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4 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Whatever happened to the "You voted for this, so GOOD!" leopard eating faces energy? Was that just our Brat Summer? Time to get all sentimental with the leaves changing colors?

Dude you operate in bad faith.  I hadn’t put you on ignore but it’s clear you have no moral core.

Posted
3 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't think Vegas is animal tobacco. 

Me neither.  Vegas is actually consistently center to center-right (in the traditional sense).  Animal Tobacco and Swam were nutjobs.

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Posted
1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Bear in mind that:

  • Johnson continues to refuse to allow a duly elected Democrat from Arizona to take her seat and
  • Abbott refuses to hold an election for another one.

Republican legislatures across the country are:

  • Redistricting mid-decade to gerrymander to make their state delegations to Congress less representative of the will of the people and
  • Enacting (or have enacted) multiple additional schemes to disenfranchise marginalized communities.

The only morally, ethically, or politically correct response to their anti-democratic moves is to oppose and obstruct on all fronts.


From a game theory stance, the republicans have gone full defection, escalation, false signaling, and dominant strategy play, then any play by the democrats to ‘preserve the system’ or cooperation guarantees a loss.

There is no scenario with Republican tactics where democracy lives.

Our system is therefore dead no matter what. Democrats only play is to win at all costs and then hope to rebuild a system that closely resembles a system that you were previously trying to preserve. 
So there must be an escalating tit for tat with assured enforcement with a credible threat of retaliation.

The only play is to not play their game. Do not give them any votes on anything. AT ALL.

 

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Posted (edited)

“The GOP controls the Senate, the House, the Presidency, and the Supreme Court.  Anything wrong with the function of the federal government is THEIR FAULT, and it’s not debatable.  If folks want the way the government is operating to change, they should vote accordingly in November 2026.” - the fucking ONLY thing any democrat should be saying when asked about any current political issue 

 

Dems need to quit making any attempt to keep these dumb motherfuckers in charge from flying the fucking plane into the fucking mountain.  An economic depression might be the only way to cure this shit.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:


From a game theory stance, the republicans have gone full defection, escalation, false signaling, and dominant strategy play, then any play by the democrats to ‘preserve the system’ or cooperation guarantees a loss.

There is no scenario with Republican tactics where democracy lives.

Our system is therefore dead no matter what. Democrats only play is to win at all costs and then hope to rebuild a system that closely resembles a system that you were previously trying to preserve. 
So there must be an escalating tit for tat with assured enforcement with a credible threat of retaliation.

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What I've been saying for a decade now.

Once someone has opted OUT of the Rule of Law and norms, there is no play -- none, not a single one -- within the Rule of Law and norms that is a winning play.  AND, once once side has opted out of the Rule of Law and norms, then those things are over.

Since we're living a wrestling kayfabe, once one side starts swinging chairs grabbed from ringside, any "legit wrestling" is over.  It's now a chair-swinging fight, completely outside all rules and norms. 

All that is left is to (1) win at all costs, (2) impose crippling punishment/sanctions to destroy the offenders once you have the power to do so, then (3) reconstruct the institutions of a democratic republic the best you can.  But with better guardrails and failsafes this time.  Knowing that nothing is perfect.

And at this point, all options are shitty.  But you best grab a fucking chair and start swinging if you want to survive.

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