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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Lol now your stanning of our busted ass justice system makes a bit more sense. 

We will never know what makes a bit more sense to you, because your garbled word salad is typically bereft of a point.  

But the gators and the horns won their super regionals today, so all is pretty, pretty good.

 

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I appreciate the insight from the lawyers on the board and think people should ease up on them for giving their opinions on what they expect to happen and how the court system works for better or worse.  However, I think we can all agree that a judge should not take the case of the person who appointed them. It is bad optics, even if they are unbiased and many will be biased and that is why it should not be a thing, especially with the current hyper politized appointments that are happening where your willingness to inject politics into decisions and  your ability to serve for decades are more important than if you would make a fair and knowledgeable judge.

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11 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Just a guess, nothing more.  I've noticed over the years when a prosecutor charges with a shit load, typically a couple of things don't stick entirely.  

I agree that juries are apt to "compromise" on occasion.  But they usually do so on what most would agree would be the weaker charges or claims in a case.

Each of these 34 counts is virtually identical, so I don't see much room for that.  

And yeah, jury deliberations often are not what we'd call logical or even wholly rational.  However, in the grand scheme of things, they tend to get things more right than wrong.  And I think the perception of illogic and irrationality comes from advocates and observers who have become so "vested" in their case that they can't see how another, more neutral, entity (whether judge or jury) might view the case.

Lawdogs are often puzzled and outraged by decisions of judges and juries, at least initially, but in the fullness of time, those decisions become more acceptable and rational-seeming than in the heat of battle.

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10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I disagree that the strategy is "ingenious."  Rather, it's obvious and predictable, but is being more effective than I'd hoped.

But I can't read the whole post/thread because fuck Twitter.

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12 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

The problem here is you do not consider the fact that the Maga team would also be allowed the same rights in your new justice system.  Trump thinking someone will be unfair is grounds to recuse the judge..   We would have no Stormy trial at all. We would have no trials ever because he would be recusing everybody on just “feels” and “wants”.   It is natural for everyone to consider their side’s interests when you have an asshole like Trump violating the law at will.  But you have to step back and flip it to the other side taking advantage of the same things you want to take advantage of, and it becomes less attractive.  

You do not fix a court system by making it unfair and partisan.  This is why Trump has the advantage right now.

No, you still have to go through the process and a decision made based on the merits of the arguments (laughable I know, but allow me to join your fantasy world of a perfect justice system for a moment.  As things stand now, you can’t even try.

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

How would a dress EJC didn't produce "show negative"?

Yeah, the "dress showed negative" is one of the weirder things he's posted.  And that's saying something.  First thing that popped in my head was that internet dress deal from a few years ago where some people saw it as blue stripped and others saw it was white stripped.  But it was actually a "negative" space color trick.  And the simulation keeps going on and on.  

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53 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He was deemed liable for using his finger, right?  So what would they be testing for anyway, bronzer and Big Mac sauce?

 

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9 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


Also easily the biggest whining pussy.

And the most self-centered. Using a Memorial Day post not to honor our fallen soldiers, but to make it all about himself and his grievances.

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12 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

And the most self-centered. Using a Memorial Day post not to honor our fallen soldiers, but to make it all about himself and his grievances.

There is no other way possible for the Orange Fucktard.

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And he's literally co-opted an actual holiday in Memorial Day as his Festivus where he airs his bullshit grievances.  We're about 3 hours away from him making Eric try to pin him and then we just get to pretend we still live in the United States.  I mean, Melania even looks a lot like Jerry's two-face girlfriend on the porch.  What in the fucking fuck is happening?  God bless the fallen men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces.   

How much can bullshit and disrespect can the MAGA nation tolerate?  I know that some of them get off on the torment and disrespect, but there's gotta be a couple million that have just fucking had it up to here with this guy.  

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i find the idea that Cannon is delaying Trump's trial due to executing a brilliant plan brilliantly to be... dubious

She's an idiot in the impossible position of having to treat her criminal hero fairly.

