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14 hours ago, Goredho said:

MAGA thinks falling asleep at your own trial means your cool as a cucumber.

I just wish his body temperature was actually that of a cucumber.

I'd bet my entire portfolio of DJT stock that "cucumber" is not a word that will appear in Stormy Daniels' testimony.

 

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

His first wife was also his cousin.

This is what you get when cousins fuck:

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26 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Kind of crazy how an ex-president can be so objectively wrong about everything he talks about.

"I was told I could have three judges! And I could pick them! And I was PROMISED the trial could take place by the pool at Mar-a-lago!"

And don't forget, catered by McDonalds.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

. . . and just like that, one third of the country now believes criminal defense lawyers get unlimited juror strikes.

Oh Jerry, all these big deal defense attorneys...they strike down everybody.  

-Donald, you don't even know what a jury strike is, do you?  

No...but they do.  And they're the ones striking down the jurors.  Unlimited, giddy-up...  

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56 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Kind of crazy how an ex-president can be so objectively wrong about everything he talks about.

"I was told I could have three judges! And I could pick them! And I was PROMISED the trial could take place by the pool at Mar-a-lago!"

Even crazier that he can blast this BS out to his disciples and they lap it up as gospel.

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1 hour ago, Superhero said:

 


Well since we’re posting pictures from My Cousin Vinny. May I present the lovely Mona Lisa Vito.

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Assignment: construct a conditional sentence using the words "eat", "peanuts", "out of", "her", "shit."

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3 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Assignment: construct a conditional sentence using the words "eat", "peanuts", "out of", "her", "shit."

 

3 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Assignment: construct a conditional sentence using the words "eat", "peanuts", "out of", "her", "shit."

 

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I also like how Trump put "unlimited" in quotation marks like he got cut off from breadsticks at Olive Garden because he left the premises to go to Burger King and then came back for more breadsticks.  There's a John Pinetta joke in there somewhere.  

also, we know he may very well get convicted on a lot of this stuff but will never see the inside of a jail cell.  But to game it out, since the Secret Service never thought this could happen in a thousand years...what would his cell situation be?  Obviously he would not be placed in GenPop, he'd have a solitary cell.  But would an agent be in there with him at all times?  Or would two stand guard outside?  What's the protocol on having non-prison personnel packing heavy weapons inside a federal or state prison?  What's to stop 50 inmates from bum-rushing them all at once to grab their carry?  

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15 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I also like how Trump put "unlimited" in quotation marks like he got cut off from breadsticks at Olive Garden because he left the premises to go to Burger King and then came back for more breadsticks.  There's a John Pinetta joke in there somewhere.  

also, we know he may very well get convicted on a lot of this stuff but will never see the inside of a jail cell.  But to game it out, since the Secret Service never thought this could happen in a thousand years...what would his cell situation be?  Obviously he would not be placed in GenPop, he'd have a solitary cell.  But would an agent be in there with him at all times?  Or would two stand guard outside?  What's the protocol on having non-prison personnel packing heavy weapons inside a federal or state prison?  What's to stop 50 inmates from bum-rushing them all at once to grab their carry?  

 

Well, if he ever is convicted in a federal court, I believe Federal prisons are considered secure facilities.  Hays State Prison in Georgia?  Not so much.

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

I'd bet my entire portfolio of DJT stock that "cucumber" is not a word that will appear in Stormy Daniels' testimony.

 

This is what you get when cousins fuck:

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Also this

 

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48 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I also like how Trump put "unlimited" in quotation marks like he got cut off from breadsticks at Olive Garden because he left the premises to go to Burger King and then came back for more breadsticks.  There's a John Pinetta joke in there somewhere.  

That’s all your strikes, fat boy! 

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Just now, Longhorn94 said:

you have just described every person i have ever know who comes from a privileged background.

It really is amazing how lacking in self awareness people who come from generational wealth are. I consider myself a lucky SOB to have been born into a situation where I never had to worry about money growing up and, for that reason, I want others to be able raise their families in the same way.

