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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This is really cynical, and I'm here for it. 

This bleeds all the way to the far left. Engagement is all that matters. I think Sam Seder is a good man with a lot of good opinions, but the Majority Report makes their money by posting videos making fun of and "owning" right wing media/podcasters. In the end all this shit is completely worthless and unhelpful. Everything is broken. 

 

In the "we want a reasoned discussion of policy and a functioning government" sense, you're absolutely right.

But as long as nearly half the country is going to be engaged politically only by "pwnage" and sound bites, they're absolutely necessary.

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

But as long as nearly half the country is going to be engaged politically only by "pwnage" and sound bites, they're absolutely necessary.

But the right will always win that war. When a large group abandons good faith and takes on trolling as a literal and primary personality trait, you're never gonna defeat them with pwnage or soundbites. That game is rigged. We have to find another way. 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

But the right will always win that war. When a large group abandons good faith and takes on trolling as a literal and primary personality trait, you're never gonna defeat them with pwnage or soundbites. That game is rigged. We have to find another way. 

 

Maybe so, but I think there's something of a middle that's reachable that is currently coopted by the Rogan/Von brocast thing.  Bozo is right a lot of the time and I think he may be right on this, that "we" can't wholly abandon the field to these clods.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Maybe so, but I think there's something of a middle that's reachable that is currently coopted by the Rogan/Von brocast thing.  Bozo is right a lot of the time and I think he may be right on this, that "we" can't wholly abandon the field to these clods.

Agree with this! Those are good faith attempts to reach people on the right. All for it. 

 

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Unless you’re comparing them to the gay Dems you know, I think it’s the gay part and not the ex-Republican part that makes them fun to hang out with socially. Not entirely, because there’s a lot of diversity in the gay community just as in any other, but in my experience gay folks are generally pretty fun to party with. But I can’t say I’ve ever hung out with a gay Republican, current or former (afaik).

Patton Oswalt had a set where we wanted to be cast as the boring, stupid gay friend in a 2000’s RomCom
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Posted
21 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

But the right will always win that war. When a large group abandons good faith and takes on trolling as a literal and primary personality trait, you're never gonna defeat them with pwnage or soundbites. That game is rigged. We have to find another way. 

Yes and no.  

The current information ecosystem prizes nothing as highly as it does stupidity, soundbites, trolling, and outright fucking lies.  You cannot succeed WITHOUT that component.

But I agree, the opposition voting base is not as susceptible to those things across the board, so you ALSO need, you know.....facts, truth, and logical reasoning.  A one-two punch.  Which will be two wildly different messages selling the same thing, but that's marketing, people.  Like selling a luxury sportscar:

Advertisement to people who read the Economist: "A luxury ride, with rich Corinthian leather, and the acceleration that the discriminating and skilled driver prefers."

Advertisement to people who get their news from TikTok: "It makes awesome 'VROOM VROOM' noises!  It goes super fast!  Look at this video of a chick with big tits riding shotgun on a racetrack, with them tig ole biddies bouncing around!"

You can sell the same car to both audiences.*  We just have to get over ourselves and start speaking fluent VROOM VROOM AND TIG OLE BIDDIES and such, metaphorically speaking.

 

* Note: both advertising styles will work on Surly posters.

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Posted
9 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Unless you’re comparing them to the gay Dems you know, I think it’s the gay part and not the ex-Republican part that makes them fun to hang out with socially. Not entirely, because there’s a lot of diversity in the gay community just as in any other, but in my experience gay folks are generally pretty fun to party with. But I can’t say I’ve ever hung out with a gay Republican, current or former (afaik).

gay republicans are in my personal experience a miserable set of humans. therefore, they are not any fun at all.  they usually have some cash though.

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You’ve had the hat for 10 years. You’ve had the presidency for nearly 5 of the last 10. So… why isn’t America great yet?
You keep chanting “Make America Great Again.” But let’s audit what you’ve actually done with that time, money, and energy.

