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Posted
42 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

He's a moron. 

Also, that reminds me. @immamac, @Incredulity engages in retaliatory negs which doesn't actually bother me but you've said in the past is not allowed. He made several absolutely terrible and stupid posts yesterday and I negged some of them. He counted how many and then went back through my posting history to neg the exact same amount. 

What I propose is not that you ban him because, again, internet rep is stupid. Instead let's just save everyone's time and you can just go in the database and subtract 13,000 rep points from each of us. Deal? 

Somebody watches final Jeopardy 

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36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So, the “story” here is going to turn out pretty simple. Any sliver of evidence that would tie the shooter to “the left?” It will be trotted out, prominently displayed, the subject of a Kash Patel press conference. Any sliver of evidence that would tie him to right wing extremism? Silence. Seriously, if we hear nothing more about his motives? That’s your answer: they have evidence, they’ll just never share it because it doesn’t fit the chosen narrative of the (not even close to objective) entities in charge of the investigation. Kash’s FBI will never, ever let anything come out that would go against the regime’s preferred narrative.
Of course, the truth is probably closer to him being another young male who got his brain totally warped by immersing himself in a particularly warped online world, with beliefs that aren’t really beliefs at all and can’t be pigeonholed into easily. In short, another warped, broken-brained nutbar. But the truth is the last thing that matters. The god of the regime must be served.

I don’t even bother engaging with my few Facebook “friends” who are spouting the conclusory nut job blaming of the liberals and Democratic party for Kirk’ death. There’s too much impenetrable cognitive dissonance going on there. 

And I put “friends” in quotes, because while they were at some point long ago friends or acquaintances, their dive into the deep end of the MAGA pool has killed any real friendship I might have with them. But I don’t unfriend them, because I need to continually see the shit that part of our country believes and communicates.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Rather than place the following in the thread for Miller, it might be better served here because the weaponization of not only this event, but the resources and power that will be put to use are going to be staggering if it proceeds. (unless everyone just capitulates which would align with some of history and not align with other history) I've seen scattered chatter about the president's health is accelerating a power struggle between some of the leadership team, Miller, the vp, and others. So, the below might make one consider one's sm accounts as well as other (ahem) accounts (not that citizens aren't already surveilled heavily) including bank accounts (thanks DOGE for grabbing all of that info). Here we go:

This has been posted elsewhere but as a reminder...

"We are gonna do that." So what is that exactly?

Which law will that be that you have broken? Mean tweets? Well, the law is anything they say it is now isn't it? How you vote, for whom you voted, what you've said, to whom you've said or written it, all up for grabs?

Jonathan Chait has a piece in The Atlantic about Trump's speech on the assassination of Kirk and I hope I'm attributing the following by political commentator Greg Sargent correctly as he takes Chait's article a step further:

This type of repression is being reinforced over and over and over again by others such as Rufo (and doesn't the whole framing by Miller sound similar to the Abbott decree regarding Texas' law regarding women's choice regarding their healthcare decisions?), and so many GOP pols I can't include them all.

Pretty crazy times and the pot is boiling already.

 

 

What I've never understood about this playbook being run with full knowledge of history is the complete disregard for how it can be used against you in the frenzied aftermath of a "conflict, election, whatever" that you lose.  

It's not as if history isn't littered with what becomes of the leaders and mouthpieces of oppressive regimes when the worm turns...it's usually not very civil.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, immamac said:

Oh damn. I like this idea. 

Please do this but there has to be a rule that you can only neg each other in Cloak Room. I bet his threadshitting would end really quickly as would his need to reply with a pithy gif instead of actual content and discussion.

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Jamelle Bouie, as always, is great:

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Virtually every person of note in American politics has, rightfully, condemned the horrific killing of Charlie Kirk and expressed their deep concerns about the growing incidence of political violence in the United States. Wherever we stand politically, we all agree that he should still be alive.

There has been less agreement about Kirk’s life and work. Death tends to soften our tendency to judge. And sudden, violent death — especially one as gruesome and shocking as this one — can push us toward hagiography, especially in the immediate wake of the killing.

So it goes for Kirk.

