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Good grief:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6341165/2025/05/07/donald-trump-commission-on-college-athletics/

Former Alabama head coach Nick Saban and Texas Tech board of regents chairman Cody Campbell would co-chair the commission President Donald Trump is interested in forming to examine the long list of issues facing college sports, a source briefed on the plans told The Athletic.

The source said Trump is expected to be “very engaged” with the commission because he sees the current state of college sports as an issue of national importance.

The New York Times and Wall Street Journal reported Trump was interested in weighing in with an executive order after the president spoke last week with Saban, who has expressed concern that college sports is being harmed by the big money pouring into it to compensate athletes with little regulation. Yahoo Sports first reported Wednesday that Trump is planning to create a presidential commission to examine a long list of issues facing college sports, from booster-funded payments and transfer rules to conference alignment and Title IX.

Campbell, who was elected chairman of the Texas Tech board of regents last month, is a former Red Raiders football player and one of the university’s most prominent donors. He is the co-founder and co-executive of Double Eagle Energy Holdings, an upstream oil and gas company based out of Fort Worth, Texas, which operates extensively in the Permian Basin region of West Texas. Campbell is also the co-founder of the Matador Club, an NIL collective that supports Texas Tech athletics, and he recently spearheaded the new $242 million south endzone project at Tech’s Jones AT&T Stadium, which overlooks Cody Campbell Field.

In February, Double Eagle sold a development for $4.1 billion, and in 2021, the company sold a previous development for $6.4 billion. Last month, Double Eagle announced a continued and expanded partnership with EnCap Investments, a prominent private equity company that specializes in the oil and gas industry. Campbell is a board member of Texas Public Policy Foundation and a distinguished fellow at the America First Policy Institute, the latter which has been integral to President Trump’s second-term policy agenda.

A presidential commission would typically dig into various aspects of an issue or enterprise and deliver a report suggesting possible solutions that could involve executive and legislative action. Earlier this month, Trump signed an executive order creating the Religious Liberty Commission.

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 As usual, this is perfect timing and seems extremely well thought-out, because nothing else big in the situation has happened recently.  

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Wouldn't you know that little shit is a Trumper.  Another instance of Trump, and many others, confusing wealth with competence.

Fuckin Tceh people are gonna ruin everything.

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6 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:

Cody Campbell should take some of those billions and invest in building a Time Machine so he can go back to his senior year of high school and apply to colleges with less shitty football programs. There are some stains that all the money in the world can’t wash away. 

Get your grades up or get your guns up

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I'm sure this won't be a giant shit show. I'm sure it will definitely be something equitable for everybody and isn't just another example of people buying favors from the president.

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Nick Saban, who hates legally paying players So much he retired, and a tech billionaire?

pepper your angus, Sark

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Given Saban's stance on NIL, and the results of Campbell's; I'd posit that you couldn't get two folks further apart on the topic.

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This will all be totally legal and totally cool. For those of you that really enjoy college sports get ready to see schools pay a grifter tax to stay on the good side of the president. 

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1 minute ago, UpperWestside said:

For those of you that really enjoy college sports get ready to see schools pay a grifter tax to stay on the good side of the president. 

Except Harvard.

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Wouldn't you know that little shit is a Trumper. 

If you mean Saban, I think he just hates paying players legally more than anything. The power went from the coaches to the players. Probably nothing to do with his like (or dislike) of Trump 

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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

If you mean Saban, I think he just hates paying players legally more than anything. The power went from the coaches to the players. Probably nothing to do with his like (or dislike) of Trump 

Nah, Campbell.  I was familiar with his oilpatch exploits and Tceh bagman, not sure why I'm surprised he's Tim Dunn, Jr.

And I guess he's ackshually a big shit.

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Nick Saban, who hates legally paying players So much he retired, and a tech billionaire?

pepper your angus, Sark

 

make bana football great again !!!!!

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Saban does not care if the players get paid. He thinks the collective should be a sort of universal payment to all players, with individual players free to maximize their own NIL money through endorsements, etc. He is much more concerned about the transferring than he is the paying on principle. 

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5 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Yeah, pretty sure he did a vaccine PSA. That's pretty ballsy, even for the most important man in Alabama. Dude just despises players having negotiating power and getting a small piece of the pie with every fiber of his being. Nothing political about it, he's just a giant asshole.

