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9 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Clinton signed NAFTA

definitely right of Trump on trade/free markets

I'm disappointed that Biden has continued a lot of Trump's fuckery in that area

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  

Sure. But that’s a given. It’s a given that much of America is stupid, racist, lost and lost likely all three. But at the end of the day when the margin is people who should know better, often do know better, but won’t hold their noses then fuck them. 

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35 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Two things:

1. Rove lives in Austin now?

2. I guess he's taking lessons from Katie Porter now with that whiteboard.

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

It's opposite day man

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

 

These people are like stepping in dog shit.

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

In that context, it would seem most of the big names being floated for Harris' VP carry very little risk, no?

Here’s an interesting stat from GE Morris.  Kinda underscores the Shapiro as obvious choice thing.

small sample size though

 

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Clinton’s also a product of his upbringing and era. Clinton also made changes, which turned out to be quite damaging, to allow every American to have a home. He attempted to pass universal healthcare. Jobs and homelessness were at record levels. He was huge for higher and lower education, and he cut taxes on low incomes. Yeah, he was basically Reagan. GTFO. 

I didn’t say he was Reagan. I said one rightwing pundit compared him favorably to Reagan. 

My point is Clinton was right of center. He signed a lot of ridiculously regressive shit that caused a lot of harm to minorities and the working class. He had some progressive views, certainly. But he was right of center on balance. 

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  

"Cool with genocide" seems more than a tad of a stretch. He, like the majority of Israelis, has strongly criticized Netanyahu. Shapiro's problems with the far left are because he also criticized them as racist (I think it was by comparing them to the KKK) and stopped legal protests. 

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They don’t get a free pass. But principled left wing voters who can’t bring themselves to vote for a dude who apparently is cool with genocide (if, for example, Shapiro gets the nod) would bear far less blame for a hypothetical Trump win than the actual fascists who vote for Trump.  
Not in this election. A vote for anyone other than Harris is a vote for Trump.
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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sure. But that’s a given. It’s a given that much of America is stupid, racist, lost and lost likely all three. But at the end of the day when the margin is people who should know better, often do know better, but won’t hold their noses then fuck them. 

Here’s a different perspective: fuck the people who demand left wing votes while supporting right wing / inhumane shit. 

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Just now, BrickHorn said:

I didn’t say he was Reagan. I said one rightwing pundit compared him favorably to Reagan. 

My point is Clinton was right of center. He signed a lot of ridiculously regressive shit that caused a lot of harm to minorities and the working class. He had some progressive views, certainly. But he was right of center on balance. 

As someone who was raised as a republican, and registered as one until 2016, I just flat out do not agree with this at all. 

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

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Harris isn't Black. Pete isn't Gay. Tucker, Donald, JD and the other hypocritical fucktards aren't weird. Seems like it's their theme. 

 

Tucker:  Pete's not gay. I offered to suck his dick but he refused...  NOT GAY!!! 

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1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

My point is Clinton was right of center.

 

9 minutes ago, G650 said:

Not being a progressive reformer ≠ right wing

5 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Yes. That sarcastic comment was the main point of my post. Good job, G650’s brain.

 

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Just now, BrickHorn said:

Here’s a different perspective: fuck the people who demand left wing votes while supporting right wing / inhumane shit. 

Or, fuck the people will sit out and hand an election to someone who will advocate for even worse inhumane shit abroad, and also implement inhumane shit at a massive scale here in the United States!

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Just now, Chopper said:

"Cool with genocide" seems more than a tad of a stretch. He, like the majority of Israelis, has strongly criticized Netanyahu. Shapiro's problems with the far left are because he also criticized them as racist (I think it was by comparing them to the KKK) and stopped legal protests. 

Fair enough. But also legit for American progressives to recoil at an authoritarian governor shutting down protests. 

But I guess it will be the far left’s fault for not supporting the Democratic establishment’s preferred authoritarian asshole. Or something.

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17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Musk suspended the White Dudes for Harris twitter and now suspended the Progressives for Harris one. They were going to have a zoom with Sanders and Warren. 

How long until the internet fires up 100k bots to turn x into a scat porn site? I wish I knew how to do it and I would gladly help.  

