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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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3 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Daily Georgia EV data dump takeaways:

1.  2.369 million votes now cast

2. Women out pace men by 272k or 55.5% to 44%  (.4% growth from yesterday)

3.  2020 day of voters represent 149k or 6.3% of the total (.3% bump from yesterday)

4.  2020 non voters are 387k, young voters 18 - 29 outpace old ones 65+ by 35k

A little something different today, turn out by Democratic Congressional districts:

GA 2- 138k 25.6%

GA 4 - 138k 26.5%

GA 5 - 162k 26.1%

GA 6 - 182k 36.8%

GA 13 - 167k 27.3%

 

 

what's normal turnout for those districts (for a pres election year)

2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I don't acccept the premise that they were in fact protecting corporate interests. I think there were and are specific interests associated with specific people that benefitted, and I'm sure to some people that looks like being pro-business or pro-capitalism, but it's not. 

Well, this right here. I don't think these two sentences necessarily go together. Corporate interests do not equal pro business and pro capitalism. In fact, many times they are opposed.

There's been a huge shift in who's interests are being protect here. You obviously disagree and that is fine, but to me it's clear as day. You seem to be more focused on the outcome vis a vis other classes, but that's not what I'm talking about.

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31 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

WaPo...one of the most political newspapers, and one of the last few that really does engaged political reporting...isn't going to endorse. 

The media apparatus is so fucking broken. I don't konw why this fucking me me hard, but I feel like I just got punched in the gut. Just sad AF. 

For Profit news needs to fucking end. 

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

I really hope the outcome of this election ends the marriage between polling and the mainstream media.

But I know better.

Someone with a national platform who understands just a little math (Mark Cuban?) is going to have to embarrass the NYT by asking how they can extrapolate from a biased 2.5% response rate to a voting population.

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

what's normal turnout for those districts (for a pres election year)

Districts got redrawn after 2020 so might be harder to figure that out 

Newspapers need to die. Worthless spineless hacks beholden to revenue and shareholder value rather than journalism. 

13 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Ha, thanks.  I have no urge to hit you.  But same.  Except I don't drink.  Topo or club soda with lime.

California sober?  (Sorry, the wife and I just binged Nobody Wants This and that term tickled me).

 

2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Newspapers need to die. Worthless spineless hacks beholden to revenue and shareholder value rather than journalism. 

Dying industries do irrational things to hold on as long as possible.  They’re usually too late to pivot to whatever is replacing them to gain market share, so they suppress it as long as possible.

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38 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

"Democracy dies in darkness."

3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Newspapers need to die. Worthless spineless hacks beholden to revenue and shareholder value rather than journalism. 

That makes sense, but they're getting replaced with YouTube videos and TikTok's which are even worse.

25 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

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stephen miller is ready to deport as many naturalized muslim citizens as he can chase down 

all the imans for sure 

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30 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

I'll have what this guy is having, unless its Chili's. 

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51 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

As someone who a Boy Scout Leader for decades

The Alec Baldwin And Adam Sandler SNL Sketch That Had Viewers Turning Off  The TV In Discomfort

33 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I'll have what this guy is having, unless its Chili's. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, texastough said:

The clip was posted earlier -- When Hannity started spewing the bullshit about Trump's knowledge and hours long in-depth conversations with him about complex topics, Smith should have jumped in with "About WHAT? About ELECTROCUTION SHARKS? About CANCER WINDMILLS? About MEN'S JUNK????

Actually, the face he made was perfect.

52 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Texas might shift, or be close to it, if Harris county turned out like the other big counties do. They’ll just never be at Travis County margins. 56% for the Dems in 2020 - now imagine if they got 65% like Dallas county

Travis County represent.  And damn I love the Hill Country but damn I hate the Hill Country.

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This sounds like a MAGA dipshit got asked to put on a jacket and refused so he assaulted a poll worker

 

 

SAN ANTONIO – An elections clerk was assaulted during an incident at a polling location, according to Bexar County Elections Administrator Jacque Callanen.

Elections officials confirmed the assault happened at the Johnston Branch Library at 6307 Sun Valley Drive, one of 51 polling locations open during the early voting period in Bexar County.

Details on what led to the assault were not released by Callanen during a news conference on Friday morning. She said the investigation is ongoing.