THE TIME DRAIN: A NATION OF WASTED HOURS

Let’s break it down:
Rallies
• Avg rally time (travel, standing in line, event): 8 hours
• Avg engaged supporter: 2 rallies/year
• Core base: ~10 million people

8 hrs × 2 rallies × 10M = 160 million hours/year

That’s:
• 18,250 years of productive human time per year
• Enough to build 50,000 houses annually
• Mentor 1.6 million teens weekly
• Earn 3.2 million college degrees

Right-Wing Media Obsession
• MAGA-heavy viewers spend 15+ hours/week watching Fox, Newsmax, OAN, etc.
(source: Nielsen + Pew Research)
• That’s 780 hours/year, or 32 full days

The average American watches much less political content (approx. 2–4 hrs/week), and consumes a mix of topics. MAGA viewers, meanwhile, are trapped in an endless loop of rage-farming.

Social Media Screaming
• MAGA users spend 25% more time on Facebook than the average American
(Meta internal data leaks show political rage is the #1 engagement driver)
• They’re significantly more likely to post, share, argue, and consume political content instead of, say, learning skills, earning money, or helping their communities.

THE MONEY DUMP: FLAGS, HATS, SCAMS, & GRIFTS

• Avg MAGA follower spends $300–$1,000/year on Trump gear, “Let’s Go Brandon” junk, political merch, livestream donations, NFT scams, Trump steaks, etc.
• Conservatively: $500/year × 10M supporters = $5 billion/year

That’s:
• 2.5 million community college scholarships
• 40 million school lunches/week
• Housing for 300,000 veterans
• Dozens of hospitals in rural America
• Or—hell—even basic infrastructure in your own towns

Instead? You bought a 3rd flag for your truck.

THE ATTENTION SUCK: MINDSPACE YOU NEVER GET BACK

You had:
• A decade to develop a skill
• A decade to help a neighbor
• A decade to serve your community
• A decade to build something

But instead, you screamed into Facebook threads, got worked up over drag queens and gas stoves, and donated to millionaires pretending to be victims.

Patriotism Isn’t Performance. It’s Purpose.

You’ve had:
• The hat
• The power
• The time
• The money

But what did you build?
The most anti-American thing you can do is waste America.
You were born with rights people die for—and you spent them on merch, memes, and messiah complexes.

It’s not the immigrants.
It’s not the media.
It’s not the deep state.
It’s what you did with the gift of living here.
Maybe instead of buying another hat, you should’ve bought:
• A shovel
• A book
• A therapy session
• A community garden kit
• A ticket to a city council meeting

Because freedom is wasted if it’s only used to scream and shop.

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Posted
1.  What the hell is Towne Lake?
2. Is it Old Gregg?

Neighborhood in Cypress off 290 and Barker Cypress. They turned their detention ponds into ski lakes and crammed $1M homes on the water. Super MAGA neighborhood. I mean, not as MAGA as mine where gov wheels did his bullshit door knocking, but still really MAGA.
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Posted
Tim Miller doesn’t call himself a Democrat but pretty completely repudiates all of the positions he previously held as a Republican (or rather, mocks them).  
 
I think they are more interested in taking down the Emperor than figuring out where they lie currently on a left-right spectrum, and I’m fine with that.  
I have no doubt some of them will come back to the GOP after Trump is gone. Miller probably stays on the left, though. Being gay doesn't fit with today's GOP.
Posted
24 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

An exit email is such a brave stand. 

Do you ever post something substantive that you have to defend with logic and data? 

 

Nevermind, I know the answer.

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Posted
Just now, capnamerca said:

Do you ever post something substantive that you have to defend with logic and data? 

 

Nevermind, I know the answer.

All the time. In real life and here. Probably higher standards than exit emails. Not sure why that triggered you. 

Posted
18 minutes ago, capnamerca said:

Possibly because the exit emails weren't actually the point, but rather the EXITS THEMSELVES are the point. I'm damn proud of the lawyers that left the firms who bent the knee to Trump, because they're standing on the principle of law and of the separation of powers. 

Sounds like it hits close to home. Sorry I guess that a ny law firm is taking some hits. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

I guess it is probably better than an exit social media post. 