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First time here and I may regret it :). Did a search and could not find this linked, but the outage may have borked search.

Hartman as Trump in 1990.  The more things change the more they stay the same.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

i find the idea that Cannon is delaying Trump's trial due to executing a brilliant plan brilliantly to be... dubious

She's an idiot in the impossible position of having to treat her criminal hero fairly.

Ummm…… that is not really “brilliant” - and has like one moving part: continue shit so she can’t fuck it up more and Trump can’t get convicted before the election.  

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Ummm…… that is not really “brilliant” - and has like one moving part: continue shit so she can’t fuck it up more and Trump can’t get convicted before the election.  

was referring to the twitter thread posted on the previous page that I'm not going to bother to read because the concept is too idiotic to be worth my limited remaining time on this planet

 

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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Trump understands Memorial Day and Veterans Day about as well as Musk understands free speech and the First Amendment.

Well, it's about tariffs, dammit.  When you make the troops force China to pay for stollen election machines on Memorial Day to commemorate the Barron's graduation.  And other things ot that nature.  

I get lower taxes and more predictable regulatory oversight, but this fucking guy.  How do so many people love him?  I think my shitty drug analogy is actually true.  

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Considering I haven't seen anyone else post this, I thought I should....

 

Also, I know this isn't as easy to read as it usually is, but alas it's at least here.

 

Read in reverse.

 

 

Todd Blanche is now showing the jury the tax documents sent to Michael Cohen and the I.R.S. as evidence that the payments to Cohen were all above board. It’s important to remember that declaring a payment to the I.R.S. doesn’t automatically make it legal.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:35 a.m. ET8 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is now walking a very thin line as he seeks to convince the jurors that there was no intent by Trump to defraud — a legal concept at the heart of the case — without trespassing into the judge’s territory. Every time Blanche says the phrase “intent to defraud,” the judge stares over at him — but thus far, Justice Merchan has not said anything.

 


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Benjamin Protess
May 28, 2024, 10:34 a.m. ET10 minutes ago
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Benjamin ProtessReporting on Trump's criminal trial

It’s a bit perplexing that Todd Blanche just highlighted that “some sort of tax scheme” was involved in the repayment to Michael Cohen. The prosecution’s theory of the case is that Trump falsified records to cover up a conspiracy to influence the 2016 election — and one way to prove the conspiracy is that tax crimes were involved. It’s unclear why Blanche would draw the jury’s attention to an important aspect of the prosecution’s case.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:35 a.m. ET8 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
This has been typical of Blanche’s closing and it's part of the risk of seeking to chip away at the prosecution's case, as opposed to pushing a cohesive alternative narrative. If you chip away, you have to hew closely to their case — and inadvertently remind jurors of the prosecution’s arguments.

In his follow-up to this argument about a tax scheme, Blanche asked why Cohen didn’t remember the amount he was meant to be owed each month and why the checks didn’t always come from Trump. Again, even as he seeks to cast doubt on the prosecution’s argument, he reminds jurors of what the other side wants them to believe.

Kate Christobek
May 28, 2024, 10:34 a.m. ET10 minutes ago
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Kate ChristobekReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump continues to alternate between looking ahead at the defense table and the monitor in front of him and watching Todd Blanche address the jury from the lectern.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:31 a.m. ET13 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is now saying that Trump was not known for overpaying, and that testimony suggested that Michael Cohen did not deserve to be paid all that much for his campaign work, particularly Hope Hicks's remarks that Cohen went “rogue” at times. “That’s not exactly a glowing performance evaluation that justifies a larger bonus,” Blanche says.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:31 a.m. ET13 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
But at the same time, Blanche has argued that the $420,000 Trump did pay Cohen was for unspecified legal work. So there’s a contradiction in the logic of his closing that may leave him vulnerable.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:29 a.m. ET15 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

It's been striking to hear Todd Blanche depict Trump as too distracted to focus on the matters of the checks and the payments. This portrayal cuts against a long-standing reality of Trump: his penchant to bore down on minutiae during times of high stress.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:28 a.m. ET16 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche just asserted that Michael Cohen’s testimony about an all-important meeting with Trump in January 2017, in which the president-elect signed off on the repayment scheme, is not “corroborated by anything, there’s not a shred of evidence.” And it's true that no one other than Cohen has directly testified about that conversation.