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Shapiro won by 14 points. But Mastriano was a historically bad R candidate. 

 

1 hour ago, Firemans4Horn said:


 

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You're right, I was thinking about someone else, margin wise. He still sucks.

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11 minutes ago, dcbc said:

No, I like where this is headed.  Let's lean into it:

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Resulting in:

 

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Can someone please explain to me why the fuck everyone is posting yarns? They don't work half the time. 

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

As someone who was raised as a republican, and registered as one until 2016, I just flat out do not agree with this at all. 

Ah, okay. This is starting to make sense. You were awash in Republican propaganda while Clinton was in office, and the memory of GOP vitriol at the time is clouding your hindsight judgment. 

The Republicans hated Clinton for reasons, even though Clinton passed numerous regressive pieces of legislation. Politics is weird that way. Opinions are often irrational and counterproductive.

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14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

He comes across as shallow and insincere.  Sorry I insulted your bro.

I'm not insulted, just surprised. He is a politician, I assume everything is to some degree insincere. But I had a very different response to it, so as I said, surprising. 

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6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Why does that matter? Supreme Court in- annex them. 

I doubt it ever really mattered in the sense that it was changing anybody's vote, but it pissed off a lot of the gun nuts at the time, and was something I've seen brought up occasionally over the years as evidence that Trump was actually "weak" on protecting the 2A. Since the SC overturned the ban a few months ago, I'm sure MAGA is largely going to pretend it never happened, but it was a grievance the gun worshippers had with him for several years.

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

I'm not insulted, just surprised. He is a politician, I assume everything is to some degree insincere. But I had a very different response to it, so as I said, surprising. 

For me it was a lot of the polit-speak.  "Talking at instead of talking to".  I mean, that's the same thing.  It's like the commentators who loudly enunciate "the National Football League" (no doubt due to instructions on high).  It's just meaningless fluff, and he had a lot of it.  

I think it's just a reaction to Walz speaking like a normal dude at a bar.  THAT'S refreshing.

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40 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Real talk: Vance being fucking tired of his kid yammering about stupid Pokemon shit and maybe losing it a bit and telling his kid to stop yammering about Pikachu is maybe the most human and empathetic thing I've heard about Vance.

Seriously, fellow dads.....tell me you never had such a moment with one of your kids, and I'll tell you you're a fucking liar.

I don't think that moment makes Vance shitty.  It makes him real and human.  Yeah, it's a shitty thing to do (you really SHOULDN'T lose it with your kid and tell them to STFU....but you probably also SHOULDN'T drink 14 cheap beers and piss off a public balcony while singing George Strait tunes at the top of your lungs, but man...let he who is without sin throw the first stone, amirite?)...but it's real.

Maybe I have, maybe I haven’t, but I wouldn’t tell that story to the fucking press.

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10 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

 

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If you’re going to misrepresent which part of my post you quoted, maybe do it in a way that makes your point stronger instead of just even more nonsensical. 

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17 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

My point is Clinton was right of center. He signed a lot of ridiculously regressive shit that caused a lot of harm to minorities and the working class. He had some progressive views, certainly. But he was right of center on balance. 

This reminded me of an interview years ago with Buttigieg, where he said Republicans did such an effective job of moving this country right in the 70's/80's that Bill Clinton had historically conservative views as a Democratic President. 

EDIT: Found it and timestamped

 

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

I guarantee I’m right of you. I just know how to read a room


Is it a room in Mark Zuckerberg’s idea of the metaverse? It’s not reality.

 

the Dems have about 8 great VP candidates. Shapiro is 1 of them. 

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

This reminded me of an interview years ago with Buttigieg, where he said Republicans did such an effective job of moving this country right in the 70's/80's that Bill Clinton had historically conservative views as a Democratic President. 

 

He’s right and the rightward shift of the Clinton-era Dems is a big reason why the working class was just waiting for an asshole like Trump to come along and promise them a return to the glory days.

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9 minutes ago, immamac said:

Can someone please explain to me why the fuck everyone is posting yarns? They don't work half the time. 

If I ever post a yarn, sorry. I have no idea what the fuck that is. /get off my lawn!

