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3 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

This loss is on Arch. Too many bad throws without pressure.

Agreed. While sark wasn’t good this is really mostly in arch. 

2 minutes ago, Derka said:

sark could not be any worse at 4th down play calling. the sheer volume of 4th and short/4thband medium failures over the last 2+ seasons is sickening.

They wouldn’t have needed 4th down at all with better QB play.
 

I’m hoping arch is better next week and through the season  

2 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

Mildly competent QB play and we win this game 35-14.

Easily. 

1 minute ago, cabowabo said:

With decent QB play, we win that game. 

By 2 scores I bet 

Just now, Nivek said:


Sark fucked around, while Day adapted. We out rushed them but abandoned what worked so we could run inside and end possessions.

Sark failed.

Sark did but mainly because his qb failed him. 
 

sark has his blame for 4th down calls.  Should have kicked FGs and they might be tied. 
 

but the real culprit is the QBs inaccuracy 

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1 minute ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I agree. Sayin looks way, way better. Arch looked - very bad. True freshman at La Tech bad. 

Sayin got lucky.  any close coverage and the TD is a pick.  the first TD drive was ref ball.  

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1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

I’d put this way more on Arch than Sark.

Fuck no.   An “offense” that was comprised of run it between the tackles or drop back.  Open the playbook and air this shit out.   Reid of a Pussy coach.  

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Get the L out of the way early, I guess.  

The uni's looked nice.  Except for the part where the names fell off.

Watergirl was spot on, love the effort.

Red Zone offense was ... you know, keep trying.  But not those plays.

All in all, I'm glad I have beer.

 

 

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’m not real sure why people keep saying this. We’ve seen the results in similar games. They were the same 

We couldn't run last year. We could today. Ewers with this running game wins fairly easily. That was an absolutely horrific QB performance. He makes a dead simple throw to Wingo and we are tied. 

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We will be fine over the long haul. Ohio st had two losses last year and won it all when it mattered most. Overall the defense is gonna keep us in every game and manning will improve game to game. If it was 35-7 I’d be way more worried.
We aren't Ohio State though.
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2 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

I don’t know how you can watch the game and the throws Arch made and blame this on Sark. That was a Garrett Gilbert esque performance. 

I watched what happened when we ran the ball 4 times up the middle inside the 10. 

Don't forget that series of shitty calls. 

Plenty to blame on Arch, but Sark is fucking Mid and the game plan on offense was bad. 

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A bad opener but a lot to work on. Really the biggest concerns I have even more than Manning is Sarkisian obviously. That was the first big game for Manning, he will be better (also of course reinforces how stupid everyone who said Ewers was an average college QB is). But our offense overall is now showing repeated issues for 3 years running. That's on the coach, of course. Lot for him to figure out in 3 weeks. 

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Just now, futureman said:

making a couple throws when it counted would have won us the game pretty easily.  ewers could have done that no problem.

I mean we watched Ewers repeatedly not do that but ok

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I guess we have a solid ass defense, lost on the road to top 5 team at the very start of the season instead of towards the end, and have some games where hopefully Arch can get his shit together more. Or should i start writing out my will and finding a tall cliff?

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Just now, Vic Mackey said:
2 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:
We will be fine over the long haul. Ohio st had two losses last year and won it all when it mattered most. Overall the defense is gonna keep us in every game and manning will improve game to game. If it was 35-7 I’d be way more worried.

We aren't Ohio State though.

YET. 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

I’d put this way more on Arch than Sark.

And the receivers. Players gotta make plays in big games and they just didn't. So easy at all times to blame the refs and the coach.

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Just now, BabaYaga said:

Fuck no.   An “offense” that was comprised of run it between the tackles or drop back.  Open the playbook and air this shit out.   Reid of a Pussy coach.  

7 INTs

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Probably one of those we win by 2 scores if this was the 2nd game of the season.

….assuming this turns out to be a preseason game for arch and needed 4 quarters to get in a game flow and isn’t who he really is. 