“Charlie inspired millions,” President Trump said in an Oval Office speech on Wednesday. “He championed his ideas with courage, logic, humor and grace.”

“The best way to honor Charlie’s memory,” Gov. Gavin Newsom of California declared, “is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse.”

Kirk’s approach, wrote the editors of Politico’s Playbook, “was to persuade, to use charm and charisma and provocation and the power of argument to convince people of the righteousness of his cause.”

There is no doubt that Kirk was influential, no doubt that he had millions of devoted fans. But it is difficult to square this idealized portrait of Kirk as model citizen with the man as he was.

Kirk’s eulogists have praised him for his commitment to discourse, dialogue and good-faith discussion. Few if any of them have seen fit to mention the fact that Kirk’s first act on the national stage was to create a McCarthyite watchlist of college and university professors, lecturers and academics. Kirk urged visitors to the website to report those who “discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.”

The list, which still exists, is a catalog of speech acts in and outside the classroom. The surest way to find yourself on the watchlist as an academic is to disagree, publicly, with conservative ideology, or even acknowledge ideas and concepts that are verboten among the far right. And the obvious intent of the list is made clear at the end of each entry, where Kirk and his allies urge readers to contact the schools and institutions in question. Targets of the watchlist attest to harassment and threats of violence.

The Professor Watchlist is a straightforward intimidation campaign, and you can draw a line directly from Kirk’s work attacking academics to the Trump administration’s all-out war on American higher education, an assault on the right to speak freely and dissent.

To speak of Kirk as a champion of reasoned discussion is also to ignore his frequent calls for the state suppression of his political opponents.

“‘Investigate first, define the crimes later’ should be the order of the day,” Kirk declared in an editorial demanding the legal intimidation of anyone associated with the political left. “And for even the most minor of offenses, the rule should be: no charity, no goodwill, no mercy.”

Speaking last year in support of Trump’s plan for mass deportation, Kirk warned that the incoming president would not tolerate dissent or resistance. “Playtime is over. And if a Democrat gets in our way, well, then Matt Gaetz very well might go arrest you,” he said.

It is also important to mention that Kirk was a powerful voice in support of Trump’s effort to “stop the steal” after the 2020 presidential election. His organization, Turning Point USA, went as far as to bus participants to Washington for the rally that devolved into the Jan. 6 riot attack on the Capitol.

And then there is Kirk’s vision for America, which wasn’t one of peace and pluralism but white nationalism and the denigration of Americans deemed unworthy of and unfit for equal citizenship.

On his podcast, Kirk called on authorities to create a “citizen force” on the border to protect “white demographics” from “the invasion of the country.” He embraced the rhetoric of white pride and warned of “a great replacement” of rural white Americans.

“The great replacement strategy, which is well underway every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different,” he said last year. “You believe in God, country, family, faith, and freedom, and they won’t stop until you and your children and your children’s children are eliminated.”

Kirk also targeted Black Americans for contempt. “Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people — that’s a fact,” he said in 2023. Kirk was preoccupied with the idea of “Black crime,” and on the last episode of his show before he was killed, he devoted a segment to “the ever-increasing amount of Black crime,” telling his audience, falsely, that “one in 22 Black men will be a murderer in their lifetime” and that “by age of 23, half of all Black males have been arrested and not enough of them have been arrested.”

Kirk told his listeners that Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson of the Supreme Court “is what your country looks like on critical race theory,” that former Vice President Kamala Harris was “the jive speaking spokesperson of equity,” and that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. “was awful.”

“I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I’ve thought about it,” Kirk said at a 2023 event. “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”

This is just a snippet of Kirk’s rhetoric and his advocacy. He also believed that there was no place for transgender people in American society — “We must ban trans-affirming care — the entire country,” he said in 2024 — and has denounced L.G.B.T. identities as a “social contagion.”

It is sometimes considered gauche, in the world of American political commentary, to give words the weight of their meaning. As this thinking goes, there might be real belief, somewhere, in the provocations of our pundits, but much of it is just performance, and it doesn’t seem fair to condemn someone for the skill of putting on a good show.