The assault happened on Thursday evening, and the clerk received treatment by Emergency Medical Services at the location before the clerk was released, Callanen said.

On Thursday, 896 ballots were cast at the site. Callanen said the polling location is open Friday for early voting.

Early voting started on Monday, and so far, 191,362 votes have been cast in Bexar County, according to numbers from the Bexar County elections office.

On Thursday, the fourth day of early voting, Bexar County polling locations had the highest number of ballots cast so far: 48,653 ballots cast.

Callanen said “our poll sites are safe” and asked people to pack patience and be prepared.

During a news conference on Thursday, Callanen reminded voters that they cannot wear campaign paraphernalia to the voting booth, such as a shirt, hat, button, or swag.

She said some of the election judges will take jackets to polling sites for voters to wear in case people are wearing a shirt that features a particular candidate. Callanen said that some voters will be asked to go to the bathroom and turn the shirt inside out or even tape a sample ballot to the front of their shirt.

“You may see some voters that aren’t happy ... but we need to remain within the law so that no one is intimidated and everyone can come and vote freely,” Callanen said.

She also said that voters cannot discuss political preferences while waiting in line to vote.

Registered voters in Bexar County can vote at any polling site during the early voting period and Election Day. Early voting ends Nov. 1, and Election Day is Nov. 5.

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

PA Firewall: 371k (D/R) and 423.5 with idies

Also, because a lot of people here take this dude as gospel:

Carville: 3 Reasons Why Harris Wins

Small jump from yesterday, no? Hopefully there is a big dump on Monday 

48 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Not that anyone who reads WaPo needs the editorial page to tell who to vote for, but this is weak and stupid. They pissed off 85% of their readership.

Bezos is acting like he's okay with the paper being a loss leader.

46 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

As someone who a Boy Scout Leader for decades I have a lot of conservative leaning friends.   And the thing I have been grappling with since 2016 is that a lot of them are intelligent and successful…and yet they believe all of the Maga shit Trump/Fox spews even though it’s clearly false and bullshit.

So basically, they are gullible.  I always thought that intelligence was an antidote to gullibility, but it seems they are two distinct species of mental abilities.   With no rational explanation, I’ve finally come to conclude that “gullible” is simply choosing to believe that which you want to believe for your own reasons.   

it really defies explanation.

I think it boils down to the difference between reason and emotion. Our rational capacity is deliberative. It makes decisions based on reasoned analysis of facts.

But it’s slow and rational choices aren’t always good for the real driver of human decision-making (gene propagation). So we also have things like instinct and emotions, which short-circuit our decision making process so that we don’t fuck up by deliberating too long. “Oh, a wife and kids will prevent you from reaching your financial goals on your preferred time table? Too bad. She’s ineffably hot and your balls are shutting down your brain for the next several minutes to make sure your DNA survives you and your smart little plans.” 

Every single brilliant mind is vulnerable to dumbass emotion. We’re human beings, not computers. Politicians appeal to emotion because it’s more powerful than reason. Some of us insist on thinking through policy at a rational level, but emotion is inevitable. (Even many policies we liberals believe are rational are only so in the sense that they tend to favor outcomes that we emotionally prefer.)  

My guess is that your friends indulge their emotional reactions to political issues, responding to things like fear, resentment, aggrievement, etc. They could think through issues logically, but it’s easier to go with their gut feeling. And they probably get a dopamine hit from it, to boot.

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13 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Newspapers need to die. Worthless spineless hacks beholden to revenue and shareholder value rather than journalism. 

They're on their way. I know very few people still in the business but I will tell you that the rank-and-file still in the trenches are every bit the chaser of truth that they've always been. Yes, there are some bad apples in every bunch. The struggle between the ad side and the news side was always real. Publishers tended to be rich folks who galavanted around town with other rich people doing Republican things. The difference is the Republicanism has changed. It's gotten ugly. It's gotten cruel.