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23 minutes ago, royiv said:

For someone that has been afforded every single possible privilege in this country, he’s the got the biggest persecution complex and hates the systems that have afforded him the aforementioned privilege.

This.  I got the initial allure to his followers of "Strong, Alpha Male taking on the Establishment"  I knew it was bullshit, but I knew they were craving it.  But since his first impeachment, until now, ~5 years.  It's just been 5 years of bitching and moaning like a child.  Yeah, he still peppers in some insults and threats and moronic charm.  But the bulk of his messaging is "Poor me, look at me, I've been wronged.  And for 12 easy installments of $19.95, you can help me find my smile again..."  

6 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

you have just described every person i have ever know who comes from a privileged background.

I did not come from one at all.  But I work with a lot of family offices on myriad deals.  And I've noticed, across hundreds that I've met with and dozens we've worked with, the children are categorically into a binary outcome.  Either the kids just coast on the name/money and usually piss most of it away on stupid shit.  Or they stake out completely on their own outside the family business/portfolio and cut their teeth for a couple decades doing something else, geographically far away from the core family.  I've really never met anybody in the middle.  The guy who still uses the family plane, serves on the SFO investment committee, owns an unrelated small business, saves his own money, etc.  I know they exist, but 99% of the ones I meet fall into one of the other two camps.  

And as usual, in this analysis---Trump remains unique.  Leveraged the name, partied with girls with the money, kinda-sorta 'ran' the organization, pissed away most it on bad deals he thought were great, and decided to make his own name as an author and gameshow host.  He kind of embodies all three buckets and has failed spectacularly at each.  And how did we reward him?  Making him leader of the Free World.  There's gotta be 100 different heirs kicking themselves for not thinking to run for President with their family money, besides Connor Roy.  

The Trump family also stands uniquely alone in that they are the only "billionaire" family to not have an MFO/SFO.  They claim that their family office is comprised of investment returns recycled into new real estate/golf/hospitality ventures.  so yeah, they don't even know what a family office means.  Yet another thing he never felt at home about in elite Manhattan circles because he didn't even understand the fundamentals.  And another reason he's been lashing out on us and whining to them for the last 50 years.  "Yeah, we've got a family office too.  It's an office down the hall where I work and eat taco bowls.  And Eric and Junior and Ivanka are down to the right of me in their offices.  We're a family.  In offices.  Doing tremendous deals."  

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Trump has an unusual request on trial Day 1

 

A trial as described by those in the room. Without live or even taped audio or video, the play-by-play was relayed to the outside world by those few reporters actually inside the courtroom.

CNN’s Kara Scannell and Jeremy Herb fed information from the court that ultimately made its way to the rest of us.

The first order of business in state court in Manhattan is to begin jury selection, a process anticipated to take as long as two weeks. The trial itself, which will take place on weekdays except Wednesdays, could stretch to two full months.

Of the first group of 96 potential jurors who crammed into the courtroom, more than half were immediately excused for saying they could not be fair and impartial.

Trump wants to take part in sidebars, which could put him very close to jurors. According to Scannell, defendants rarely get involved in sidebars with judges during jury selection, but Trump’s attorneys have indicated he will want to be involved, either approaching the bench or in a side room. This is a rare request.

“I have covered about two dozen trials, and I can’t remember one time the defendant opted to go up to the bench as the judge and the attorneys are asking questions of the potential juror,” Scannell said on CNN during a midday courtroom break. “So, this is really remarkable to me that he is choosing to do that, and he will be eye-to-eye with these potential jurors in close proximity as they answer questions.”

Searching for 18 impartial people. Ultimately, the field of jurors needs to be winnowed down to 12 jurors and six alternates. Around 500 jurors are expected to be called during each day of jury selection, and Scannell said the court would begin vetting about 100 potential jurors at a time in the courtroom.

They will be asked some general questions like whether they have an unbreakable commitment, need a religious exemption or don’t feel they can be impartial.