But Kirk was not just putting on a show. He was a dedicated proponent of a specific political program. He was a champion for an authoritarian politics that backed the repression of opponents and made light of violence against them. And you can see Kirk’s influence everywhere in the Trump administration, from its efforts to strip legal recognition from transgender Americans to its anti-diversity purge of the federal government.

We can mourn Kirk. We can send prayers to his friends and family. We can take stock of the gravity of this event. We can — and should — do all of this and more without pretending he was something, as a public figure, that he was not.

 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Who is Miller talking about, what have they done, what laws have they broken, what does he mean by 'live in exile', etc? 

Please to meet, hope you guessed my name.

Posted
1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

 

All of the twitter bots and trash maga accounts have been deployed and repeating the “he was leftist” refrain now. Any posts about the groyper angle are being obscured or ratioed. It’s all very unsurprising but extremely difficult to watch unfold.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

Fox News gonna Fox News ...

If true, this will be an absolute shitshow, but gut reaction to this:

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That will be on DT posted by Laguna or ChickenSandwich in about 5 minutes. 

Didn't the roommate alert authorities about the messages from Tyler?

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4 minutes ago, D_Goose said:

All of the twitter bots and trash maga accounts have been deployed and repeating the “he was leftist” refrain now. Any posts about the groyper angle are being obscured or ratioed. It’s all very unsurprising but extremely difficult to watch unfold.

At least some of the more respected outlets are picking this up, most notably Vanity Fair:

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Reports have been that he ain't talking.

Dumb kid should have started that the second he decided to do this. 

But he's just another soulless, brainwashed moron looking for meaning in a country that offers only greed and materialism. 

Born to a family of means who offer only propaganda and callous hatred of non whites and progressives. 

That's the real issue here. How these young people that keep carrying out mass shootings or this politicized killing are born to shit families indoctrinated with religious hatred then turned loose one the internet as a lonely, confused child with hate in their heart. No wonder they find pieces of shit like Fuentes or Kirk and then get radicalized to the point of murdering people, especially other kids at school. 

There's no positive, peaceful community or sense of belonging for people who brainwash with religious nuttery. The religious hate machine just gives way to the secular hate machine as one ages ans becomes indoctrinated. 

 

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Lulz, I can't wait to hear about how now just associating with trans people makes you a murderer. Hey, I also heard that his mailman voted for Kamala, so indoctrination there too. Probably better arrest both of them for what they did to this poor sweet maga kid.

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42 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

  Cringe

Now that skill is in my wheelhouse according to the bairns in my family. But as it relates to music, my dancing, and clothing choices.

24 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Correct. Despite the frothing at the mouth outrage, these people don't care about Charlie Kirk or his family. They care about using his death for politcal capital. Everyone is a tool to be used in their world. It's a sick way to be.

Coming soon from your television during childrens' indoctrination programming.

Transaction action it's my faction,

Hookin' up with those pew pew toys.

Transaction action, how's that faction?

We've got the means cause we're proud boys.

 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

That will be on DT posted by Laguna or ChickenSandwich in about 5 minutes. 

Didn't the roommate alert authorities about the messages from Tyler?

So, this is some kind of bullshit site, https://100percentfedup.com/if-tyler-robinson-wasnt-student-then-what-is/, but it points out that there have been official statements that Robinson lived at home with his parents, and also that he communicated with a "roommate."  But nothing stating he lived with a roommate currently, at home or elsewhere.

It would seem that the "roommate" was perhaps a former roommate from his brief stint at college away from home.

And if he's living with a roommate, why does he need to message the roommate on discord?

What a load of shit.

 

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Posted (edited)
53 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

If you think Charlie was a good person then you’re a shitty person. 

Yeah, even if you could "dismiss" everything else as just asking tough questions to the black community, LGBT, the potential drawbacks of DEI, etc. (you can't, to be clear), here he is helping spread one of the most blatant, easily disprovable, heinous pieces of propaganda (Haitans eating people's pets) in recent memory, whose SOLE purpose was to dehumanize immigrants and foreigners to stir up Trump's racist base. I'm not allowed to say it, but there was another famous group in human history that really liked to do that too.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I'm not allowed to say it, but there was another famous group in human history that really liked to do that too.

