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1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Calling my shot here.  Lincoln Riley.  

The timing matches up.  (Their last game is this Saturday.)  Dan Lanning's timeline does not match up.  Also, why the abrupt firing now and not the end of the season.  LR will take it because it'll be his last big pay day.  He can't recruit at SC and he'll figure the NIL Aggy game will help him out there.

That'll be $9.95.

Wait - you think LR will swap his bags of dicks for jizz jars?

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22 minutes ago, Danimal said:

Considering that the full price of the decision to hire and fire Jimbo will exceed $100m, it's incredible to think about the opportunity costs not only for a&m, but also for the donors.  

ROI is obviously not be a consideration at all for the aggies.

The only thing that makes sense for a&m's next move, based on how they behave, is that they will essentially double down on the next move in a hope to "atone" for their mistakes to make it all worth it (however they define value; there definitely isn't going to be any form of a NPV calc near this decision).

I expect a massive budget for the next coach and staff, and massive budget on recruits/transfers, at least in year 1. 

100% this. Imagine the crazy concessions you could get them to agree to now that they have to actually have to follow through with a plan of action. If I was a hotshot coach, off the top of my head I'd probably ask for:

- $250M/10 years, payable up front
- Two national championship trophies to be presented at my coronation
- Mandate that the aggy band follow me around everywhere on campus playing "Move Bitch"
- Replace the bidet in the coaches private bathroom with Billy Liucci (I wouldn't actually want that clown licking my asshole, but the idea of him agreeing it to it would be too good to pass up)
 
And once it was all agreed to in writing, I'd just get a raise from my current school and stop answering Bjork's calls. 

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2 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Just saw this comment from an aggy reader on an Athletic article, where they're arguing about whether Oregon or aggy has more money:

 

Phil Knight is worth over $40 billion.  $75 million to a guy like Knight is a rounding error.

If Phil Knight wants you to stay, he absolutely has the cash to make it happen.

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3 minutes ago, kevwun said:

They are really proud of how much money they are lighting on fire.  It's funny as shit.

This paired with the fact with they only have money they can steal from something else enough to afford the first 2 payments and have no plan to come up with 7M+ every year after that for 7 years is fucking hilarious.

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2 hours ago, Ten Bears said:

I've lived my whole life in Texas and have never stepped foot in College Station or Brazos County for that matter. 

 

I've been to Rockdale though.

The last time I was there was Thanksgiving 2005.  I thought it was a great place to catch a Longhorn game. 

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49 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

*Their

We should tell the ESG cocksmokers to sit and spin but we also should not export oil from Texas to any of these other pansy states or nations.

*ESG = Environmental, Social, and Governance

The real ESG is Everyday Street Gangsta and he is cool as shit and excluded from this discussion.

That's not how commodities work.  They are fungible.  It does not matter whether it is exported or not the global demand and production sets the price.  Unless you are against capitalism and free markets and want to go with a state run economy.

But you missed the point that the Saudi's have oil and make money selling it and the signs say we should not buy oil from the Saudis but I guess the same people that put up the sign are happy taking "their" money to advance Texum aggy football.

 

Edit:  But then TAMC Athletics is playing shell games with the money to buy out Jimbo's contract so they know the whole fungible thing.

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Just now, Rockethorn1978 said:

Where is this “aggy has the most money” shit coming from? Just saw finebaum say aggy could buy bama, auburn and Florida and that Texas is second on most money? 

It comes from them being the ones willing to waste the most money.

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2 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Where is this “aggy has the most money” shit coming from? Just saw finebaum say aggy could buy bama, auburn and Florida and that Texas is second on most money? 

Apparently they are getting it from the Middle East oil countries.

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Saw that some WVU fans want Jimbo to "go home" to coach for them. They could pay him $100 a year to troll aggy.

I expect Gus Mahlzahn would be high on aggy's list. As far as I can tell he's the best coach to ever coach in the history of coaching. 

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6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Saw that some WVU fans want Jimbo to "go home" to coach for them. They could pay him $100 a year to troll aggy. 

I don’t think WVU can afford it. 

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11 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Where is this “aggy has the most money” shit coming from? Just saw finebaum say aggy could buy bama, auburn and Florida and that Texas is second on most money? 

These guys exist for you to react just like that.  Just say whatever as long as it causes controversy and provokes someone.  He's just a penis-shaped Stephen A. Smith for racists.

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28 minutes ago, markstanco said:

The last time I was there was Thanksgiving 2005.  I thought it was a great place to catch a Longhorn game. 

Same! I was over by the temporary seats. I had a grand time.

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5 hours ago, TejasPedro said:

Major Applewhite?

Oh please please please please please sweet baby Jesus make this happen.

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1 hour ago, pearlandhorn said:

I was thinking about Matt Rhule earlier.  Dude can coach and knows offensive line which is their biggest weakness (well, one of them at least).

They should go straight to the OL whisperer then.

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All I've got to say is this: No matter who they choose, (unless they gamble on a coordinator/G5 coach) if they go back to a sane, normal P5 coach contract it will seem like an insult to whoever it is that accepts.