I've been saying this since shortly after Trump took office in 2017. His worst lasting legacy -- if he doesn't win re-election and go all fascist on us, destroy American Democracy, etc -- is he has absolutely destroyed any and all trust in legacy media. It's just gone like a fart in the wind. "Fake news" has been beaten into our lexicon and it ain't likely going away in my lifetime. Legacy media was probably our only hope to defeat the ridiculousness that passes as "truth" these days. The shit that is put out there that the GQP/MAGAts believe is simply astounding. (Yes, foreign bad actors are creating a lot of the nonsense but it spreads as gospel by the American moron.)

18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Districts got redrawn after 2020 so might be harder to figure that out 

This is correct, but we do have 2020 voting data on the areas in question.  It ranges a bit, from about 525k to 630k of registered voters.  As to understanding this data, it's something I've hardly looked at of yet (I've been mainly focused on stronghold areas, etc.)  I'll look at taking a deeper dive over the weekend.  I'm particularly interested in GA 7 (R) Rich McCormick (he's a psychopath maga dentist who may or may not have had an affair with MTG).  In 2020 that was an R+11 district.  I don't think we beat him, unfortunately, but I do think it tightens significantly, which would be telling.  

8 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Small jump from yesterday, no? Hopefully there is a big dump on Monday 

Yeah, end of week mail slowdown. I expect Monday to be a big jump for Friday-Sat-Sunday 

47 minutes ago, G650 said:

Uh, other than those trifling things like tariffs? I would characterize that as earthshaking change for the Republican party. Not even throwing details like pulling us out of, you know, like NAFTA and shit.

We went through the looking glass when Trump attacked Obama/Hillary on the TPP.  And the Ds learned their lesson I guess as Biden did fuckall to walk back any Trump tariffs.  Harris has rightfully attacked Trump a little bit here near the end on the insanity of his latest tariff propsals but the idea of free trade is pretty dead in American politics.

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Just cast my vote for the non-fascists. Disappointingly, but not surprisingly, I was the only person under the age of 30 there. 

11 minutes ago, quigley said:

Bezos is acting like he's okay with the paper being a loss leader.

Was that in doubt?

6 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

Just cast my vote for the non-fascists. Disappointingly, but not surprisingly, I was the only person under the age of 30 there. 

Probably the only one here too. We'll, you've got Helo for company, I guess.

Just now, Pancho said:

 

Herding. Would rather it be 50/50 and then be like “well it was a close race and it could have gone either way!!”

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

So the people losing their shit about registrations were bamboozled by fraud 

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Over an hour wait in line but I put my "fuck you" to team Trump

22 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Don't worry gang! Trump is making plans to attend Ohio St at Penn St football game! 

 

Meteor!!

 

Also acceptable: Giant Sinkhole!!

 

 

There is a sign next to the stage at the upcoming Dotard Hate Rally that just says "Deport Illegals Now". 

I know running on hate and fear isn't anything new, but they used to disguise it a little better. If the election had a few more months in it we might get to a point where we see "Get Rid of All Brown people" signs. 

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Insurance company told them what their rates would be if they got a bomb threat.

 

40 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

This sounds like a MAGA dipshit got asked to put on a jacket and refused so he assaulted a poll worker

 

 

SAN ANTONIO – An elections clerk was assaulted during an incident at a polling location, according to Bexar County Elections Administrator Jacque Callanen.

Elections officials confirmed the assault happened at the Johnston Branch Library at 6307 Sun Valley Drive, one of 51 polling locations open during the early voting period in Bexar County.

Details on what led to the assault were not released by Callanen during a news conference on Friday morning. She said the investigation is ongoing.

The assault happened on Thursday evening, and the clerk received treatment by Emergency Medical Services at the location before the clerk was released, Callanen said.

On Thursday, 896 ballots were cast at the site. Callanen said the polling location is open Friday for early voting.

Early voting started on Monday, and so far, 191,362 votes have been cast in Bexar County, according to numbers from the Bexar County elections office.

On Thursday, the fourth day of early voting, Bexar County polling locations had the highest number of ballots cast so far: 48,653 ballots cast.

Callanen said “our poll sites are safe” and asked people to pack patience and be prepared.

During a news conference on Thursday, Callanen reminded voters that they cannot wear campaign paraphernalia to the voting booth, such as a shirt, hat, button, or swag.

She said some of the election judges will take jackets to polling sites for voters to wear in case people are wearing a shirt that features a particular candidate. Callanen said that some voters will be asked to go to the bathroom and turn the shirt inside out or even tape a sample ballot to the front of their shirt.