It's not pleasant to criticize one's own alma mater, so I applaud you doing that here. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, this is some kind of bullshit site, https://100percentfedup.com/if-tyler-robinson-wasnt-student-then-what-is/, but it points out that there have been official statements that Robinson lived at home with his parents, and also that he communicated with a "roommate."  But nothing stating he lived with a roommate currently, at home or elsewhere.

It would seem that the "roommate" was perhaps a former roommate from his brief stint at college away from home.

And if he's living with a roommate, why does he need to message the roommate on discord?

What a load of shit.

 

I think Fox News learned that Robinson was once served coffee by a transgender Starbucks employee, and they ran with that.

Posted
5 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

This all ends with Trump barring any democratic election winner to be certified. 

Or justify an attempt (hopefully not successful) to pursue a third term, which we should all expect is coming. 

Posted
18 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm not clicking that shit, but what's wrong with her eyes?

demonic possession

 

14 hours ago, freyguy said:

I can't wait until GMA starts running pieces for suburban moms related to:

"I've raised my kids to love guns, but now they've been radicalized on Discord!  What's a mom to do??"

i caught abc at 530 yesterday, they spent a good 20 seconds gaslighting discord (no groyper/fuentes)

fwiw they also went with "fascist markings", of course no pics, no discussion of the markings themselves

 

2 hours ago, Texaus said:

Is anyone in mainstream media covering the groyper/fuentes connection? Wtf

not that i've seen

 

2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

If I’m being honest, Thursday and Friday have made me much more depressed about the future of this country than Wednesday did.

this

 

1 hour ago, horncyclist said:

As far as I can tell that guardian quote and the anti fascist line on the bullet casing are the only two pieces of public evidence suggesting he was left in anyway. The quote was apparently bullshit and who knows what the bullet casings meant. Massive failure by the media to allow that to develop.
 

The groyper stuff is equally unproven but I take the GOP shutting up about him being a leftist to mean that there’s probably evidence that he was far right or just nuts. If they knew he espoused liberal views or pro trans rights or something, we would be hearing that. 

so far the only msm i've seen that is actually fact checking and owning their edits is newsweek

yes, newsweek

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-family-what-we-know-about-mom-amber-jones-robinson-dad-matthew-2128943

 

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Or the journalist could just do their actual job before taking things as fact.

the guardian got taken for a ride

repairing the fuckup doesn't matter - the hate engine isn't going to inject the retraction in to their evildome

Posted
2 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Or justify an attempt (hopefully not successful) to pursue a third term, which we should all expect is coming. 

Oh, he ain't willingly leaving in 2028.

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And now the Kirk supporters are pushing a narrative that the shooter’s roommate was transitioning from male to female. These people are not ok.

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But now they’re saying the one semester at Utah State apparently made him a libtard.

I don’t want to hate people I’ve known my whole life but it’s getting hard not to.

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Posted
1 hour ago, speed817 said:

Yup.....a bunch of people I know on facebook came out from under the covers the last few days lol

Yeah it has been wild. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Mileslong said:

But now they’re saying the one semester at Utah State apparently made him a libtard.

Everybody knows that Utah State is the tu of the state of Utah.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 


I don’t know if hot, white, GOP Jesus will ever be the same.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

But now they’re saying the one semester at Utah State apparently made him a libtard.

He also knew a trans person. I also heard that he once watched an episode of Will and Grace. 

Party of personal responsibility. 

Posted
17 hours ago, Pancho said:


Isreal?

 

Confused Kid Cudi GIF by Apple Music

Many people are saying that the groyper fucks are virulently anti-Semitic and hated Kirk for backing Israel. (Did I do that right?)

 

 

13 hours ago, C-Man said:

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“We’ve got the watch. See you in Valhalla, brother!”

Wildest donkey video yet.

 

 

13 hours ago, Chopper said:

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Not nearly enough children. 
 

 

2 hours ago, Shaddie said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/following-death-14-quotes-thoughts-195129835.html

Do you really need for the whole bakery to fall on your head to see the crumbs? 


@Coelenterate Fuccboi thinks that invoking DEI either excuses, or perhaps supports, racism, so he won’t be seeing any crumbs.
 

