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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Don't forget the Indians.

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Why does Kash Patel always look:

1.) High as shit at a work function / tweaking / on a bad trip

2.) Fighting a wet shart 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

You don’t think he intended to use the specific examples to be representative of the whole?

Why would he be against DEI in general if he only thinks the specific examples he uses are the problem and not ALL minority hires?

You aren’t that stupid you are a lying sack of shit. Fuck you

He totally wasn't racist and only used examples of some of the absolutely most qualified black women ever (SJL is a stretch, admittedly) to make his point.  What's not to understand?

 

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56 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

You can make this same “argument” about you: You like Kirk because your algorithm and social media circle told you to like him and what he said wasn’t racist. 

💯 I simply started posting on this topic because there were a lot of people espousing insults and accusations against the man that simply aren’t true with nothing to back it up other than more insults and name calling. When questioned, I am told the same of myself and to stop posting. 

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16 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

No. He hints > 1 person and likely the Jews.

No blood libel, though: 

Kind of lazy IMO. 

My take is base purely on my conjecture of a 4chan masturbatory fever dream.

You want something that's not lazy?  In my quest to understand the ballistics behind the shot and whether Kirk was wearing body armor or not, I ran into this guy.  Who thinks a guy behind Kirk had a cellphone gun.  Yes, a cellphone gun.

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzZakMqdKv

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4 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Why does Kash Patel always look:

1.) High as shit at a work function / tweaking / on a bad trip

2.) Fighting a wet shart 

He apparently started out pretty liberal according to his bio.  After graduating Richmond and then Pace (very mid) law school, he worked as a public defender in Florida and then as a federal public defender.  A PD that gives a shit will work pretty hard just because of the caseload.  He probably gave a shit as a state public defender or they wouldn't have hired him as a federal public defender, where shit-ass pleading of clients is not an accepted practice.

So, it seems in his early career, he worked pretty hard and for less than awesome pay (compared to a white shoe firm for example).

Then he got on the political grift, including political appointments where he learned he could just sit around and talk shit and get paid pretty decent wages.

The FBI director job is making him work again, despite his efforts to turn it into a years-long Vegas vacation.  That and his underqualification for the job probably explain his recent expressions.

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8 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

💯 I simply started posting on this topic because there were a lot of people espousing insults and accusations against the man that simply aren’t true with nothing to back it up other than more insults and name calling. When questioned, I am told the same of myself and to stop posting. 

Isn’t that what Charlie did with black ppl?

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Posted
22 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

TLDR: they happily let people like Charlie use racism, division, and hate as a sword, then wrap themselves in the flag and the cross as a shield.  Because they are reprehensible, gutless cowards too yellow to own their actual beliefs.

 

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Why does Kash Patel always look:
1.) High as shit at a work function / tweaking / on a bad trip
2.) Fighting a wet shart 

Kimmel said last night that Patel always looks like he just got hit by a Volkswagen.
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2 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

You want something that's not lazy?  In my quest to understand the ballistics behind the shot and whether Kirk was wearing body armor or not, I ran into this guy.  Who thinks a guy behind Kirk had a cellphone gun.  Yes, a cellphone gun.

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzZakMqdKv

Loop Trump GIF
 

Simpsons… I mean The Jackal did it.

 


 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Enchubben said:

LOL. This is such a perfect example. We don’t like your opinion, so shut up fascist!

You have been given multiple examples of Charlie Kirk being a complete POS, including video evidence, but you keep telling people to give you examples.  We have, asshole. Now, go away.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

💯 I simply started posting on this topic because there were a lot of people espousing insults and accusations against the man that simply aren’t true with nothing to back it up other than more insults and name calling. When questioned, I am told the same of myself and to stop posting. 

 

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Posted (edited)

^^ he wears jorts to cowboys games and would claim charlie's statements about cowboys fans were an inside joke they had

 

edit: this thread moves too fast

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1 hour ago, Hookah Horns said:

Apparently a lot of people lost their jobs just for posting Charlie Kirk's own quotes in the wake of the shooting. Some of the craziest shit I've ever seen. 

I'm not really defending anything about what's happening due to this, I'm just making an observation. 