But it’s not true that there is not a “shred of evidence” — in fact, there is lots and lots of circumstantial evidence about what happened that day at Trump Tower, including notes made by Allen Weisselberg, then the Trump Organization's chief financial officer, about how Cohen would be repaid for the hush money, and an email that the defense just highlighted in its own closing referring back to the agreement.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:28 a.m. ET16 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
I would expect the prosecutors to hit that Blanche assertion hard in their own closing later today.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:25 a.m. ET19 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche has turned to attacking Michael Cohen: “What the government did for the past five weeks, is to ask you to believe the man who testified two weeks ago, Michael Cohen,” he says.

Kate Christobek
May 28, 2024, 10:25 a.m. ET19 minutes ago
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Kate ChristobekReporting from inside the courthouse
Blanche bluntly asks the jury: “How is the government going to ask you to convict President Trump based on the words of Michael Cohen?”

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:25 a.m. ET19 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche seemed to be describing why Trump could not be held accountable for checks he had signed. But then, somewhat confusingly, he returned to the Michael Cohen invoices, saying that jurors cannot assume that because Trump looked at invoices, “somehow he had full knowledge of what was happening.” It's possible he either meant to say checks, or decided to return to invoices abruptly. A few seconds later, he repeated the same point and made sure to mention both checks and invoices.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:22 a.m. ET22 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is repeatedly reminding the jurors that Trump is a former president. This is as much about injecting reasonable doubt as it is about trying to remind the jurors of the weight of their responsibility.

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Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:21 a.m. ET23 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is talking about Trump signing the other nine checks in the White House, recalling that “two witnesses” — meaning Hope Hicks and Madeleine Westerhout — had described Trump as “very busy. He was running the country.”

The suggestion that Trump may not have realized what he was paying for as he signed his own checks has been something his allies have offered up since 2018, when this issue first became public.

Benjamin Protess
May 28, 2024, 10:21 a.m. ET23 minutes ago
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Benjamin ProtessReporting on Trump's criminal trial
The jury will have to weigh this argument against the well-established impression of Trump as a penny-pinching micromanager, an image Trump has stoked in his own books.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:20 a.m. ET24 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is moving through the three categories of financial documents that prosecutors say are false, and seeking to provide an explanation for each. He started with the invoices, saying they were disqualified because they were sent by Michael Cohen. He followed up with the internal ledger entries, which he said were generated by the Trump Organization’s software and its limited dropdown menu. But now he has reached the 11 checks, nine of which were signed by Trump himself.

Kate Christobek
May 28, 2024, 10:20 a.m. ET24 minutes ago
24 minutes ago
Kate ChristobekReporting from inside the courthouse
Blanche seeks to distance Trump from the first two checks, reminding the jury that he didn’t personally sign them.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:18 a.m. ET26 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche raps the government for not calling Trump’s older sons, Don Jr. and Eric, who took over the management of his company after Trump became president, to testify.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:16 a.m. ET28 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

We have no idea what the jurors are thinking. As has happened most days, the foreman, who I’ve never seen take a note, is staring at the lawyer, expressionless, as the closings go ahead.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:14 a.m. ET30 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche just argued that the 12 ledger entries at issue in the case were classified as legal services because the Trump Organization's software used a dropdown menu in which one of the limited options provided is: “legal expense.”