What does impartial mean? It’s ridiculous to think jurors would not have heard of Trump or even have opinions about him. He is, after all, one of the most famous people in the world.

Anybody so ignorant of world events so as to not have an impression of Trump would probably not be fit to serve on a jury anyway, writes Jeffrey Abramson, author of “We, The Jury: The Jury System and the Ideal of Democracy.”

“An open mind does not require an empty mind,” Abramson argues in a piece for CNN Opinion as he explains the process known as “voir dire.”

“We can find fair jurors who understand the difference between law and politics,” Abramson adds, noting that Trump has already faced New York juries who found him liable in civil cases related to defamation and sexual abuse of E. Jean Carroll, a former magazine columnist who said Trump raped her in a department store in 1996, although Trump denies the claim.

A Manhattan jury also found Trump’s business, the Trump Organization, guilty of tax evasion, although Trump was not personally named in that case.

The jurors will remain anonymous, but Abramson argues both sides in the case need to “sketch a personality profile of each potential juror.” A person with military training, for instance, who values loyalty might be a better juror for Trump, whereas someone who admires whistleblowers might be a better juror for the government, he writes.

What will jurors hear? At one point, Judge Juan Merchan read off the names of more than 40 people who could feature in the trial. Potential witnesses range from former Trump aides like Kellyanne Conway and Rudy Giuliani to the women who allege they had affairs with Trump: Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.

CNN’s Kaanita Iyer has a rundown of the key players.

And here is an excellent visual timeline of the entire hush money scandal.

Much of the morning centered on questions about what evidence Merchan will allow jurors to hear.

The judge, per Scannell and Herb’s feeds, will allow:

►Testimony from McDougal – She’s the former Playboy Playmate whose story of her alleged affair with Trump was bought by the National Enquirer with the intention of killing it before the 2016 election. But Merchan will not allow testimony about McDougal’s allegation that the affair was conducted while Trump’s wife, Melania, was pregnant and after she gave birth to their son Barron. That kind of testimony, Merchan said, could prejudice the jury against Trump.

►National Enquirer stories attacking Trump’s opponents – Prosecutors say Trump was involved in approving these stories.

Merchan will not allow:

►The infamous “Access Hollywood” tape – It included vulgar language from Trump, and the prosecution says its release just before the 2016 election helped lead to the hush money payment. It cannot be played to jurors, but it can be discussed.

►Testimony from Carroll – Separate civil juries found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation of Carroll, but her deposition cannot be shown.

What about Michael Cohen? There was also much discussion about what jurors can hear from or about Michael Cohen, Trump’s former fixer and the key witness in the case. It was Cohen who orchestrated the hush money payments and who pleaded guilty to federal charges of violating campaign finance law, for which he served time in prison.

Trump is accused by New York of falsifying business records when he paid Cohen back for the hush money scheme. Merchan has a nuanced set of guidelines for how to include the key elements of Cohen’s side of the story without making jurors think Trump is guilty of the crimes Cohen admitted committing.

New York Times reporter and CNN political analyst Maggie Haberman noted that Trump had to sit and watch while all of these uncomfortable subjects were discussed in court.

“This trial is going to be filled with personal discomfort for Donald Trump, who has often been able to just attack and then walk away,” she told CNN’s Jake Tapper. “This is going to be much harder for him here.”

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11 hours ago, 'stache said:

That Rudy isn’t the same as today’s Rudy. I seriously think he has dementia, or syphillis, or maybe even a tumor. I honestly can’t think of another famous person whose personality has changed this much in such a public way in such a short period of time without a medical explanation. He might also have been blackmailed. I just don’t understand it otherwise. America’s mayor, famous prosecutor (as you said in the most prominent US Atty position in the country), to the dumbest saddest most pathetic piece of shit imaginable. Just insane.

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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

His first wife was also his cousin.

So he’s always made bad decisions. 