These people lacked basic self control to just shut the fuck. A lot of people here lack that same basic self control, but the surly megaphone isn't quite as bit and far reaching as global algorithm driven social media. 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Bullshit. People like Kirk and you mouth breathers have a “complaint” because such an applicant pool leads to more minority hires and you (wrongly) believe most if not all those resultant hires result in a less qualified person (ie not the white dude) getting a job. It’s circular reasoning, it’s objectively wrong, and it’s absolutely racist, misogynistic, and trans/homophobic at its core. 

P.S. Fuck you

this relates to a thing that I'm curious about, if it's cultural or a broadly human thing or whatever. But there's the idea that a) there is an objective measurement of "more or less qualified" and b) only technical skill/talent/effort should or could matter regarding that measurement. Like, if someone believes that there is a measurement that indicates that they have the most knowledge and skill as a javascript developer, then there is no valid rationale to hire another person over them or even give some other person oversight responsibility to them or their work. Probably choosing sw devs as an example is bad because that's such a type, but I think it's widespread and maybe particularly among males this belief that there is an objectively correct choice or ranking in that type of scenario and that there is a specific kind of merit that is the only thing that can count. And that thing is such fertile ground for breeding misogyny and racism, which of course is why it is used to do that. It's the same thing as... asserting that Yngwie Malmsteen or some other technically proficient instrumentalist that makes niche music for fans of instrumentalism is a better musician than (obvious example) Taylor Swift when almost any metric you might use to meaningfully determine that (pointless and meaningless) distinction would give you the opposite conclusion.

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15 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Him being killed is bad. Him being dead is good, imo. 

I don’t celebrate his murder but I’m damn sure not about to start celebrating how he spent his life. Nothing good will come of the murder. He’s obviously causing much more trouble as a martyr and figurehead than as a third-rate mouthpiece who spent his time trying to own 19 year olds. 

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7 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm not really defending anything about what's happening due to this, I'm just making an observation. 

These people lacked basic self control to just shut the fuck. A lot of people here lack that same basic self control, but the surly megaphone isn't quite as bit and far reaching as global algorithm driven social media. 

Nu-uh!

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38 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

 

You still haven't answered this very straightforward question.

You're not going to get an answer because for guys like him it's all about the plausible deniability and feigning ignorance. Just like you wont get an answer on why multiple HBC's had to lock down campus due to threats the day following his assassination despite the accusations that it was some radical liberal-marxist-trans-immigrant. 

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Posted (edited)

A reminder that Tyler Robinson turned himself 4+ days ago in and is still "not cooperating". Great work, Utah law enforcement and the FBI. 

 

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1 minute ago, speed817 said:

One of my friends on facebook posted this.  For those interested in free TPUSA material.....

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I’m guessing that no one who orders that constitution kit actually reads it.

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43 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

💯 I simply started posting on this topic because there were a lot of people espousing insults and accusations against the man that simply aren’t true with nothing to back it up other than more insults and name calling. When questioned, I am told the same of myself and to stop posting. 

His own words, in context, were used to back it up. 

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45 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

💯 I simply started posting on this topic because there were a lot of people espousing insults and accusations against the man that simply aren’t true with nothing to back it up other than more insults and name calling. When questioned, I am told the same of myself and to stop posting. 

The "insults" as you call them were his own words of racism and bigotry that he used.  Are you really this fucking stupid?

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Performance art, I guess. I can’t watch more than a few seconds of CK clips without feeling like I’m being poisoned. The fact that he had a large following is seriously depressing to me.

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I’m guessing that no one who orders that constitution kit actually reads it.

You’re assuming it has something to do with the United States Constitution. I wouldn’t be so sure.
Posted
21 hours ago, Sheep Have Wool said:

What year did you graduate from the Charlie Kirk School of Debate?

I’ll tell you when you spill the beans about how much you contributed to the Tyler Robinson legal defense fund.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

A reminder that Tyler Robinson turned himself 4+ days ago in and is still "not cooperating". Great work, Utah law enforcement and the FBI. 

 

"Ok, listen here son.  We know you did it.  All we need is for you to say is that you're a radical leftist who was desperately in love with your trans roomie.  That bussy was just too tempting for you.  So you shot Kirk to make your furry trans lover happy.  K?"

"But, but, but I'm a Groyper! I killed Kirk for a laugh and because he's a dirty Jew lov. . ."

