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1 hour ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Everything is about the grift. There is no honor amongst thieves. Doesn't matter the party. It is about the grift. Adjust accordingly. I have said it more times than I care. We are living in the wildest times. Folk actively cheering their downfall to own whatever boogeyman they are told exists. Folk outright robbing the working class and blaming brown people.

This started a long time ago but in the last 30 some odd years it has been clear the aggressive play. Protect wealth of the haves at all costs. 

It is untenable though at some point all of us, rich or poor, will be the poor. There is a class of careless evil that cares only about how much more they can squeeze out of the lemon. I hope yall are all prepared. We are headed for some fun shit. I am excited to see how many of the true believers can survive. I got my popcorn. 

This is one of the best posts in a long time. I don’t have kids (and won’t), so I’m just trying to skate til the end of my life before shit gets real real bad. Not looking great, considering I’m only 43, but my white male privilege might carry me longer than most. Good luck everybody else. I didn’t start this shit and actively fought against it for a decade. Now it’s me time. 

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5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is one of the best posts in a long time. I don’t have kids (and won’t), so I’m just trying to skate til the end of my life before shit gets real real bad. Not looking great, considering I’m only 43, but my white male privilege might carry me longer than most. Good luck everybody else. I didn’t start this shit and actively fought against it for a decade. Now it’s me time. 

Welcome! You've almost reached not giving a fuck. It's wonderful.

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is not showing your work. Which states?

Ohio, Maine, North Carolina, Iowa, Texas, Florida, Alaska, Nebraska (technically an independent that will caucus with Democrats, but whatever) and Kansas. No high quality in state polling from Kansas, but in 2018 things shifted enough for Dems to win the state and I’m banking on an even larger shift next year making that feasible. No polling from Iowa, but senator Ernst already retired instead of running for re-election, something has her scared. Also no high quality polling from Nebraska, but we almost won that last year with Trump on the ballot, and next year is going to be so much bluer. There’s my answer

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14 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

Ohio, Iowa, Texas, Florida, Alaska, Nebraska (technically an independent that will caucus with Democrats, but whatever) and Kansas.

crazy talk man. Jesus.

You didn’t even mention that your scenario requires holding onto Michigan, Minnesota, Georgia, and New Hampshire. Getting the senate to 50/50 with that map would be a huge win for Dems. They won’t get anywhere near the numbers you threw out.

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4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

crazy talk man. Jesus 

No it ain't, I'm telling y'all, the Republican Party is going to get annihilated next year.

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26 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

No it ain't, I'm telling y'all, the Republican Party is going to get annihilated next year.

Based on what? The president has always had dogshit approval and the senate map has remained.

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I haven't been paying attention to the political news lately, but I did just see the local news reporting that 8 Democrats broke with their party to end the government shutdown. Why was the Democratic Party shutting down the government?

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9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Based on what? The president has always had dogshit approval and the senate map has remained.

The electorate has changed, the electorate would currently give Democrats a senate majority, and its going to get bluer every day with Trump and MAGA in office. Donald Trump rebounded the first time around because the electorate liked his economy, they couldn't stand the man or his administration, this time everybody still can't stand him and his economy is dog shit. The economy isn't going to get any better next year.

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11 minutes ago, F250 said:

I haven't been paying attention to the political news lately, but I did just see the local news reporting that 8 Democrats broke with their party to end the government shutdown. Why was the Democratic Party shutting down the government?

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The electorate has changed, the electorate would currently give Democrats a senate majority, and its going to get bluer every day with Trump and MAGA in office. Donald Trump rebounded the first time around because the electorate liked his economy, they couldn't stand the man or his administration, this time everybody still can't stand him and his economy is dog shit. The economy isn't going to get any better next year.

Damn….you musta bruised your dick from jerking it that hard.
Jesus.
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2 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

The electorate has changed, the electorate would currently give Democrats a senate majority, and its going to get bluer every day with Trump and MAGA in office. Donald Trump rebounded the first time around because the electorate liked his economy, they couldn't stand the man or his administration, this time everybody still can't stand him and his economy is dog shit. The economy isn't going to get any better next year.

well if you feel strongly about it, you can win better than 2 to 1 odds on your money from all the major prediction markets as the GOP is a strong favorite to win the Senate. Interestingly the Dems are favored by about the same amount to win the House. 

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is one of the best posts in a long time. I don’t have kids (and won’t), so I’m just trying to skate til the end of my life before shit gets real real bad. Not looking great, considering I’m only 43, but my white male privilege might carry me longer than most. Good luck everybody else. I didn’t start this shit and actively fought against it for a decade. Now it’s me time. 