Needless to say, the dropdown menu does not have a “repayment for hush-money deal” option.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:15 a.m. ET29 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse
That Cohen did actual legal work for Trump around when he received the payments from Trump has always been one of the defense’s strongest arguments.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 10:16 a.m. ET28 minutes ago
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Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
And Trump himself has focused his Truth Social posts on this argument throughout the duration of the trial.

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Benjamin Protess
May 28, 2024, 10:16 a.m. ET27 minutes ago
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Benjamin ProtessReporting on Trump's criminal trial
But one problem with this argument from the defense, that Cohen was repaid for legal services unrelated to the hush-money payment he made to Stormy Daniels, is that Trump’s chief financial officer laid out the plan to pay him on a copy of Cohen’s bank statement showing he paid her lawyer.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:12 a.m. ET32 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is now mocking prosecutors’ inclusion of Trump’s own words in one of his partially ghostwritten books from years ago, which was entered into evidence as proof of him being a micromanager. “If the government reads to you quotes from a book a decade, more than a decade earlier, you should be suspicious,” Blanche says. “That’s a red flag”

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:12 a.m. ET32 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
Blanche almost adopted a comedian’s tone, delivering the “red flag” line as if it were a punchline. The jurors closest to him looked a bit skeptical.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:11 a.m. ET33 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Already, Todd Blanche has hit upon a few key themes: He has focused on the documents, referring to this as a “paper case.” He has sought to distance Trump, saying the leader of the free world had nothing to do with the way documents were classified at the Trump Organization. And he has attacked Michael Cohen as a liar who was too greedy to do legal work for free.

“What makes more sense?” Blanche asked just now, asking whether the prosecutors’ allegations are more logical than the simple idea that Trump agreed to pay Cohen for legal work.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 10:11 a.m. ET33 minutes ago
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Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse
Blanche is making a classic horses, not zebras argument, saying that the simplest explanation of behavior is usually the right one, as he argues that Cohen was simply being paid for legal work, not repayment for a cover-up scheme.

Benjamin Protess
May 28, 2024, 10:08 a.m. ET36 minutes ago
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Benjamin ProtessReporting on Trump's criminal trial

In New York, written retainer agreements are generally required between lawyers and their clients, though there are exceptions that might apply in the case of Trump and Michael Cohen. Specifically, lawyers don’t always need to establish a written retainer when they are performing the same type of legal work they’ve done previously.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:08 a.m. ET36 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche just played an interesting game with the phrase “retainer agreement.” He has insisted loudly that Michael Cohen testified there was no retainer, multiple times. Then he gestures toward an email from Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, referencing an “agreement.” But that email says nothing about a “retainer agreement” specifically, and in fact, per Cohen’s testimony, refers back to his agreement with Weisselberg and Trump to disguise reimbursements for the hush-money payment.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 10:06 a.m. ET38 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche said during the trial that Michael Cohen had an “oral” retainer agreement with Trump, meaning that he had agreed to do legal work on Trump’s behalf. So in his closing, just now, when he said there was a retainer agreement, he may have been out on a limb. We’ll see if and how the prosecutors respond in their own closing.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:59 a.m. ET44 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

The defense lawyers signaled throughout the trial that they would push an argument that Todd Blanche is making right now: That the documents weren’t false because Michael Cohen really was doing legal work for Trump in 2017. He’s casting aspersions on the government’s theory of Cohen being repaid for his payment to Stormy Daniels, saying that if that were so, Cohen would have been doing unremunerated legal work.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 10:01 a.m. ET43 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse
Blanche’s voice is rising as he again insists Cohen lied in his description of the level of work he was doing for Trump.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 9:57 a.m. ET47 minutes ago
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Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche has been emphasizing the image of Trump in the White House, conjuring up his long days in the Oval Office as the “leader of the free world.” It seems to be an effort to put more distance between Trump and the documents at the center of the case, while also reminding the jury that the defendant is, unlike every other criminal defendant ever, a former American president.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 9:57 a.m. ET47 minutes ago
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Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse
As busy as he may have been, jurors have heard from numerous witnesses that Trump is a lifelong micromanager. For instance, he frequently sought to reduce the size of bills he owed. For decades he insisted on signing pretty much every check leaving the Trump Organization.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:16 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