"No, no, no.  Leftist.  Trans.  Boy pussy.  Stick to the script.  A heartfelt apology and remorse that you turned your back on your caring, MAGA, freedom loving family would also be a big help."

"But that's not tru. . ."

"And by the way, you're absolutely getting the death penalty immediately with no appeals or extended time on death row.  Trump actually wants you shot as soon as you leave the court house.  So, yeah.  Here's a pen!" 

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1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

If a proper DEI strategy was in place like the one you described (where it was meant to increase the initial pool of candidates) I don’t think most people would have a complaint here.

Thats not what happens in the real world, because the natural next step is to track “progress” which means hires of those candidates based on predetermined goals or quotas. What follows is incentivizing people based on hiring those with that criteria, then punishment of those that don’t. Again, I’m sure this isn’t everywhere, but this is my experience exactly, and I don’t think I’m alone.

I’d revert back to my initial point, which was Charlie’s arguments we’re never we don’t need black people in the workforce because they don’t have brain power. He wasn’t racist, and calling him that is cheap and lazy at best. I bet I would find something similar in what many find to be his most “deplorable” quotes or statements. People hated him because  their algorithm and social media circle told them to hate him, not because he was actually a bad person.

Sheila Jackson Lee- Education- NYU, UVA, Yale-Juris Doctorate

Lauren Boebart- Education- GED

Marjorie Taylor Greene- Education- Georgia-BBA

Mike Johnson-Education-LSU Juris Doctorate

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Ketanji Jackson Brown- Education- Harvard-Juris Doctorate

Chief Justice John Roberts Education- Harvard- Juris Doctorate

Samuel Alito- Education-Princeton, Yale- Juris Doctorate

Neil Gorsuch- Education- Columbia, Harvard, Oxford Dphil

Brett Kavanaugh- Education- Yale-Juris Doctorate

Amy Coney Barrett- Education- Rhodes College, Notre Dame- Juris Doctorate

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Michelle Obama -Education- Princeton, Harvard Juris Doctorate

Melania Trump- Education- One year at University of Ljubljana

Jill Biden- Education- University of Delaware, Villanova, West Chester College- MD

Laura Bush- SMU, University of Texas MLS

Hillary Clinton- Education- Wellesley College, Yale- JD

Barbara Bush- Education- One year at Smith College

Nancy Reagan- Education- Smith College BA

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Joy Reid- Education- Harvard-BA

Sean Hannity- Education- NYU did not graduate

Laura Ingraham- Education- Dartmouth, University of Virginia JD

Charlie Kirk- Education- One semester at Harper College 

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 If their were names or faces attached to each one of these all 4 women are absolutely being brought in for an interview. Each one of these black women has a more impressive resume than almost anyone else in their peer group. The fact that you cannot process that is an indictment on you and your brain power. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

@Enchubben what was your ultimate goal in coming into this thread?  To prove that he was a good guy?  Because it's quite plain: he was not a good guy.  

I got tired of seeing people post hateful comments about a man who was shot in the neck in front of his wife and kids with little to no actual knowledge about his beliefs.

You are entitled to your opinion about his ideologies, and I don’t hate you for having them.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm not really defending anything about what's happening due to this, I'm just making an observation. 

These people lacked basic self control to just shut the fuck. A lot of people here lack that same basic self control, but the surly megaphone isn't quite as bit and far reaching as global algorithm driven social media. 

And we are not all posting on our social media accounts using our real names. You have to be pretty stupid to post controversial things on your social media accounts post-2014 IMO.

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Selected this post, but there are so many others....I'm actually glad Enchubben is sharing his unvarnished thoughts, because it's a good glimpse into the mind of someone who is simultaneously clueless, and thinks they're a good person....who is also a vile racist.

He described a made-up "DEI" boogeyman that doesn't exist.  It's a straw man for the right to construct and then demonize, which gives them justification for their continued suspicion and resentment of all people who aren't white males (note that white males are literally the ONLY class that doesn't get the "I just can't trust that they weren't a 'DEI hire'" treatment).  This is how deeply permeated the racism is.  

And how he just blows by straight-forward, unambiguous statements like him saying that black women just don't have the brain power.  Or, in choosing to criticize the Cowboys, going to the race of their fanbase.  What possible relevance could that have to anything or anyone?  There are 100,000 reasons to hate the Cowboys and their fans (I can list them, as I share in most of them).  But mentioning the race/ethnicity of their fans WOULDN'T EVEN FUCKING OCCUR TO ME, BECAUSE I'M NOT A FUCKING WHITE SUPREMACIST.

