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17 hours ago, Red Five said:


He even said that some Chinese are coming to America, and that’s good. Which is odd, because I thought we were full.

 

17 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, they tend to run on the small side.

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13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think it's pretty sound reasoning to assume that there is a tax rate where revenue is maximized.  It's not 0% and it's not 100%.  

The problem is that the supply side twats always assume that rate is somewhere below whatever the current rate is.

The problem is the supply side twats always assume that if you make rich people richer they will give their incremental wealth to their employees when instead they put it in a hedge fund or buy an airplane. The laffer curve conveniently leaves human greed out of their equation.    

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5 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

The problem is the supply side twats always assume that if you make rich people richer they will give their incremental wealth to their employees when instead they put it in a hedge fund or buy an airplane. The laffer curve conveniently leaves human greed out of their equation.    

Which is another way of saying "they're often wrong about where that optimal tax rate is relative to the current tax rate".

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

She’s hideous and I would absolutely have sex with her.

 

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

she looks like she's spent 90% of her adult life in a dingy bar chain smoking reds and drinking vodka on the rocks.

probably would.

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These guys.....these guys know what's up.

46 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

The Laffer curve is the bone spur of fiscal responsibility. 

Oh, BRAH-VO.  That's solid.

And yeah, as for the Laffer Curve....it sure as shit seemed like a sound hypothesis back in the day.  Lots of people bought into it.  Hell, I did, 30 years ago or so.  Made sense, I thought.

But then we tried it out.  Several times, as it turned out.  And each time, the result was a giant runny shit sandwich.  Seriously, every time I see these folks post the various versions of their socialism memes:

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I can't help but laugh (laff).  We have multiple real-world examples of the Laffer Curve approach, in recent decades, right here in the US of A, utterly falling on their face.  But THIS TIME....this time, fellas, it will work.  Because this time, we gots us a certified BRAIN GENIUS to implement it   Yessiree.....this time, it's totally gonna work....

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2 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

To be fair, Kellyanne looks like she was probably decent looking in her past life.  She probably went down hill when they reanimated her corpse and stuck the current brain in there. 

She looks like D'onofrio in Men in Black when the bug wears his body as a suit. 

Hard pass

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35 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s just one big grift folks.  Don’t be surprised when he resigns at the last second for health reasons and makes off with the cash.  

The day you hit on one of these I'm throwing a party in your honor. 

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It is one big grift tho... depends on how bad the numbers are if he bows out before the election.  He doesn’t want to lose and he wants as much pardon action as he can get.  

 A gracefully resigned Trump is still a powerful force in the GOP.  A loser Trump is also but not as much as undefeated Trump. 

The GOP wants Trump around too but not as president I’d imagine. 

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11 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It is one big grift tho... depends on how bad the numbers are if he bows out before the election.  He doesn’t want to lose and he wants as much pardon action as he can get.  

 A gracefully resigned Trump is still a powerful force in the GOP.  A loser Trump is also but not as much as undefeated Trump. 

The GOP wants Trump around too but not as president I’d imagine. 

he's gone 72 years without showing grace, but i think it's adorable you think he'll start now.

no chance he resigns.

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Just now, henrygandorf said:

he's gone 72 years without showing grace, but i think it's adorable you think he'll start now.

no chance he resigns.

He runs away all the time.  Why did he payoff Stormy Daniels?  Why did he settle the Trump University case?  Why does he repeatedly obstruct justice?  He is a man on the run and he will always be on the run until someone offers him a way out. 

Do you think Trump’s quality of life right now is desirable?  He probably hates the job of the presidency.  It’s obvious he just wants to stir shit up on Twitter and watch himself on cable news all day.  He doesn’t need to be president to do that.   

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4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

He runs away all the time.  Why did he payoff Stormy Daniels?  Why did he settle the Trump University case?  Why does he repeatedly obstruct justice?  He is a man on the run and he will always be on the run until someone offers him a way out. 

Do you think Trump’s quality of life right now is desirable?  He probably hates the job of the presidency.  It’s obvious he just wants to stir shit up on Twitter and watch himself on cable news all day.  He doesn’t need to be president to do that.   

i wouldn't call that "running away".  he buys himself out of trouble using money, power, and manipulation of the system.  stormy daniels was hush money, not sure how that's "running away."  even on cases he's "settled" i guarantee you he would never admit he was wrong or "lost" the case.

resigning is admitting defeat and taking the loss.  not something he would ever ever do.

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38 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It is one big grift tho... depends on how bad the numbers are if he bows out before the election.  He doesn’t want to lose and he wants as much pardon action as he can get.  

You continue to attempt to apply normal psychology to an abnormal test subject.  There is simply no way for us to predict what this nutjob will do in 20 minutes, much less 20 months.

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He runs away all the time.  Why did he payoff Stormy Daniels?  Why did he settle the Trump University case?  Why does he repeatedly obstruct justice?  He is a man on the run and he will always be on the run until someone offers him a way out. 
Do you think Trump’s quality of life right now is desirable?  He probably hates the job of the presidency.  It’s obvious he just wants to stir shit up on Twitter and watch himself on cable news all day.  He doesn’t need to be president to do that.   
I used to think he didn't like it. Now I'm not sure. He's been able to get away with just about anything. He plays golf on the public dime, attends State dinners, spews his shit a couple times a month at one of his rallies to cheering crowds to stroke his ego, can call into Fox News anytime he wants to be sucked off, I'd say he's enjoying it and won't relinquish it willingly.

And honestly, what work is he really doing? His stature now has finally helped his business and bottom line.
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Yep, the Mexicans are still going to pay, according to Trump.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-31/trump-sees-mexico-tariffs-as-financing-his-promised-border-wall?srnd=premium

 

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President Donald Trump is determined to impose the 5% tariff he’s threatened against Mexican imports and sees it as a way to help fund construction of the border wall he promised during his campaign, people familiar with the matter said.

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Trump plans to portray the move as making Mexico pay for the wall -- part of his signature 2016 pledge, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity. While Trump has repeatedly argued that the countries he penalizes bear the cost of tariffs, it’s U.S. importers that pay the duties and some of that gets passed to consumers in the form of higher prices.

The move -- prepared by a small group within the White House and tightly kept -- has stoked divisions among senior officials, two people familiar with the matter said. U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer was among those stridently against the decision over concerns it would doom the USMCA trade accord with Mexico and Canada that needs to be approved by the nations’ legislatures.

 

 

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so if tariff money is going to pay for the wall, then the wall will essentially be paid for by us companies?  and those us companies will reimburse themselves by charging higher prices for their goods?  so basically, the us consumers will be paying for the wall?

whoa whoa whoa.  this was not what i was told.

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