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15 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

That's fine if that is what you believe. It is objectively wrong, but whatever. If the democrats picked the candidate you wanted, maybe you'd vote for them. The problem is that all your other so called independents want different candidates. There is no one person the democrats could pick that are likely to engage enough independent turnout to make up for lost core dem enthusiasm by dropping their elected candidate. I'm not sure why you don't grasp that. The other independents are not you. 

But, sure, if you want to destroy the country in a tantrum because *checks notes* Biden is old, then obviously you're the type of mature voter this country needs. 

Every “I’m a cold, rational, independent voter who likes to actually think about things instead of just join a team” dipshit has an IQ of 85.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, F250 said:

How do these people remember to breathe?

pretty sure forgetting to breathe is responsible for her condition

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Posted
Just now, Dahobbs said:

That's fine if that is what you believe. It is objectively wrong, but whatever. If the democrats picked the candidate you wanted, maybe you'd vote for them. The problem is that all your other so called independents want different candidates. There is no one person the democrats could pick that are likely to engage enough independent turnout to make up for lost core dem enthusiasm by dropping their elected candidate. I'm not sure why you don't grasp that. The other independents are not you. 

But, sure, if you want to destroy the country in a tantrum because *checks notes* Biden is old, then obviously you're the type of mature voter this country needs. 

I'm curious.  What % of Democrats do you think are voting specifically FOR Biden, and not just AGAINST Trump?

IE what portion of the Democratic voters would choose not to vote, or vote Trump, if Biden were no longer the nominee?

And your last sentence is enigmatic of the Democratic Party... trying to appeal to logic rather than emotion.  Bold strategy with the country's future on the line, but what the heck, let's roll the dice and see what happens.

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Just now, wildcat09 said:

Every “I’m a cold, rational, independent voter who likes to actually think about things instead of just join a team” dipshit has an IQ of 85.

Betty Cooper Lol GIF by Lili Reinhart

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Posted

Sir, what gives you the right to have an opinion on the machinations of the Democratic party? You are not even a member!

I however am a member and my opinion also means nothing like yours. So there is that.

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The egg on alot of your faces tonight is great and the backpedaling on Biden as a nominee will turn into meandering and whispers. A lot of you just wasted two weeks of your life, and until you recognize that and agree with me you are Republicans until then. See how fun it is to read shit like that?

His entire presidency has been about riding waves of momentum and creating your own. From the lingering “recession is right around the corner” bullshit in inflation threads to “incoming red wave” bullshit in midterm threads to the immigration battle that ended with the Trump’s bullshit telling his minions to vote against the strongest bill they’ve seen against. More individual Americans are affected by loan forgiveness than independents wanting credit and attention. Capturing the biggest voter share you can from 2020 is key and the tossup states Biden won expanded those rights.

Biden can repeat his attack on Trump 3x a day to a question about his favorite color and it will always be the right move. 

 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, DixonHur said:

I'm curious.  What % of Democrats do you think are voting specifically FOR Biden, and not just AGAINST Trump?

IE what portion of the Democratic voters would choose not to vote, or vote Trump, if Biden were no longer the nominee?

And your last sentence is enigmatic of the Democratic Party... trying to appeal to logic rather than emotion.  Bold strategy with the country's future on the line, but what the heck, let's roll the dice and see what happens.

That last paragraph is perplexing. You literally just posted that independents like yourself (which btw I count as) "tend to look at things in unemotional and practical terms." And yet your argument now is that the democratic candidate should be appealing to emotion. You're yoyoing back fourth demonstrates my point: trying to target fickle independent voters like you isn't something that can reliably win a significant portion of the electorate. Instead, they need to target the largest portion of their base that they can reliably move and hope that folks yourself are eventually moved to join along. 

I do agree that a vote for Biden is primarily a vote against Trump. That's precisely why I think Democrats are weakening themselves by trying to replace Biden at this stage. All it does is damper enthusiasm and create potential splits in the party. There is no other candidate the party as a whole is going to rally behind more than Biden. Trying to replace him is just going to create competing interests where some large portion of voters will feel left out and not vote. Their best bet to win the bulk of their base is to rally behind Biden. 

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Posted (edited)

Any way Biden can repeat that almost word for word every damn day for the next four months please?

Trump rapes women and has filed bankruptcy six times even including a casino! Convicted criminal. 

Say it over and over and over.

*Random question about his age*

Yeah anyways, did you hear Trump has over 100 photos with Jeffrey Epstein and rapes women?

 

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Any way Biden can repeat that almost word for word every damn day for the next four months please?

Trump rapes women and has filed bankruptcy six times even including a casino! Convicted criminal. 

Say it over and over and over.

*Random question about his age*

Yeah anyways, did you hear Trump has over 100 photos with Jeffrey Epstein and rapes women?

 

It’s baffling that wasn’t his play from the minute the debate ended (and during the debate).  Every question about him should be answered with “my opponent is a bankrupt rapist criminal fraudster who tried a coup.  Why are you asking me about my age?”

Im glad to see Biden had a good night and I am still voting for him, but what I saw during the debate was horrifying.  Gonna take a lot more evidence to convince me that he’s fit for office.  No one over 75 should be eligible to be President.

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13 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Random question about his age*

Yeah anyways, did you hear Trump has over 100 photos with Jeffrey Epstein and rapes women?

Yeah, this is how you do interviews in the post trump world. It sucks, but it’s all you ever see from the MAGA idiots and clearly it works

 

Also “you know Jake that’s a very good question. We have added millions of jobs, tamed inflation, and lowered the debt despite Trumps biggest tax cut in history for the ultra rich and record deficit spending. Plus I don’t rape, defraud the public, and try to violently overthrow our country” would probably be a good pat answer 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Any way Biden can repeat that almost word for word every damn day for the next four months pleas

With a teleprompter, yes.