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2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

That’s as bad a fucking game as I’ve ever seen a UT QB have. Disgusting he will be fine I think but that was awful and he should feel shame and embarrassment. 


lol. Do you have the memory of a goldfish?

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1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

Arch didn’t look good. But Sark really had a poor game plan and scheme and in game play calling. He even was requiring Arch to make some tough throws. Compare that to Quinn last year where Quinn had a bunch of easy throws. This loss is 80% on Sark the OC and 20% on Arch and the team. 

He gave Arch plenty of easy throws. He couldn't complete them.

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Posted (edited)

This game actually encourages me.  We have a good defense again.  We can run the ball reasonable well against top talent.  Arch will come along.  The game is too fast for him now.  He will improve.  Sark is just Sark.  He is what he is.  He turned the program around and he’s what we’re going to have for a while so get used to him.  Clamoring for an OC is a waste of breath.

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

A bad opener but a lot to work on. Really the biggest concerns I have even more than Manning is Sarkisian obviously. That was the first big game for Manning, he will be better (also of course reinforces how stupid everyone who said Ewers was an average college QB is). But our offense overall is now showing repeated issues for 3 years running. That's on the coach, of course. Lot for him to figure out in 3 weeks. 

I don't think Sark was good but we pretty clearly don't have the same skill position talent we did the past 2 seasons. 

I have nothing bad to say about Arch. He very obviously gets it - he just needs more reps. 

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

A bad opener but a lot to work on. Really the biggest concerns I have even more than Manning is Sarkisian obviously. That was the first big game for Manning, he will be better (also of course reinforces how stupid everyone who said Ewers was an average college QB is). But our offense overall is now showing repeated issues for 3 years running. That's on the coach, of course. Lot for him to figure out in 3 weeks. 

I said it before but merits repeating this is 70% Sark and 30% Arch. 

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not to be a sunshine pumper but the defending champions playing at home wasnt much better. 

if that was a top 5 team then the competition aint looking that hot. texas hopefully can shake this first game jitters off. 

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Gaffords said:

Because Ewers hits those easy throws?

I guess we won these games the last 3 years then huh. It’s almost like we have a gameday coaching issue

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2 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Sark is showing some Mack like tendencies in big games and Arch is no VY.

I think that’s Sark doing. 
 

remember when Mack said he had to let Vince be Vince?? 
Think Sark held Arch back from running and made him a pocket QB which he’s not. 
 

Think Sark needs to swallow his fucking pride and let Arch play 

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Hopefully Arch learns from this, settles down, and takes a big step forward in future games.  The whole preseason Heisman favorite thing was ridiculous -- nobody with such a limited body of work should have been considered the Heisman favorite and it placed even more pressure on him (after already having a ton of pressure with his name, being the star recruit, taking over from Ewers, etc.)  He was pretty bad in the first half, but did improve in the second half (though he still had multiple shitty throws, including the pick and that last attempt to Wingo), which is mildly encouraging.  At least in the second half he started making some big-time throws mixed in with the lousy ones.  He'll get better. 

Sark deserves criticism as well.  Terrible playcalling in goal line.  Way too vanilla in the first half.   

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I mean we watched Ewers repeatedly not do that but ok

ewers would have been sacked four times today with how well tosu covered our wrs and how skittish he was in the pocket. nobody is saying that arch played well, but the assertion that quinn would have led us to a win today is baseless.

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6 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

This one is mostly on Sark for sure.

Nah sark has some blame but this is mostly in manning and his inaccuracy. 

1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Fuck no.   An “offense” that was comprised of run it between the tackles or drop back.  Open the playbook and air this shit out.   Reid of a Pussy coach.  

Did you watch Arch play or no?  I’m starting to think sark knows he can’t be giving too much to his QB. Having his back to the line of scrimmage like Ewers would at times.  
 

arch lost this game. It’s not okay but they’ll hopefully learn from it. 

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