It's the casualness, and ubiquity, of white supremacist ideology that's being revealed in this discussion.  They don't argue that Charlie Kirk didn't say or think those things.  They just move the goalposts, and say "racist things really aren't racist."  It's not "racist" to think that black women are inferior...it's just true.  It's not racist to say that foreigners should be whipped -- that's just a good idea.  It's not racist to say that the phrenology of the skulls of negroes correlates to lower IQs, that's just science (see the road we're on?  Everything old will become new again).

Enchubben doesn't wear a robe and white hood.  Enchubben surely thinks of himself as a good person, who doesn't mean any harm to anyone.  Enchubben also holds deep-seated beliefs and opinions about how minorities are actually inferior, and likely get any role or achievement through "cheating" (that's what they think "DEI" is), and how minorities are just generally lower class (I mean, look at those little mexican Cowboys fans), etc. etc. etc.  That doesn't make him racist, he's just calling it like it is.  Guys in klan robes aren't the danger to America and humanity.  Guys like Enchubben are.  Because the guys in the klan robes are few, and so over-the-top that they are easy to combat.  Guys like Enchubben are your neighbor.  Your neighbor who, when seeing my last name on the pleadings of a court case, thinks "DEI hire," and that I am probably an inferior intellect.  Maybe he's the judge in my case, and he automatically knocks my credibility down a peg because surely, I got where I got by taking a more qualified white man's position.  If Enchubben is a banker, he thinks I am something more of a lending risk because again, while my job title LOOKS nice, I probably really don't deserve it, and I won't last long out there in the real world, where skill and talent make a difference.

I'm glad that the Enchubbens of the world are so clueless about their racism and contempt for everyone who is not a white male that they state it openly and plainly.  Being able to see the force bent on destroying our society right out there in the open is a helpful advantage for the rest of us.

Now . . . to figure out what to do with it.  Because the Enchubbens have ALSO made it plain that putting objective truth that runs contrary to their worldview right in front of them . . . does nothing.  I keep coming back to "they're going to have to see what a shitshow their 'dream society' turns into when they have their way, and all non-white males are put back under the boot where they belong."

You’re right. He probably wouldn’t be marching with these guys in Huntington Beach. This happened…checks notes…two days ago. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

I got tired of seeing people post hateful comments about a man who was shot in the neck in front of his wife and kids with little to no actual knowledge about his beliefs.

You are entitled to your opinion about his ideologies, and I don’t hate you for having them.

 

 

Either you don't undersand the English language, or are an unrepentant liar. We know all too well his beliefs. We know yours, as well.

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2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

And we are not all posting on our social media accounts using our real names. You have to be pretty stupid to post controversial things on your social media accounts post-2014 IMO.

This is my real name. 

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1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

And we are not all posting on our social media accounts using our real names. You have to be pretty stupid to post controversial things on your social media accounts post-2014 IMO.

All the same to the FBI. There's no way to access surly without exposing your endpoint. It's not possible. 

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1 minute ago, Enchubben said:

I got tired of seeing people post hateful comments about a man who was shot in the neck in front of his wife and kids with little to no actual knowledge about his beliefs.

You are entitled to your opinion about his ideologies, and I don’t hate you for having them.

 

 

Lets "agree to disagree" that we have no actual knowledge about his beliefs - I think that Charlie Kirk himself is a perfectly good source to determine what his beliefs are and I don't have a hard time sussing out how I feel about them.

Is it your opinion that getting shot in the neck in front of his wife and kids* should change our opinion about his beliefs?

 

*did that happen? Were his kids there? I'm curious if that's true, not that I think it's relevant to whether he or his beliefs were shitty. It would be another piece of sadness to this whole thing if it was true, obviously.

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

You’re right. He probably wouldn’t be marching with these guys in Huntington Beach. This happened…checks notes…two days ago. 
 

 

That goes in the book of "I don't think that Charlie Kirk was a racist white supremacist...but boy, all the racist white supremacists sure loved him."  And the Enchubbens of the world are absolutely clueless about what that indicates.  Clueless by either their idiocy, or purposeful denial, doesn't really much matter which it is.