Off the cuff, no.

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Just now, Incredulity said:

This whole thread?

George Clooney?

Morning Joe?

”Dozens of Democratic Congressional representatives”?-CBS news

Oh right so no one who matters. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

This whole thread?

George Clooney?

Morning Joe?

”Dozens of Democratic Congressional representatives”?-CBS news

You're voting for Trump anyway. 

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Is there any real basis for the “Trump is a rapist” charge beyond the E. Jean Carroll civil lawsuit that found him liable on the sexual assault claims but not on rape?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

The “Katie Johnson” story seems to go nowhere when you look into it, as Snopes did when it all first came up in 2016.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

This woman who wrote a book on Epstein says there was nothing new about Trump in the recently released Epstein files:

I mean, no question he has the morals of an alley cat, but is there an actual rape somewhere that has been proven? If not that would probably explain the media not reporting this allegation, for fear of a libel suit. 

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1 minute ago, Duane Moore said:

Is there any real basis for the “Trump is a rapist” charge beyond the E. Jean Carroll civil lawsuit that found him liable on the sexual assault claims but not on rape?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

The “Katie Johnson” story seems to go nowhere when you look into it, as Snopes did when it all first came up in 2016.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

This woman who wrote a book on Epstein says there was nothing new about Trump in the recently released Epstein files:

I mean, no question he has the morals of an alley cat, but is there an actual rape somewhere that has been proven? If not that would probably explain the media not reporting this allegation, for fear of a libel suit. 

Dude he is a predator rapist piece of shit. He raped stormy too. The whole thing is so obvious and Trump doesn't need any legal benefit of the doubt. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

This whole thread?

George Clooney?

Morning Joe?

”Dozens of Democratic Congressional representatives”?-CBS news

 

56 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

You're voting for Trump anyway. 

*Voting for a child rapist

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10 minutes ago, immamac said:

Dude he is a predator rapist piece of shit. He raped stormy too. The whole thing is so obvious and Trump doesn't need any legal benefit of the doubt. 

Didn't Stormy testify that it was consensual? I mean ya fuck Trump/ he's a POS/ etc but am I misremembering that?

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Just now, Loch Ness Monster said:

Evangelical Christians loving a rapist wasn't on my bingo card when I was a kid. My how times change. Or maybe I just got older.

I mean, have you seen the evangelical child rape thread in DT? They fuckin LOVE and protect rapists on the reg

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11 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Hillary ran a shitty campaign and treated him with kid gloves because she was afraid of offending his supporters.

Hillary thought she was a shoe in and the chosen one. Ran a lazy campaign and didn’t listen to her advisors telling her about Wisconsin etc

Her loss is 100% on her. She was never convinced Trump was a real threat. 

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Just now, Captainant said:

I mean, have you seen the evangelical child rape thread in DT? They fuckin LOVE and protect rapists on the reg

I have to vote for the child rapist to protect the children from the real child rapists  

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5 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Her loss is 100% on her. She was never convinced Trump was a real threat. 

It’s on her and the party, including the Obama administration that left her twisting in the wind with the Russian interference.

 Obama administration didn’t want to be seen as putting their thumb on the scale, decided to do nothing, thought Hillary would win anyway… Mistakes were made.

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26 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Is there any real basis for the “Trump is a rapist” charge beyond the E. Jean Carroll civil lawsuit that found him liable on the sexual assault claims but not on rape?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

The “Katie Johnson” story seems to go nowhere when you look into it, as Snopes did when it all first came up in 2016.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

This woman who wrote a book on Epstein says there was nothing new about Trump in the recently released Epstein files:

I mean, no question he has the morals of an alley cat, but is there an actual rape somewhere that has been proven? If not that would probably explain the media not reporting this allegation, for fear of a libel suit. 

Literally a key part of the Carroll jean case is the finding by the Court that it was substantially true that Trump raped her. That is why Trump was liable for denying the rape. But sure, if you ignore all the rape, there was no rape. 

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4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Literally a key part of the Carroll jean case is the finding by the Court that it was substantially true that Trump raped her. That is why Trump was liable for denying the rape. But sure, if you ignore all the rape, there was no rape. 

The part of Biden’s speech where he said Trump was a rapist was a direct quote from the judge in the lawsuit Trump lost.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, MrBig said:

The part of Biden’s speech where he said Trump was a rapist was a direct quote from the judge in the lawsuit Trump lost.

This. "But was it rape-rape?" Jesus, people.  🙄

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53 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Is there any real basis for the “Trump is a rapist” charge beyond the E. Jean Carroll civil lawsuit that found him liable on the sexual assault claims but not on rape?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

The “Katie Johnson” story seems to go nowhere when you look into it, as Snopes did when it all first came up in 2016.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

This woman who wrote a book on Epstein says there was nothing new about Trump in the recently released Epstein files:

I mean, no question he has the morals of an alley cat, but is there an actual rape somewhere that has been proven? If not that would probably explain the media not reporting this allegation, for fear of a libel suit. 

The Katie Johnson case was dropped due a combination of death threats and a payoff/NDA. 

Are you not paying attention?

Posted
3 minutes ago, elfenix said:

was it legitimate rape? because a woman's body has a way of shutting that down

They definitely can't get pregnant by being raped.  I heard it.

Posted
24 minutes ago, speed817 said:

 

 

Apple News is pushing the Biden is “just hanging on by his fingertips to the nomination” narrative. I think these assholes know they need to get on board, but there’s a stirring up shit for the clicks.



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