Holy shit this is fucking hilarious. I’d say all it’s missing is DD’s stamp of approval but like a moth to a dick flavored flame he has already given his stamp of approval. Weak. Pathetic. Cut my balls off before I ever post some shit like this.

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8 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

Ohio, Maine, North Carolina, Iowa, Texas, Florida, Alaska, Nebraska (technically an independent that will caucus with Democrats, but whatever) and Kansas. 

I think you're right to an extent. I expect Trump and Republicans to be historically unpopular a year from now because all the fascism and a crashed out economy. Still, putting Kansas in the win column because Dems won one statewide election in 2018 during a blue wave after Republicans had bankrupted the state is like counting on Alabama because of Doug Jones beating Roy Moore that one time. Susan Collins won comfortably in 2018 despite the blue wave. Nebraska, Ohio, Iowa, and Alaska haven't voted Dem statewide in I don't know when. I expect we might have a pleasant surprise out of one of those but no way we run the table. You also have to account for the high probability of unprecedented cheating by Republicans and the ineptitude of Democrats. All that if we even have elections. 

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I understand morally why some Dems might want to extend ACA subsidies, I don't understand politically why they'd want to (right now). I really don't understand why they'd want to extend them only 1 year - which would stave off the pain of increased premiums until post midterms. 

The Dems seemed to stumble into a good outcome - they shined a bright light on the fact that Rs are refusing to extend subsidies, without getting the subsidies extended.

This seems like a good political outcome ahead of the midterms when people who have freshly lost their insurance or been forced to pay out the ass for it are headed to the polls remembering Rs allowed the govt to be shut down rather than help. 

 

What an I missing?

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9 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

I understand morally why some Dems might want to extend ACA subsidies, I don't understand politically why they'd want to (right now).

It was window-dressing a justification and the one thing they (Dem Senators) could agree on.  Unfortunately, my preferred issue (corruption) doesn't have the same purchase with independent voters as they have abandoned all virtue in search of cheap eggs and beef.  

They also cannot de-escalate quietly given this was designed to grab attention in the first place, so it's hard to envision a realistic scenario in which many on the left aren't upset with the outcome (i.e., if we imagine the shut-down continues past Thanksgiving and the result is the GOP abandons the filibuster to pass the CR, does that change the sense among Dem voters that the shut-down was worth it?).  I would prefer that result, but I don't think it lessons criticism by much.  

 

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23 minutes ago, BillyBadAss said:

I understand morally why some Dems might want to extend ACA subsidies, I don't understand politically why they'd want to (right now). I really don't understand why they'd want to extend them only 1 year - which would stave off the pain of increased premiums until post midterms. 

The Dems seemed to stumble into a good outcome - they shined a bright light on the fact that Rs are refusing to extend subsidies, without getting the subsidies extended.

This seems like a good political outcome ahead of the midterms when people who have freshly lost their insurance or been forced to pay out the ass for it are headed to the polls remembering Rs allowed the govt to be shut down rather than help. 

 

What an I missing?

You're not missing anything.  The Senate Democrats played this to maximum cynicism.  And as a cynic myself, I appreciate it.

Plenty of Democratic voters and unrealistic expectations about what was achievable in this shutdown.  But realistically, very little was achievable through this (or really any) shutdown.  That should've been clear once it became evident that Republicans would starve Americans and crash the air-transit system.  Once that happened, it just became a game of maximizing blame on Trump and the GQP.

Is there a possible universe in which the Republicans cave and extend the ACA subsidies?  I mean, maybe.  Probably not.  But maybe.  But in that universe, it works to the GQP's electoral benefit.

And while there are plenty of us who would be happy to see the shutdown continue through the 2026 midterms . . . that wasn't realistic.  The political impact of that would've been highly unpredictable.  Right now, Trump is getting the blame.  But he has a larger microphone and a lot of corporate media at his back.  The narrative could've quickly swung.

So the Dems took their fairly modest winnings and went home.  I understand that move.  I don't particularly love it.  Maybe I kind of hate it.  But I definitely understand it.

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The optimism about the 2026 midterms is wrong, imo. The 2025 election success was in areas with a significant bent towards Democrats. Next year, the incompetency of the Democrats in messaging and actions will not win them enough votes to matter. 

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The handful of dem senators fully caved. I feel like they should have caved on Day 1. They created hardships for people and got zero in return.

Cruz and especially Cornyn would have started to feel the pressure when lines at Texas food banks became longer or flights were being cancelled.

If you don’t have the balls to win, then don’t start the game.