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11 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Ah, okay. This is starting to make sense. You were awash in Republican propaganda while Clinton was in office, and the memory of GOP vitriol at the time is clouding your hindsight judgment. 

The Republicans hated Clinton for reasons, even though Clinton passed numerous regressive pieces of legislation. Politics is weird that way. Opinions are often irrational and counterproductive.

Ah, yes, let’s get mildly insulting in some vaguely ad hominem attack and paint me as thoughtless and irrational. The true sign of someone making a point based on the merits of their position. 
 

It sounds to me like Clinton ended up governing for all, not just his party. Although for those laws to pass they had to get voted to his desk. Governing for all, what a novel concept. 
 

I’ll try to loop this back. Trump supporters are lost and/or mentally ill. You admit that you’ve made practical choices, so you understand the Get On The Bus theory of politics. Great. 
 

I can’t reason with the lost or mentally ill. Write them off. So considering the stakes, if I can’t convince a far left progressive to vote for the less horrific candidate, even if it makes them sick in their tum tums, I guess they qualify as lost or mentally ill. Which, yeah, I blame them. 

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5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Ah, yes, let’s get mildly insulting in some vaguely ad hominem attack and to paint me as thoughtless an irrational. The true sign of someone making a point based on the merits of their position. 

Relax. You’re the one who introduced your personal political history to justify your estimation of Clinton’s politics. I was just responding to that.

You’re a smart dude. If you haven’t done so, read up on Clinton’s record and reconsider whatever views you developed decades ago about his place on the political spectrum. There was a time when I thought he was a liberal hippy, too.

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9 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


Is it a room in Mark Zuckerberg’s idea of the metaverse? It’s not reality.

 

the Dems have about 8 great VP candidates. Shapiro is 1 of them. 

Please articulate what is great about Josh Shapiro.

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9 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


Is it a room in Mark Zuckerberg’s idea of the metaverse? It’s not reality.

 

the Dems have about 8 great VP candidates. Shapiro is 1 of them. 

It’s not reality where a mid 6 figure payout gets coupled with an NDA for allegations of sexual harassment in the post Weinstein / Cosby era, with Trump paying Stormy Daniels and having her sign an NDA?

 

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8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Trump will make a huge deal out of this and the fact that he’s been convicted of sexual assault will be lost on his followers and most of the media. 

Yep. We have the moral high ground. Do not concede it with a scandal, it will be twisted into something really bad for Dems 

Edit; because as we all know in politics, once you have to explain it, you’ve already lost the issue 

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1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

Here’s a different perspective: fuck the people who demand left wing votes while supporting right wing / inhumane shit. 

Most people think the people who stay home on election day look like this:

Spoiler

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But they actually look like this, and they are all around us just living their lives:

Spoiler

 

 

While we all, or most of us, started at UT, we can't change everything about the world.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/29/politics/turnout-2024-election-analysis/index.html

https://abcnews.go.com/538/vote-back-trump/story?id=109090626

 

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Just now, Brian Fantana said:

Please articulate what is great about Josh Shapiro.


I’ll start slow. Because until 5 minutes ago you thought he won by half a point. 
 

1. Young (We’re Never Going Back)

2. 61% approval rating in Pennsylvania

3. Smart and well spoken and will rip JD Vance to shreds

4.  Electoral college

5. Centrist politics; good counter balance to attacks on Kamala and good fit for Pennsylvania 

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4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Please articulate what is great about Josh Shapiro.

I think some people remember the Obama days very fondly so they find Shapiro's cadence soothing. I don't think he will have much appeal outside PA and he's got that MeToo problem

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7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

It’s not reality where a mid 6 figure payout gets coupled with an NDA for allegations of sexual harassment in the post Weinstein / Cosby era, with Trump paying Stormy Daniels and having her sign an NDA?

 


Josh Shapiro sexually assaulted someone and made them sign an NDA?

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Shapiro won by 14 points. But Mastriano was a historically bad R candidate. 

He was also Trump’s hand picked historically bad candidate. That would carry weight I think with voters with that fresh in their mind.

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

"Comics for Kamala" zoom call announced

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I like the Tom Arnold selection as it offsets the Roseanne fans that support Trump, chess not checkers.

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