The prosecutors enter the courtroom for their final day of arguments. Joshua Steinglass, who is expected to deliver the closing argument for the prosecution, is laden down with one enormous box. The rest of them are carrying bags, binders and other containers for documents. They look serious, fewer smiles than usual, as they steel themselves for the day.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:23 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse
By contrast, the court officers — who have been patient, professional, and largely accomodating under a crush of media interest — seem a touch more relaxed today, perhaps sensing the looming end of the daily grind of dealing with reporters, a demanding bunch.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:55 a.m. ET49 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche is focusing on the 34 documents that led to the 34 felony charges. He sounded as if he was getting close to making a legal argument about “intent to defraud.” The jurors would have to find that Trump acted with intent to defraud when he directed the falsification of the documents in order to find him guilty.

Justice Merchan appeared to glare at Blanche as he came close to commenting on the law. But the defense lawyer moved away, and the judge said nothing.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:56 a.m. ET48 minutes ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
He is talking about the first batch of documents: 11 invoices that were sent by Michael Cohen. The invoices said that Cohen required payment for legal services, but Cohen testified at trial that he was directed to say that by the powers that be at the Trump Organization. Prosecutors say Trump himself caused these false documents to come into being.

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Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:52 a.m. ET52 minutes ago
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Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse

For those of you more accustomed to the closing arguments you've seen on T.V. — which are usually just spoken summations — it might be a surprise that many have visual components. Todd Blanche is currently breaking down evidence that is being displayed on screens.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:50 a.m. ET54 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche says he is going to talk a lot about Michael Cohen today. “You cannot convict President Trump on any crime beyond a reasonable doubt on the words of Michael Cohen,” Blanche says, adding that Cohen took the stand during the trial and told “lies” while there.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:46 a.m. ET58 minutes ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche says that this case “is about documents. It’s a paper case.” It is not, he says, about an encounter with Stormy Daniels, noting — something the client likes hearing — that the defendant has denied it occurred.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:50 a.m. ET54 minutes ago
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Blanche is seeking to narrow the aperture of the case for the jury, saying that it’s not about Daniels’s story or even the hush-money payment but that it's about whether Trump, “while he was living in the White House and was the leader of the free world,” had anything to do with the way that financial documents were processed at the Trump Organization.

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Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Six members of the public made it into the courtroom, including one woman who wanted to sit on the aisle, next to where Trump will walk in. She was denied by a court officer.

Nate Schweber
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Nate SchweberReporting from outside the courthouse

Trump’s motorcade arrived at 9:01 a.m., greeted by a charged atmosphere outside the courthouse and a long line to get inside. A gray-bearded man paced back and forth, waving a wooden cross and clanging a bell. Another man shouted insults at government workers.

Andrew Giuliani filmed himself confronting a demonstrator carrying a sign protesting the killings of children in Gaza. (“What about the hostages?” Giuliani said, mugging for his phone.) Several women who are originally from China and turn out daily to support Trump demanded that the police evict anti-Trump hecklers. (“Everybody has the right to say what they want,” an officer replied.)

To more than two dozen supporters waving flags, Trump puckered his lips and pointed.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse

Six members of the public made it into the courtroom, including one woman who wanted to sit on the aisle, next to where Trump will walk in. She was denied by a court officer.

Nate Schweber
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Nate SchweberReporting from outside the courthouse

Trump’s motorcade arrived at 9:01 a.m., greeted by a charged atmosphere outside the courthouse and a long line to get inside. A gray-bearded man paced back and forth, waving a wooden cross and clanging a bell. Another man shouted insults at government workers.

Andrew Giuliani filmed himself confronting a demonstrator carrying a sign protesting the killings of children in Gaza. (“What about the hostages?” Giuliani said, mugging for his phone.) Several women who are originally from China and turn out daily to support Trump demanded that the police evict anti-Trump hecklers. (“Everybody has the right to say what they want,” an officer replied.)