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7 hours ago, YGIFS said:

I also like how Trump put "unlimited" in quotation marks like he got cut off from breadsticks at Olive Garden because he left the premises to go to Burger King and then came back for more breadsticks.  There's a John Pinetta joke in there somewhere.  

also, we know he may very well get convicted on a lot of this stuff but will never see the inside of a jail cell.  But to game it out, since the Secret Service never thought this could happen in a thousand years...what would his cell situation be?  Obviously he would not be placed in GenPop, he'd have a solitary cell.  But would an agent be in there with him at all times?  Or would two stand guard outside?  What's the protocol on having non-prison personnel packing heavy weapons inside a federal or state prison?  What's to stop 50 inmates from bum-rushing them all at once to grab their carry?  

He’ll buy a mansion, call it a federal prison, then get a shell company to manage the prison and let himself do whatever the fuck he wants inside

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44 minutes ago, MrBig said:

He’ll buy a mansion, call it a federal prison, then get a shell company to manage the prison and let himself do whatever the fuck he wants inside

He’s no Pablo Esocar. 

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I could see Trump trying to pull a Pablo Escobar by offering the government of our country or another billions to stay free. 

"Okay, President Trump...We're interested and can do what you need.  As a multi-billionaire, all we ask is $1bn for the trouble and logistics."

-Well you see, I'm between bail bondsman right now.  And I've got a lot tied up in real estate.  Would you take a 2-party out-of-state check from Slovenia?  I'm good for it, I swear.  Just ask my attorneys.  

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Apparently he retweeted or retruthed or whatever the fuck it is something from Fox news that should be considered threatening the jury pool earlier tonight.  I'm sure the judge will issue a $14 fine and stern warning in the morning.  

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He posted this earlier:

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump ·11h Crooked Joe Biden wants PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY to be protected perhaps more than any other living (barely!) individual because if it isn’t, and having absolutely nothing to do with me, he will surely be Indicted and Tried for many of his Dishonest, illegal, or Incompetent Actions (Afghanistan disaster, Southern Border catastrophe!). A President should not be placed in that position - MUST BE FREE TO MAKE DECISIONS, HOPEFULLY CORRECT ONES!
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18 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Apparently he retweeted or retruthed or whatever the fuck it is something from Fox news that should be considered threatening the jury pool earlier tonight.  I'm sure the judge will issue a $14 fine and stern warning in the morning.  

This?

“They are catching undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge in order to get on the Trump Jury,” Jesse Watters

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3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This?

“They are catching undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge in order to get on the Trump Jury,” Jesse Watters

Yep that's it.  Not huge considering all the nonsense the guy spews and retweets, but the way that reads and implies is threatening.  Though I have no doubt absolutely nothing will come of it.  

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35 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Yep that's it.  Not huge considering all the nonsense the guy spews and retweets, but the way that reads and implies is threatening.  Though I have no doubt absolutely nothing will come of it.  

The gag order that was entered specifically said he could not make comments about jurors or potential jurors.  some of his violations were dicey because the gag order was not explicit enough and was vague on the issue involved  this ain’t that.

I’m sure he will be hit by some monetary sanction. That’s so small it is not a punishment, but the way contempt sanctions work is they start off slow and then increase in severity.

 

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5 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

The gag order that was entered specifically said he could not make comments about jurors or potential jurors.  some of his violations were dicey because the gag order was not explicit enough and was vague on the issue involved  this ain’t that.

I’m sure he will be hit by some monetary sanction. That’s so small it is not a punishment, but the way contempt sanctions work is they start off slow and then increase in severity.

 

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Is retweeting something treated the same as saying it yourself? Considering that jurors have already been seated, that could be interpreted as threatening to them, I would think.

I would think so. By reposting it he is adopting the content as a view he also endorses.  In his 10 billion posts you seldom see him posting things that he does not agree with.

See defamation as an example.  If I make some false negative things up about Twice, even though you don’t know if it’s true, if you pass on what I said, you can be sued for defamation. You have published it just as if it were the first time - even though it was not your idea and you just passed on juicy gossip. 

By someone repeating the thing that is read or heard, they are vouching for the validity of the content.  Not an exact fit, but an analogy.

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