And a shitty vacation rental host apparently

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6 hours ago, Js1 said:

If you mean Saban, I think he just hates paying players legally more than anything. The power went from the coaches to the players. Probably nothing to do with his like (or dislike) of Trump 

Saban’s  a Catholic Trumper.

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Virtually impossible to comment on this thread without going CR, but I will say that Saban is an enigma to me. On the minus side, there's primarily his association with Bama and what appears to be some hypocrisy on his part regarding NIL, but it's a pretty damn complex problem and therefore difficult to judge.

Also a minus is that it's exceedingly difficult to trust any power structure, and he just aligned with the structure when he's supposed to be "retired," whatever that means -- and I'm not going to trust anyone in that kind of role who's also paid to be a talking head.

On the plus side, he appears to have some ability to poke fun at himself, and for a guy with such a deadpan personality he milks it for everything it's worth. So I gotta respect that, too.

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He’s actively trying to subvert our program because he is still on the Bama payroll.  He sees the sleeping giant waking from its coma and he knows that left unchecked we will lay waste to the landscape.

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30 minutes ago, tory676 said:

Nick Saban co-chairing a commission on college athletics is definitely interesting, his concerns about money influencing the sport are pretty valid. With Trump's involvement, it'll be interesting to see if anything major changes.

I want Trump's only involvement to be inviting the 2025-26 Texas team to the White House for a celebratory Mickey D's spread because they just won the whole damn thing.

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1 hour ago, tory676 said:

Nick Saban co-chairing a commission on college athletics is definitely interesting, his concerns about money influencing the sport are pretty valid. With Trump's involvement, it'll be interesting to see if anything major changes.

Probably not. Unless Congress or the courts get involved, it amounts to just some recommendations. Trump can’t “fix” CFB via executive order. 

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7 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

You somehow quoted someone else and attributed it to me.

Weird. Nothing I did different. Apologies.

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1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

You somehow quoted someone else and attributed it to me.

 

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Weird. Nothing I did different. Apologies.

MuellerHorn quoted tory676 in his post. I’m guessing you selected the text in the quote in his post and clicked “Quote selection.” You were replying to his post but quoting someone else and that’s why it appears as though the quote was attributed to him. If you select “Weird. Nothing I did different.” in my quote of you above and choose “Quote selection,” and then post the reply, it will appear as though you’re quoting me when you’re actually quoting yourself.

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There is zero good things that can come out of this.  Saban isn't working in Texas best interest here.  He wants to roll back the clock.  The TTech guy definitely isn't working in our best interest.  Both would love to create a new system that is a super-league (that just-so-happens to include TTech), with caps on player movement and earnings and an anti-trust exemption.  That requires a CBA and congress to pass a law.  Oh and the best part, the Double Eagle guy wants the super-league geographically divided, which would push Tceh back onto our schedule every year.

Let's be clear: the current wild west NIL situation is the perfect setup for Texas.  Paying players is legal and above board, so we don't have compliance getting their panties in a bunch and we don't have donors and administration clutching their pearls about dropping bags.  The House settlement will only raise the floor via rev sharing, we'll still set the ceiling with our NIL efforts.  The NIL clearinghouse will either get defanged or sued out of existence.

You can see why most of the schools want to go back to the old way, or put a soft/hard salary cap on players: it was much better for them. Saban can feign ignorance but he had bag men dropping illegal cash to buy players and everyone knew it. Because that was under the table the amounts pale in comparison to what those players are getting today.  Now NIL can be up to NFL 3rd round type money. There are only a handful of schools who can keep up in that world: Texas is at the top of that pile.

We should look at any change as negative because the current situation, while broken and imperfect, sets Texas up for success better than any other post integration.

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5 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

There is zero good things that can come out of this.  Saban isn't working in Texas best interest here.  He wants to roll back the clock.  The TTech guy definitely isn't working in our best interest.  Both would love to create a new system that is a super-league (that just-so-happens to include TTech), with caps on player movement and earnings and an anti-trust exemption.  That requires a CBA and congress to pass a law.  Oh and the best part, the Double Eagle guy wants the super-league geographically divided, which would push Tceh back onto our schedule every year.

Let's be clear: the current wild west NIL situation is the perfect setup for Texas.  Paying players is legal and above board, so we don't have compliance getting their panties in a bunch and we don't have donors and administration clutching their pearls about dropping bags.  The House settlement will only raise the floor via rev sharing, we'll still set the ceiling with our NIL efforts.  The NIL clearinghouse will either get defanged or sued out of existence.