I'm legitimately curious as to what you get out of all of this? Not in terms of social structure or global gains ... you, specifically. How are you better after all of this? Do you think you're making valid points? You don't seem to want to debate policy. You aren't raising counterpoints to the dominant narrative in these parts. You don't seem to have an opinion of your own or even a voice, really. You just seem to live on the margins, throwing barbs when it suits you and disappearing as soon as the conversation goes one click below surface level. 

Posted
15 hours ago, GenXer said:


Getting this motherfucker back on track


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Right wing:

Racism and cruelty and jack booted thugs and banning books….. 

or
Individual rights…..

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:


Right wing:

Racism and cruelty and jack booted thugs and banning books….. 

or
Individual rights…..

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Fascism comes for everyone eventually. Everyone. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I guess it is probably better than an exit social media post. 

 

There is only one way to exit in style.


Law firm spokesperson finally located for comment.

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Posted
8 hours ago, capnamerca said:

I'm legitimately curious as to what you get out of all of this? Not in terms of social structure or global gains ... you, specifically. How are you better after all of this? Do you think you're making valid points? You don't seem to want to debate policy. You aren't raising counterpoints to the dominant narrative in these parts. You don't seem to have an opinion of your own or even a voice, really. You just seem to live on the margins, throwing barbs when it suits you and disappearing as soon as the conversation goes one click below surface level. 

Sir, this is the Unlubed Dildo of Consequences thread. If you are coming to this thread looking for a serious policy debate, I would proffer that you have come to the wrong place. I am laughing at the notion of some baby lawyer at a white shoe firm writing a performative exit email and then sending it to a reporter. That is what I am getting out of this. If you don't find that humorous, sorry I guess.   

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Posted
1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Sir, this is the Unlubed Dildo of Consequences thread. If you are coming to this thread looking for a serious policy debate, I would proffer that you have come to the wrong place. I am laughing at the notion of some baby lawyer at a white shoe firm writing a performative exit email and then sending it to a reporter. That is what I am getting out of this. If you don't find that humorous, sorry I guess.   

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, capnamerca said:

Possibly because the exit emails weren't actually the point, but rather the EXITS THEMSELVES are the point. I'm damn proud of the lawyers that left the firms who bent the knee to Trump, because they're standing on the principle of law and of the separation of powers. 

Yeah, although I'm sure the existing associate had something lined up somewhere else, that's walking away from a mid-six-figures job.

And, saying something salty like that on the way out is not free of risk, even at another firm.  

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Posted
10 hours ago, capnamerca said:

I'm legitimately curious as to what you get out of all of this? Not in terms of social structure or global gains ... you, specifically. How are you better after all of this? Do you think you're making valid points? You don't seem to want to debate policy. You aren't raising counterpoints to the dominant narrative in these parts. You don't seem to have an opinion of your own or even a voice, really. You just seem to live on the margins, throwing barbs when it suits you and disappearing as soon as the conversation goes one click below surface level. 

besides the fact that half the people here have him on ignore, so he's basically talking to himself. please stop engaging him. he'll eventually go away, hopefully

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Posted
10 hours ago, capnamerca said:

I'm legitimately curious as to what you get out of all of this? Not in terms of social structure or global gains ... you, specifically. How are you better after all of this? Do you think you're making valid points? You don't seem to want to debate policy. You aren't raising counterpoints to the dominant narrative in these parts. You don't seem to have an opinion of your own or even a voice, really. You just seem to live on the margins, throwing barbs when it suits you and disappearing as soon as the conversation goes one click below surface level. 

He sniffs his own farts 24/7.

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

He's a fucking Russian troll.  Quit quoting the cunt.

This. I have the cunt on ignore, but it doesnt help when you fuckers feed the troll.

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Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, GenXer said:

.And how did the people of huntingdon county pennsylvania vote?

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eat shit, motherfuckers

yes, all of you summer-seasonal park related are screwed for the year.  But while you may go out of business or lose your home - you can rest easy assured that a transgender person is not winning a youth canoe race anywhere on the lake - or using the wrong bathroom.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, GenXer said:


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Trickle down economics in play.

And how did the people of huntingdon county pennsylvania vote?

 

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eat shit, motherfuckers

I think they’d understand better phrased either: 

Ahtta here n’ eat shit, yinz jagoffs!

or 

Yo, eat shit, yous fuckin’ dickheads!

 

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