 

1 hour ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Actually I know a few Christian white supremacists

No you don’t.

 

 

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

There are a lot more than we think.   

No there isn’t. There are white supremacists that claim to be Christian. Tautology.

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Nick Fuentes is saying on Twitter that he and his followers are being framed for all of this with zero evidence. So it's bad when people make assumptions about you and blame you for something based on who you are? There's also tons of videos of him talking shit about Charlie Kirk to his followers. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:


 


 

 

No you don’t.

 

 

 

Sure I do. Some outwardly admit it.  Others deny it.  You’re not gonna believe this but this country was “founded” by Christians and many of them thought anyone not white was sub human.  

Posted
5 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Everybody knows that Utah State is the tu of the state of Utah.

And let's check the tapes on that:

Not sure what criterion all of this is based on, but scary that even kids at a top 11 conservative school aren't safe from "lIBRul IndOCtRiNatIoN!11!" (in 1 semester no less).  Won't someone think of the children?  Apparently we need to be expanding capacity at the last bastions of conservatism, Bob Jones U, Liberty and BYU immediately.

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2 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Sure I do. Some outwardly admit it.  Others deny it.  You’re not gonna believe this but this country was “founded” by Christians and many of them thought anyone not white was sub human.  

Can’t disagree that people who think like that may believe they are Christian. I am unwilling to agree that they are Christian.

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

Can’t disagree that people who think like that may think they are Christian. I am unwilling to agree that they are Christian.

True Christianity was hijacked years ago and contorted into a white nationalist religion. 

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43 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Oh, he ain't willingly leaving in 2028.

With his health as bad as it is, and the evidence he's had constant IV administration, he'll be unwillingly leaving well before then. 

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Fucking Kash Patel and the DOGE boys have been completely stomping on any expertise or morale at the bureau and then he erupts at his own creation. Real Victor Frankenstein moment here except the monster is just stepping on rakes and bonking his head on stuff. 
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/patel-ripped-fbi-agents-profanity-223105400.html 

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BI Director Kash Patel reportedly criticized subordinates in a tense Thursday morning meeting over their handling of the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s killer.

More than 200 agents joined the online call, which was first reported by The New York Times. An official attending the meeting told the Times that Patel criticized the agency’s “Mickey Mouse operations,” saying it was one of the few times in the call that he wasn’t cursing.

He’s lost Chris Rufo!

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“He performed terribly in the last few days, and it’s not clear whether he has the operational expertise to investigate, infiltrate, and disrupt the violent movements—of whatever ideology—that threaten the peace in the United States,” conservative activist Chris Rufo wrote on X.

Patel joined the FBI after a career as a federal prosecutor and Defense Department chief of staff. His lack of law enforcement experience led to some former GOP officials’ reservations against him stepping into the position.

 

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2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Fucking Kash Patel and the DOGE boys have been completely stomping on any expertise or morale at the bureau and then he erupts at his own creation. Real Victor Frankenstein moment here except the monster is just stepping on rakes and bonking his head on stuff. 
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/patel-ripped-fbi-agents-profanity-223105400.html 

He’s lost Chris Rufo!

 

Well yea.  This is what they are doing to public education and a lot of other things as well.  Gutting it and then screaming at it about how terrible it is.

 

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Posted
43 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

And now the Kirk supporters are pushing a narrative that the shooter’s roommate was transitioning from male to female. These people are not ok.

Are Fox News viewers unaware that most college aged people have roommates out of economic necessity and not affinity? This ain't no Arch Manning Parker Living-ston situation. Most people that age fucking despise their roommates and if Robinson was in groyper discords there's a 100% chance he would send photos and videos of that roommate to his groyper buddies to mock her.

Even if he didn't hate his roommate, what exactly is the allegation here?

Hey, Tyler, can you run down to the CVS? We're running low on milk. And while you're at it, do you think you could assassinate Charlie Kirk for me? Thanks! Love you!

Posted
1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Who is Miller talking about, what have they done, what laws have they broken, what does he mean by 'live in exile', etc? 

I think they mean everyone.  Like all the way down to you and me. They’ve been working from other politicians down to government workers, non-citizens who have a right to be here, to professors, they are coming for all of us. 

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