You can see why most of the schools want to go back to the old way, or put a soft/hard salary cap on players: it was much better for them. Saban can feign ignorance but he had bag men dropping illegal cash to buy players and everyone knew it. Because that was under the table the amounts pale in comparison to what those players are getting today.  Now NIL can be up to NFL 3rd round type money. There are only a handful of schools who can keep up in that world: Texas is at the top of that pile.

We should look at any change as negative because the current situation, while broken and imperfect, sets Texas up for success better than any other post integration.

Agree with all this. Texas’ interests will be in the minority of any mass vote, though. UT needs to form bonds with the very few other schools in a similar situation (likes sports success, has large resources)- ND, tOSU, Michigan, (ugh) Oregon, UGA, USC, (sorry, but true) TAMU, maybe Florida, PSU and others, to prepare to split off if needed. 

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4 hours ago, 'stache said:

The guy who passed on buying the Dallas Cowboys for $50M, bought a USFL team instead, and proceeded to kill that league, thinks he can fix college football. Ok, lol.

Who passed on the Cowboys? Trump?  There is zero truth to that story. He only bought the USFL team in an attempt to get into the NFL. Then the NFL rejected even after he offered up the USFL as a sacrifice.

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6 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Who passed on the Cowboys? Trump?  There is zero truth to that story. He only bought the USFL team in an attempt to get into the NFL. Then the NFL rejected even after he offered up the USFL as a sacrifice.

Yeah, Trump desperately wanted to buy into the NFL but no one wanted him, so he settled for trying to come in the back door with a USFL-NFL merger.  

Jeff Perlman's book on this is awesome.  

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50 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Yeah, Trump desperately wanted to buy into the NFL but no one wanted him, so he settled for trying to come in the back door with a USFL-NFL merger.  

Jeff Perlman's book on this is awesome.  

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I haven't read the book but listened to Pearlman relay stories on his tiktok channel. My favorite being that the NY Giants owner personally handed Trump a $1 bill after the USFL beat the NFL in court. Something out of Trading Places.

Thanks for the reminder that I need to find this book.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Who passed on the Cowboys? Trump?  There is zero truth to that story. He only bought the USFL team in an attempt to get into the NFL. Then the NFL rejected even after he offered up the USFL as a sacrifice.

Yeah but the story makes him look even more stupid so we'll allow it.

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The players started getting their piece of the pie, and we just can't fucking have that, can we?

Agree that there is absolutely nothing that can come out of this that would be a net positive for Texas.

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The players started getting their piece of the pie, and we just can't fucking have that, can we?
Agree that there is absolutely nothing that can come out of this that would be a net positive for Texas.

That is not it at all. The issue is that it was cheaper to pay them under the table while a toothless NCAA did nothing. Now that the payment is legal, it has become more expensive and cheating through bagmen is no longer competitive. So the poorer schools who cheated cannot keep up.

Schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, ND will be able to leave behind OU, Alabama types. Texas Techs of the world will hate this, and they find it cheaper to try to limit others than to shell out the cash on their own.

It is also unAmerican to tell people what they can earn on their own time. The NFL has a salary cap, but that cap never prevented a star player from selling insurance as a side gig.
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12 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, ND will be able to leave behind OU, Alabama types. 

Those cheaters deserve a long, long walk in the desert.  Fuck them and fuck Nick Saban.  Coward quit when he didn't have a built in advantage anymore.

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2 hours ago, Nivek said:


That is not it at all. The issue is that it was cheaper to pay them under the table while a toothless NCAA did nothing. Now that the payment is legal, it has become more expensive and cheating through bagmen is no longer competitive. So the poorer schools who cheated cannot keep up.

Schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, ND will be able to leave behind OU, Alabama types. Texas Techs of the world will hate this, and they find it cheaper to try to limit others than to shell out the cash on their own.

It is also unAmerican to tell people what they can earn on their own time. The NFL has a salary cap, but that cap never prevented a star player from selling insurance as a side gig.

Unless Cody Campbell, among others, decides to turn his back on Tech, they aren't running out of money like some posters keep alluding to in this and the NIL threads.  Update your Tech profile in your brains, and I don't mean that as a slam.  It's just different from what many folks are thinking.

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