To more than two dozen supporters waving flags, Trump puckered his lips and pointed.

Nate Schweber
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Nate SchweberReporting from outside the courthouse

Trump’s motorcade arrived at 9:01 a.m., greeted by a charged atmosphere outside the courthouse and a long line to get inside. A gray-bearded man paced back and forth, waving a wooden cross and clanging a bell. Another man shouted insults at government workers.

Andrew Giuliani filmed himself confronting a demonstrator carrying a sign protesting the killings of children in Gaza. (“What about the hostages?” Giuliani said, mugging for his phone.) Several women who are originally from China and turn out daily to support Trump demanded that the police evict anti-Trump hecklers. (“Everybody has the right to say what they want,” an officer replied.)

To more than two dozen supporters waving flags, Trump puckered his lips and pointed.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:42 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche, Trump’s lawyer, is at the lectern, which has been positioned to face the jurors. He mutters and says “sorry” as he starts to compose himself. He begins by thanking the jurors for their service, an important note for people who have been here for nearly two months.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:44 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
Blanche praises the jurors, then pivots to reminding them of their role, saying that in the court system, they decide the facts. “It’s not the prosecution, it’s not the judge.” And then, having done that, Blanche says that his client is innocent, that the prosecution hasn’t met its burden of proof and that the evidence presented “should leave you wanting more.”

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:41 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Already this morning, the judge, both in and out of the presence of the jury, is dictating clear lanes. First he told the lawyers, then the jurors, that his instructions on the law were the only remarks on the law that mattered. Merchan will listen to the closing arguments carefully, and may be compelled to weigh in as each side objects to the other’s argument. He’s reminding everyone of his role right now, before we begin.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:39 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

The jury is in. They have had almost a week off, but now, the focus of the trial is shifting to them. The judge is explaining how closing arguments will work, and that they'll hear from the defense first and then the prosecution. “The lawyers may not speak to you after that,” the judge says.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:41 a.m. ET1 hour ago
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Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse
Justice Merchan cautions the jurors that the lawyers are simply making “arguments for your consideration.” He underscores that their words are not evidence.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:36 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Todd Blanche, the defense lawyer, says his closing argument will take about two and a half hours, and Joshua Steinglass, the prosecutor, responds that his will be between four and four and a half hours. The judge says that means we may or may not finish at 4:30, and that he will ask the jurors if they can stay late in order to finish closing arguments if necessary.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 9:36 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
These time estimates were greeted by a chorus of heavy signs and some chuckles from the reporters in the overflow room.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:36 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse
Before he summons the jury, the judge offers a word of warning to the lawyers, asking them not to comment on the law in their closings. That is his job, he reminds them, telling them to focus on the facts.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:40 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse
An average human being speaks about 140 words a minute (thanks, Google), meaning that a 4.5 hour summation is approximately 37,800 words, give or take. That’s a little longer than “Of Mice and Men,” and a little shorter than “The Great Gatsby.”

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Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:55 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Though Trump has held a handful of campaign events while on trial, he has nothing publicly scheduled this week. He has to be at the courthouse while the jury deliberates, and because it’s unclear how long they’ll take, it’s tough for the campaign to plan around, advisers told me.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:55 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Though Trump has held a handful of campaign events while on trial, he has nothing publicly scheduled this week. He has to be at the courthouse while the jury deliberates, and because it’s unclear how long they’ll take, it’s tough for the campaign to plan around, advisers told me.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:55 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Though Trump has held a handful of campaign events while on trial, he has nothing publicly scheduled this week. He has to be at the courthouse while the jury deliberates, and because it’s unclear how long they’ll take, it’s tough for the campaign to plan around, advisers told me.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:55 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Though Trump has held a handful of campaign events while on trial, he has nothing publicly scheduled this week. He has to be at the courthouse while the jury deliberates, and because it’s unclear how long they’ll take, it’s tough for the campaign to plan around, advisers told me.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:35 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

The judge is on the bench, and we are set to begin.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:35 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse

Minutes before entering the courtroom, Trump put a series of posts on Truth Social citing a roster of legal writers he favors (and who usually favor him), all slamming the case, including the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal.