They made such a loud, bombastic "hey look at us, we rollin in money ya'll!" Bfd when they hired Jimbo. Will they show humility this time?

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48 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Just saw this comment from an aggy reader on an Athletic article, where they're arguing about whether Oregon or aggy has more money:

 

yeah, Phil Knight has no history of incredibly huge $$$ given to Oregon.

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Powered by a historic $500 million gift from Phil and Penny Knight that launched a new science campus, the University of Oregon amassed a record-breaking $695 million in donations for the 2017 fiscal year

also he's entering the Jerry Jones window of "want to win a championship before i die" and may just not give a damn.

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4 minutes ago, NoName said:

yeah, Phil Knight has no history of incredibly huge $$$ given to Oregon.

also he's entering the Jerry Jones window of "want to win a championship before i die" and may just not give a damn.

Maybe that was mostly from Penny

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4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Just had a flashback to doing media...every college football stadium I ever went to had a buffet for the press...except Kyle Field, which had an actual concession stand in the press box (likely because they sold unused media seats to old people, so you'd have these old men cheering in the press box when aggy did something, and then the aggy SID would give these men a stern warning [loudly enough for media to hear] that there will be no cheering in the press area and then they'd do the same thing the next time aggy scored) and your media packet for the game had a 2 tickets like this in it:

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and you could choose how you wanted to spend them at the concession stand.  

Anyways, it just dawned on me -- aggy is going to try to pay Jimbo with these:

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He's getting in on the ground floor.

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2 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Calling my shot here.  Lincoln Riley.  

The timing matches up.  (Their last game is this Saturday.)  Dan Lanning's timeline does not match up.  Also, why the abrupt firing now and not the end of the season.  LR will take it because it'll be his last big pay day.  He can't recruit at SC and he'll figure the NIL Aggy game will help him out there.

That'll be $9.95.

except that SC is a significantly better, easier and guaranteed job. he has a great QB room there vs whatever shitshow he walks into at A&M, he has the inside scoop to the school/program via Henson and who would rather live in College Station than the greater LA area? you think his wife is going to be fine w/ that considering they just got out of the shithole that is Norman?

"can't recruit at SC" - you think it's harder to recruit to Southern Cal than it is to OU? lol

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31 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Where is this “aggy has the most money” shit coming from? Just saw finebaum say aggy could buy bama, auburn and Florida and that Texas is second on most money? 

Probably from Uncle Nate.  Just like the story that Manziel's family had so much money he didn't need to take any under the table.

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1 minute ago, Dry Elbows said:

Probably from Uncle Nate.  Just like the story that Manziel's family had so much money he didn't need to take any under the table.

That was a stroke of genius btw. Totally took the spotlight off of him. 

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3 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

How does John Sharpe and Bjork still have jobs today?    You'd think the head of the aggy BOR would've called Sharpe yesterday and said it's time for you to think about seriously retiring .

Yeah, this on top of the aggy journalism fiasco that cost the school $1M settlement to Kathleen McElroy, that institution is having a bang-up year!

 

2 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

His schtick would play so much better in college.

 

but he’d be an idiot to leave Detroit… but considering he is aggy, maybe he would?

The dude has never had to program build or recruit or deal with transfer portals and NIL -- yeah, he's sticking in the NFL

 

2 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

I always thought Dollar Bill Byrne was a tool until Bjork was hired.    My gosh what an arrogant prick.

Bill Byrne is a massive tool. Period.

 

2 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

A motivated Mack Brown would kill it at ATM.

 

 

I don’t see him leaving the stud QB he has at UNC though.

Drake Maye will be playing on Sundays next season.

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On NPR, they said no public money would be used to pay the buy out. How the fuck is that possible? They may make a couple of payments using donor money but they are eventually going to need to use institutional funds or do funky accounting that makes it look like it not institional money. They are lying liars.

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On NPR, they said no public money would be used to pay the buy out. How the fuck is that possible? They may make a couple of payments using donor money but they are eventually going to need to use institutional funds or do funky accounting that makes it look like it not institional money. They are lying liars.

Athletic Department is separate from the University and the 12th foundation just gave the AD a check for $160m.
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4 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

On NPR, they said no public money would be used to pay the buy out. How the fuck is that possible? They may make a couple of payments using donor money but they are eventually going to need to use institutional funds or do funky accounting that makes it look like it not institional money. They are lying liars.

I'm beginning to think my prediction is going to come true: they're simply not going to pay it.

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From yesterday; not directed solely at A&M or Jimbo, but good read:

https://theathletic.com/5056968/2023/11/12/jimbo-fisher-buyout-college-coaches/

 

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When I die, I want to come back to earth as a college football coaching agent.

Forget Alabama versus Chattanooga or Brett Yormark versus George Kliavkoff. There is no more lopsided contest in this sport than Jimmy Sexton versus SEC athletic directors. He and his ilk have done a masterful job of exploiting schools’ emotion-driven coaching searches and amateurish negotiators to the tune of hundreds of millions in their clients’ bank accounts, whether they’re successful or whether they fail spectacularly.