“You may see some voters that aren’t happy ... but we need to remain within the law so that no one is intimidated and everyone can come and vote freely,” Callanen said.

She also said that voters cannot discuss political preferences while waiting in line to vote.

Registered voters in Bexar County can vote at any polling site during the early voting period and Election Day. Early voting ends Nov. 1, and Election Day is Nov. 5.

My bet is he was wearing a stupid hat.

19 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Those damn Amish. Probably didn’t answer their cell phones either to clear it up. 

4 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Meteor!!

 

Also acceptable: Giant Sinkhole!!

 

 

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Those damn Amish. Probably didn’t answer their cell phones either to clear it up. 

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45 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I think it boils down to the difference between reason and emotion. Our rational capacity is deliberative. It makes decisions based on reasoned analysis of facts.

But it’s slow and rational choices aren’t always good for the real driver of human decision-making (gene propagation). So we also have things like instinct and emotions, which short-circuit our decision making process so that we don’t fuck up by deliberating too long. “Oh, a wife and kids will prevent you from reaching your financial goals on your preferred time table? Too bad. She’s ineffably hot and your balls are shutting down your brain for the next several minutes to make sure your DNA survives you and your smart little plans.” 

Every single brilliant mind is vulnerable to dumbass emotion. We’re human beings, not computers. Politicians appeal to emotion because it’s more powerful than reason. Some of us insist on thinking through policy at a rational level, but emotion is inevitable. (Even many policies we liberals believe are rational are only so in the sense that they tend to favor outcomes that we emotionally prefer.)  

My guess is that your friends indulge their emotional reactions to political issues, responding to things like fear, resentment, aggrievement, etc. They could think through issues logically, but it’s easier to go with their gut feeling. And they probably get a dopamine hit from it, to boot.

Sheldon Cooper (I know he's a fictional character)

49 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

This sounds like a MAGA dipshit got asked to put on a jacket and refused so he assaulted a poll worker

 

 

SAN ANTONIO – An elections clerk was assaulted during an incident at a polling location, according to Bexar County Elections Administrator Jacque Callanen.

Elections officials confirmed the assault happened at the Johnston Branch Library at 6307 Sun Valley Drive, one of 51 polling locations open during the early voting period in Bexar County.

Details on what led to the assault were not released by Callanen during a news conference on Friday morning. She said the investigation is ongoing.

The assault happened on Thursday evening, and the clerk received treatment by Emergency Medical Services at the location before the clerk was released, Callanen said.

On Thursday, 896 ballots were cast at the site. Callanen said the polling location is open Friday for early voting.

Early voting started on Monday, and so far, 191,362 votes have been cast in Bexar County, according to numbers from the Bexar County elections office.

On Thursday, the fourth day of early voting, Bexar County polling locations had the highest number of ballots cast so far: 48,653 ballots cast.

Callanen said “our poll sites are safe” and asked people to pack patience and be prepared.

During a news conference on Thursday, Callanen reminded voters that they cannot wear campaign paraphernalia to the voting booth, such as a shirt, hat, button, or swag.

She said some of the election judges will take jackets to polling sites for voters to wear in case people are wearing a shirt that features a particular candidate. Callanen said that some voters will be asked to go to the bathroom and turn the shirt inside out or even tape a sample ballot to the front of their shirt.

“You may see some voters that aren’t happy ... but we need to remain within the law so that no one is intimidated and everyone can come and vote freely,” Callanen said.

She also said that voters cannot discuss political preferences while waiting in line to vote.

Registered voters in Bexar County can vote at any polling site during the early voting period and Election Day. Early voting ends Nov. 1, and Election Day is Nov. 5.

While it's nice of the election judges to bring jackets for voters to put over their tshirts, f that. There should be a sign out front that says no campaign tshirt, etc., and willfully ignoring that law will result in your arrest. 

48 minutes ago, quigley said:

Bezos is acting like he's okay with the paper being a loss leader.

You’re familiar with Amazon’s business model, right?

25 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

First response:

 

14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Speaking of CNN.....WHERE THE FUCK IS JOHN KING AND HIS MAPS!

they replaced him with that italian guy

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