Kate Christobek
May 28, 2024, 9:34 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Kate ChristobekReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump sat down at the defense table and immediately started chatting, and at one point chuckling, with his lead lawyer, Todd Blanche. A group of pool photographers then entered to take Trump’s photo, and at one point, he smiled at them.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:32 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump and his entourage — legal, familial and otherwise — number two dozen, to my count.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:35 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse
Covering Trumpland means being aware of the strange alliances — and many antipathies — that exist. Looking at the advisers who are here today: These are not all people who enjoy one another's company.

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Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Credit...Adam Gray for The New York Times
Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Credit...Adam Gray for The New York Times
Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:28 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump enters the courtroom, scowling, followed by Todd Blanche and Susan Necheles, two of his lawyers on this case; Alina Habba and Susie Wiles, two of his advisers; and three of his children and his daughter-in-law: Eric Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Tiffany Trump and Lara Trump. Boris Epshteyn, his indicted top legal adviser, is here again too.

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Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 9:28 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse
Missing from the entourage is his older daughter, Ivanka Trump, and his wife, Melania Trump.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:25 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

The prosecutors have been joined by their boss, Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney. The prosecution benches are a little more full than usual today, with a handful of the office’s top personnel on hand to watch the closings.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 9:23 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

Members of the public in the overflow courtroom are not allowed to use electronic devices. To pass the time before proceedings start, some have brought books to read. One woman is flipping through The New York Times.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 9:16 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

The prosecutors enter the courtroom for their final day of arguments. Joshua Steinglass, who is expected to deliver the closing argument for the prosecution, is laden down with one enormous box. The rest of them are carrying bags, binders and other containers for documents. They look serious, fewer smiles than usual, as they steel themselves for the day.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:23 a.m. ET1 hour ago
1 hour ago
Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse
By contrast, the court officers — who have been patient, professional, and largely accomodating under a crush of media interest — seem a touch more relaxed today, perhaps sensing the looming end of the daily grind of dealing with reporters, a demanding bunch.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Credit...Adam Gray for The New York Times
Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jesse McKinley
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jesse McKinleyReporting from inside the courthouse

Six members of the public made it into the courtroom, including one woman who wanted to sit on the aisle, next to where Trump will walk in. She was denied by a court officer.

Nate Schweber
May 28, 2024, 9:11 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Nate SchweberReporting from outside the courthouse

Trump’s motorcade arrived at 9:01 a.m., greeted by a charged atmosphere outside the courthouse and a long line to get inside. A gray-bearded man paced back and forth, waving a wooden cross and clanging a bell. Another man shouted insults at government workers.

Andrew Giuliani filmed himself confronting a demonstrator carrying a sign protesting the killings of children in Gaza. (“What about the hostages?” Giuliani said, mugging for his phone.) Several women who are originally from China and turn out daily to support Trump demanded that the police evict anti-Trump hecklers. (“Everybody has the right to say what they want,” an officer replied.)

To more than two dozen supporters waving flags, Trump puckered his lips and pointed.

Kate Christobek
May 28, 2024, 9:00 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Kate ChristobekReporting from inside the courthouse

This is how closing arguments work.
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Donald Trump, wearing a dark suit and gold tie, sits at a courtroom table between two lawyers. Behind them are a court officer standing and rows of people in seats.
Former President Donald J. Trump’s lawyers in the Manhattan criminal trial will deliver their closing arguments first.Credit...Dave Sanders for The New York Times
After five grueling weeks of testimony, prosecutors and defense lawyers will have one final chance to sway the 12 jurors in the Manhattan criminal trial of Donald J. Trump: closing arguments.