 

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Texas A&M fired Jimbo Fisher on Sunday, invoking what was universally derided at the time as the sport’s most lopsided contract, one that will cost a staggering $77 million in guaranteed buyout money. Fisher earned $75 million before he even coached a game, then got a new $90 million deal — also fully guaranteed — following a 9-1 record in the weird and deceiving 2020 season.

Three seasons and a 19-15 record later, he will be paid a sum greater than a Mountain West school’s entire athletics budget and let someone else make gobs of money chasing glory.

 

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An econ professor or Fortune 500 CEO would probably find the college football coaching market hilariously inefficient. The schools often negotiate against themselves, paying a coach far more than it would actually take for him to come there or stay there mostly because others are doing the same. They rush to lock themselves into stratospheric obligations to guys not named Kirby Smart or Nick Saban, then go begging for donations when they somehow can’t balance their budgets.

Texas A&M might be the most recognizable offender, but it’s not like other schools haven’t done the same thing.

 

Spoiler

Two years ago, Penn State gave James Franklin a 10-year, $85 million contract amid speculation that USC maybe, possibly might try to steal him away after the season. On Saturday, Nittany Lions fans mercilessly booed Franklin as he walked through the tunnel exiting Beaver Stadium after yet another loss to a top-10 opponent. This would normally be a time when the school stopped to consider whether someone else might be better equipped to lead the Nittany Lions to Big Ten championships, except it would cost the school $65 million to send him packing.

Around that same time, Michigan State gave Mel Tucker his infamous $95 million deal less than two years into his tenure. Two years later, the Spartans are terrible, and if Tucker hadn’t sabotaged his employment, the school would still be on the hook for roughly $80 million of it.

Despite the fact roughly half of coaches wind up getting fired eventually, nobody ever thinks their coach will be one of them, so nobody stops to consider whether committing so much money to one person is a financially prudent move. Clemson gave Dabo Swinney the biggest contract in college sports history — 10 years, $115 million — last year. At the time, throwing that much money at a two-time national championship coach probably made all the sense in the world, but a year later, Clemson is 6-4, enduring its worst season in 13 years. No one would rationally suggest the school should fire him for it, but what if things don’t get better over the next couple of years?

But also: Who exactly was Clemson competing with when it gave Dabo that monstrous contract? Did it think he was going to leave for another job if it gave him only $105 million instead of $115 million?

And it’s not just the blue bloods making rash and financially prohibitive deals.

Long-suffering Indiana was so elated that Tom Allen led the Hoosiers to a No. 12 ranking in 2020 — with a 6-2 record, mind you — that it gave him an incredibly one-sided new contract. Understandably concerned that a more prestigious program might pluck him away, it put in a clause that he would owe 50 percent back were he to leave prior to the 2022 season, but after that just $4 million. But IU, of course, owes the full amount (currently $20.8 million) if it wants to let go of a coach who is 9-25 since signing the deal.

 

Prior to Sunday, that $20.8 million figure would have been the second-highest buyout on record, trailing only Auburn’s $21.45 million payout to Gus Malzahn after the 2020 season. But Texas A&M just broke that record by roughly 259 percent, and now, much how that school normalized gigantic guaranteed contracts when it hired Jimbo, it will likely open the floodgates to other schools paying previously unheard-of buyouts.

On the list of world problems, football coaches getting enormous buyouts is not remotely close to the top of the list. Even within college athletics, there are more pressing concerns, like a multibillion dollar suit against the NCAA and the Power 5 conferences arguing athletes deserve a share of TV revenue, and multiple cases involving the threat of athletes being classified as employees.

However, these horribly negotiated coaching contracts go hand in hand with the other issues. In the months and years to come, you will hear no shortage of administrators in courtrooms and in the media decrying all the negative consequences sure to come if the NCAA model changes — non-revenue sports being cut, women’s athletes being marginalized, etc.

Yet any plaintiff’s attorney could easily look at the USA Today coaches salary database and say … really? Do you think perhaps the reason you’re going broke is because you’re paying people well into eight figures only to vanish from your payroll?

The only way this trend is ever going to stop, though, is if the schools start exercising some common-sense restraint in their negotiations. It might mean that — brace yourself — sometimes a school’s No. 1 choice might be to say no. And that’s OK. Sometimes the less-obvious guy winds up faring better than the big-splash guy. See: Arizona’s Jedd Fisch, who took over a disaster of a program and has it ranked in the top 20 in his third year.

It might mean that sometimes the guy doing very well opts to leave for another school because his current one won’t give in to this agent’s completely unreasonable salary ask and umpteen demands about facilities improvements and whatnot. And, with the exception of the top five or so coaches in the country, that’s OK, too.

But the current market is just ludicrously one-sided, with no sign of letting up.

Being a college athletic director can be a fun job with a seven-figure salary and lots of perks.

But I’d much rather be on the other side of the table from one.

 

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