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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Marist with new fav/unfav numbers (no topline yet) with change since July 22

Harris -1 (+1) with 5% undecided
Trump -8 (-3) with 2% undecided
Vance -8 (-6) with 22% undecided
Walz +4 (n/a) with 70% undecided

Translate that for me. Harris has gotten less favorable, and Trupm has gotten way less favorable, am I reading that right?

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Translate that for me. Harris has gotten less favorable, and Trupm has gotten way less favorable, am I reading that right?

Harris went from -2 to -1. Trump and Vance got worse. 

Just now, Js1 said:

Harris went from -2 to -1. Trump and Vance got worse. 

But does it also say that fewer people find trump and vance unfavorable? Who are these people? 

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Translate that for me. Harris has gotten less favorable, and Trupm has gotten way less favorable, am I reading that right?

Harris is still net unfavorable, but has improved slightly. Trump and Vance have both moved significantly down and are viewed less favorably than Harris. Walz is viewed favorably and there’s not a baseline from which to determine movement yet.

Also, the jury is still largely out on the VP candidates, as indicated by the substantial “undecided” responses.

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Just now, 'stache said:

But does it also say that fewer people find trump and vance unfavorable? Who are these people? 

no, the parenthesis is the delta from last one

1 hour ago, NorthLoop said:

I'm so glad we have 3 threads for this. My head would've exploded if we put it all in one place. 

I dunno the obsession to be the opposite of Texags is literally the most insecure thing on this site, I can read other threads.

1 minute ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

no, the parenthesis is the delta from last one

Right. Minus sign means trending less favorable. 

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38 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Walz sounds Jewish 

A lot of Midwestern Lutherans like Walz and myself come from families that converted and left the old country. 

This goes so Hard, R’s have no fucking idea !!!

 

 

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1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:


 

Barack Obama Mic Drop GIF

Putt, if it says Parody anywhere on the screen, it's a fake. You're the Prong Horn of leftists. 

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Putt, if it says Parody anywhere on the screen, it's a fake. You're the Prong Horn of leftists. 


it’s humor 😂😂

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I doubt he tweeted that on Aug 60th though. 

 

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5 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

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Sad that this is what passes for politics these days. 
 

What infractions sir?

FIND some. /sobel

19 minutes ago, linux said:

I dunno the obsession to be the opposite of Texags is literally the most insecure thing on this site, I can read other threads.

Well that's certainly a take. 

9 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

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They are just mailing it in at this point.

52 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Then the conservative christians should be happy as that is what they want. Just don’t call their god allah and its same same. 

Bingo.  I don't see why they freak out so much about Sharia Law.  They want a theocracy.  It's right here on their Favor order form.  Sorry they didn't sufficiently specify what brand.  Maybe, must maybe, you shouldn't fucking order a theocracy for our democratic motherfucking republic, you giant pieces of christofascist shit.

7 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I doubt he tweeted that on Aug 60th though. 

But....he WILL.  I can count, man....that's only 54 days away!

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Sad that this is what passes for politics these days. 
 

What infractions sir?

FIND some. /sobel

100% that vibe from these pathetic pieces of shit.

We have a choice between being led by a bunch of Sobels, or a Dick Winters crew.  It's that kind of divide.

Meanwhile, in a seemingly alternate universe...

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But, alas, not far enough away...

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

 

That thread is how I found my way to Shaggy/Surly. Still laugh my ass off when it comes up.

Same here. 

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

3 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

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3 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

She's not losing Pennsylvania.

Serious question. Has there been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Serious question. Has their been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

Trump converted in his mind

2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Serious question. Has their been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

No, no Jewish President or Vice President in American history.  

 

Henry Kissinger was probably the GOP’s highest ranking Jew

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

She's not losing Pennsylvania.

This.  Dems have only lost PA once since 1984.  If she can't win PA on her own, she's not winning overall.  She's winning PA.

6 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

This would be true if Shapiro was reluctant to help her win his state. He's already said he'll be campaigning for her anytime she's in the state. It's pretty simple for him to say, if you voted for me, you need to vote for Kamala-Walz over Trump-Vance. And it can be framed plenty of ways to make her an anti-Semite. She's married to a Jewish man. She met with Bibi when he came over to stump for Trump. 

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4 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Serious question. Has their been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

Unless you Founding Father deists and other quiet atheists/agnostics, I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

It’s time to realize that conventional wisdom has proven to be mostly dogshit when it comes to national politics over the last 20-50 years or so. 

Serious question. Has there been a Republican Prez or VP nominee who was Jewish ever in modern times?  Know the Ds had Liebermann. 

Neither party has a Jewish person on the ticket. Advantage: GOP.
35 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

You are correct that the most superficial and naïve analysis would lead to this conclusion. The problem is that the assumptions are all wrong. Here are some of the completely incorrect assumptions you're basing this on. 

1. Shapiro VP with Walz as a campaign surrogate helps win Pennsylvania more than Walz VP with Shapiro as a campaign surrogate. 

2. The Jewish angle will have any traction beyond internet morons.

Hope that helps.

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Now I know she made the right call since throwing the antisemitism thing out there is just a MAGA talking point

The Republican Party has no right to lecture anyone on antisemitism 

So as a party you’ve never nominated a Jew but that’s gonna be a line of attack on the party who has at least once historically and the top of that ticket is married to one. 
 

got it. 
 

just the fucking dumbest people pandering to the dumbest people. 

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Shit’s not hard.

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2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Unless you Founding Father deists and other quiet atheists/agnostics, I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

It's pretty clear with the benefit of historical hindsight that Jefferson was a mutt of Deist/Agnostic/Atheist.  Other than some church appearances in a public capacity, really no record of him exist as a Christian of any ilk.  

That's about as close as we have had in this country.  Trump is not a Christian but he tries to play one on TV.  Since compulsory chapel at Penn, guy spends 50 years in New York, home to 4000 Christian houses of worship.  No record of him belonging to any of them at any point between college and running for President.  Other than weddings and funerals, nobody ever once saw him in a house of worship at any time over a half-century.  

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

It's pretty clear with the benefit of historical hindsight that Jefferson was a mutt of Deist/Agnostic/Atheist.  Other than some church appearances in a public capacity, really no record of him exist as a Christian of any ilk.  

Didn’t Jefferson rewrite the Bible or something where he took all the magic out of it.  Like no Virgin Mary, no miracle working, no resurrection 

Yes, in part.  That was his "Deism" footprint he left behind as a lesson to the nation he helped build.  Flawed as he was, he knew how things could go sideways in a hurry with this experiment still in its infancy.  

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2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Didn’t Jefferson rewrite the Bible or something where he took all the magic out of it.  Like no Virgin Mary, no miracle working, no resurrection 

Bet he left the sex with slaves in though. 

Just drove through Philly where I saw 3 big Trump billboards along I-95, the best being something like "Trump - Will Unite America".  Bro can't even unite his own party.

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:


 

Barack Obama Mic Drop GIF

 

1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I doubt he tweeted that on Aug 60th though. 

 

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Putt, if it says Parody anywhere on the screen, it's a fake. You're the Prong Horn of leftists. 

 

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:


it’s humor 😂😂

Well, it's humorous that you thought Tim_Balz was his offical twitter account, sure. 

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