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16 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

But realistically, very little was achievable through this (or really any) shutdown.

 

I think nuking the filibuster was 100% achievable.

 

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If you don’t have the balls to win, then don’t start the game.

 

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12 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

The optimism about the 2026 midterms is wrong, imo. The 2025 election success was in areas with a significant bent towards Democrats. Next year, the incompetency of the Democrats in messaging and actions will not win them enough votes to matter. 

The 2025 election was a wake up call for the GOP.  There won't be a 2026 midterm election. At least not one that conforms to past election rules. They now know they can easily lose. They won't let that happen.

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11 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

No it ain't, I'm telling y'all, the Republican Party is going to get annihilated next year.

In the softball game?

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The different media diets that people have is just maddening.  Maybe the absolute smartest person I know, who considers himself a "centrist", blamed the Democrats for the shut down because they "had no leverage".  I have a hard time explaining politics to people sometimes because I just get so god damn frustrated, but I feel Jon Stewart did it really well here, so I sent this to my buddy.  Whether he watches it or not, who knows.

 

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10 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

This is the only spin I would accept

But that’s not what they did. 

And Trump is still trying to starve families.  It also gives Democrats a path to fight again in three months, when SNAP isn't in jeopardy.  

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15 hours ago, Red Five said:

If you want to feel old, she's probably pushing 40 now.

So she’s in her prime?  

51 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

The optimism about the 2026 midterms is wrong, imo. The 2025 election success was in areas with a significant bent towards Democrats. Next year, the incompetency of the Democrats in messaging and actions will not win them enough votes to matter. 

Stop internalizing Republican framing. 

40 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Democrats are simply worthless wimps. 

They are, but they won this shutdown. 

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22 minutes ago, South Austin said:

The Democrats will give up a game-winning walk-off homer in the bottom of the 9th.

More like walk off grand slam while up 3. 

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8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

Stop internalizing Republican framing. 

Expecting the Dems to suck at politics and fuck it up like they always do is Republican framing?

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A lot of Trumpers/GOP/LOLbertarians believe in a very limited and small government. And they were about to finally get a real taste of what that feels like. Chaos was coming. The air travel situation was gonna get so ugly that no one could deny the disaster. Instead the Dems say "never mind!" and back to business as usual. Fucking idiots. 

 

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I know exactly no one that thinks the dems did the right thing. Moderates, conservatives, liberals, everyone I know thinks this was the wrong move both politically (even GOPers admit that they were fucked) and the wrong move morally (shut down could have been avoided altogether and now a bunch of shit is fucked up for no reason) 

Its legitimately the worst possible outcome for dems. 

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

A lot of Trumpers/GOP/LOLbertarians believe in a very limited and small government. And they were about to finally get a real taste of what that feels like. Chaos was coming. The air travel situation was gonna get so ugly that no one could deny the disaster. Instead the Dems say "never mind!" and back to business as usual. Fucking idiots. 

Our nearly trillion dollar defense budget, vast corporate welfare state, and increasingly intrusive law enforcement apparatus notwithstanding. Oh, and let's not forget the unborn and non-Christians out there.

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I know exactly no one that thinks the dems did the right thing. Moderates, conservatives, liberals, everyone I know thinks this was the wrong move both politically (even GOPers admit that they were fucked) and the wrong move morally (shut down could have been avoided altogether and now a bunch of shit is fucked up for no reason) 

Its legitimately the worst possible outcome for dems. 

The good news is, it will be forgotten until we do it all again after this CR funding runs out.

So, there's that.

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47 minutes ago, South Austin said:

The Democrats will give up a game-winning walk-off homer in the bottom of the 9th.

 

24 minutes ago, immamac said:

More like walk off grand slam while up 3. 

They'd trade four IBBs for two opened bottles out of a six pack, and crow that it was the right thing to do for the sport. 

Posted
16 hours ago, David Dennison said:

 

That's the point.

We should thank him. The optics that were blurred by the eight Democratic Senators folding just regained a bit of focus - the GOP is still taking away your healthcare.

And the senile man baby says he’s gonna give everyone money and they can pay for their healthcare with that because we don’t need insurance companies.    (Cletus, somewhere: “Dang, I’m purty healthy since I’ve been eaten the horse paste, so I’m gonna buy a bigger boat for the Trump parade!”)

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15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The good news is, it will be forgotten until we do it all again after this CR funding runs out.

So, there's that.

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12 hours ago, Zonahorn said:

No polling from Iowa, but senator Ernst already retired instead of running for re-election, something has her scared.

Maybe the crackpot that had the Harris +9 Iowa poll four days before the election scared her off?



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