If you're arguing vehemently that Charlie was in no way a hateful racist white supremacist, BUT, all the hateful white supremacists love him as one of them, use his death to chant "white people rule" shit, and make multiple death threats against HBCUs, etc etc......MAYBE, just MAYBE...you are arguing a shitty position.

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2 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

I got tired of seeing people post hateful comments about a man who was shot in the neck in front of his wife and kids with little to no actual knowledge about his beliefs.

You are entitled to your opinion about his ideologies, and I don’t hate you for having them.

Thank you. Him being shot is a disaster for his family and for our country. The fact that his ideologies were gross and really he was nothing more than another clout seeking debate bro at the end of the day is frustrating when you see him being romanticized and put up on a pedestal. Like even if he was a debate bro whose ideology I liked I would find that uncomfortable.

As far as the DEI stuff is concerned you have to understand why I am extremely bitter and cynical about it. Back when quotas and affirmative action were a thing, I was assured that the second we got rid of those the racist shit people would give black people who were in any position that wasn't a stereotypically black one would end. That they would be given the respect they were due. Nope. We got rid of all that stuff and people just invent new reasons to assume that black people don't deserve shit. Almost as if they think black people are inferior and come up with excuses to cover up that true belief. It is the same old shit. Especially today where nepotism, corrupt buddy networks, and incompetence are the name of the game in almost every profession and field.

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The FBI spoke to the dad and the roommate but didn't discover this bombshell motive? Yeah, okay, sure.

FBI: “So you say your son disliked the victim, can you think of a reason why?”

Dad: “No idea. Maybe talk to his roommate? Warning though, he’s transgender and they’re both kind of sensitive about it.”

FBI: “Hey Lou, did the victim ever say anything about trans people.”

Lou: “I don’t think so, Chief.”

FBI: “Sir, what your son does in his personal life is none of my business.”

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Posted
9 hours ago, Enchubben said:

LOL. This is such a perfect example. We don’t like your opinion, so shut up fascist!

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In our assymetrical war of pro-republic versus anti-republic, accuracy has been portrayed as name-calling. Your words and whom you support define you pretty clearly. This unattractive label allows fascists to claim the right to indignation while non-fascists in public forums shy from describing what their eyes clearly see.

Ironically, the indignant party shamelessly spews hyperbole and lies like the ass end of a diarrhea rocket. These sensitive souls speak of Dems as radical socialists looking to destroy America and prone to violence. They all nod and feed from the rocket's nozzle.

Your president and party are fascists in the process of dismantling what was once a pretty good republic. You revere the Pledge of Allegiance but abbreviate it similarly to the way the Second Amendment gets abbreviated. Sure, let's pledge allegiance to the flag. Full stop. The republic for which it stands? Huh? Wahz that? I just know that I'm on the same team as that jersey flying from the pole. Are you?

The ill fate of a fascist disturbs me not at all. The fascists say they are at war with me; why should I give a shit if one of them dies? Why shouldn't I be glad of it?

I'm not forced to be assymetrical anymore than those who embrace the advantages of assymetrical conflict. 

TLDR? Fuck you and shut up, fascist.

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5 minutes ago, immamac said:

All the same to the FBI. There's no way to access surly without exposing your endpoint. It's not possible. 

Famous But Incompetent? We'll see. I also have too much contempt for the media thinking they would think to check something as archaic as message boards.

But maybe you are right. Maybe even posting here is a bad idea.

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25 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

People very concerned about DEI hiring practices jumped at the chance to elect a reality TV star to be POTUS. 

 

Game show host. 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

He apparently started out pretty liberal according to his bio.  After graduating Richmond and then Pace (very mid) law school, he worked as a public defender in Florida and then as a federal public defender.  A PD that gives a shit will work pretty hard just because of the caseload.  He probably gave a shit as a state public defender or they wouldn't have hired him as a federal public defender, where shit-ass pleading of clients is not an accepted practice.

So, it seems in his early career, he worked pretty hard and for less than awesome pay (compared to a white shoe firm for example).

Then he got on the political grift, including political appointments where he learned he could just sit around and talk shit and get paid pretty decent wages.

The FBI director job is making him work again, despite his efforts to turn it into a years-long Vegas vacation.  That and his underqualification for the job probably explain his recent expressions.

Kash Patel was a DEI hire.



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