Also known as summations, closing arguments give each side several hours to highlight the evidence that best proves its case. While similar to the opening statements delivered at a trial’s start, closing arguments tend to be more forceful — and therefore more memorable. They are meant to leave a lasting impression on jurors as they start deliberations.

Prosecutors at the Manhattan district attorney’s office have charged Mr. Trump with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to cover up a $130,000 hush-money payment to the porn star Stormy Daniels, who says she had a sexual encounter with Mr. Trump. They argue this was part of a larger scheme to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

Mr. Trump has denied the charges and having sex with Ms. Daniels. Because of the rules in New York state courts, his lawyers will deliver their closing argument first.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers will inevitably attack what they perceive to be problems with the prosecutors’ case. They will flag possible gaps or shortcomings in evidence. They will also seek to remind the jurors of credibility issues with the witnesses who have testified, most likely focusing on two key witnesses for the prosecutors: Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, and Ms. Daniels.

They are likely to argue that prosecutors have not met their burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt — the highest burden of proof in the U.S. legal system — that Mr. Trump committed these crimes, and will ask the jury to acquit him.

It will then be the prosecutors’ turn. With this heavy burden in mind, they will strive to paint a clear picture of the crime, weaving in witness testimony and documents, to persuade the jury that there is only one outcome that the evidence supports: guilty on all 34 counts.

When both sides have finished, the judge, Juan M. Merchan, will instruct the jurors on the law and how to apply it to the evidence, and they will be sent off to deliberate.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:55 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Though Trump has held a handful of campaign events while on trial, he has nothing publicly scheduled this week. He has to be at the courthouse while the jury deliberates, and because it’s unclear how long they’ll take, it’s tough for the campaign to plan around, advisers told me.

Matthew Haag
May 28, 2024, 8:39 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Matthew Haag

The trial has entered its final stages. Here’s what comes next.
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Donald J. Trump in a courtroom hallway.
Donald J. Trump could face prison or probation if he’s found guilty in Manhattan Criminal Court.Credit...Dave Sanders for The New York Times
Closing arguments start Tuesday in the Manhattan hush-money trial of Donald J. Trump, signaling the final stages of the first criminal trial of an American president. Both prosecutors and defense lawyers will make their final cases for his guilt or innocence before jurors deliberate Mr. Trump’s fate.

In closing arguments, both sides will have more freedom than in opening statements as they work to persuade jurors of their interpretations of the facts that were presented at trial. While opening statements are restricted to evidence, the prosecution and the defense will use closing arguments to argue how and why the evidence, testimony and law support a specific verdict.

Closing arguments are expected to last for most or all of Tuesday and perhaps beyond. After closing arguments, the judge, Juan M. Merchan, will provide instructions to the 12 members of the jury that are meant to guide their deliberations. Lawyers on both sides tried to shape and, in some cases, limit the instructions during a conference with Justice Merchan last week.

From there, the case will be in the hands of the jurors, who will consider whether prosecutors proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Trump was guilty on all, some or none of the 34 felony counts with which he has been charged.

The charges stem from a $130,000 payment made by Mr. Trump’s former fixer and personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, in the days before the 2016 election to silence Stormy Daniels, a porn star who said she had sex with Mr. Trump a decade earlier. Prosecutors say Mr. Trump sought to cover up the sex scandal because he believed it would derail his campaign.

In 2017, after Mr. Trump had been elected and was in the White House, Mr. Cohen was reimbursed, and prosecutors have argued that Mr. Trump falsified business records to try to conceal the hush-money deal and the repayment.

The counts have been charged as felonies, because prosecutors say that the former president falsified business records to conceal a second crime. That, they have argued, was a violation of New York’s election law. (Prosecutors do not have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Trump committed the election crime.)

During deliberations, Mr. Trump is required to be at the courthouse in Lower Manhattan. After deliberations, which could last hours, days or weeks, the jurors can return a range of verdicts — guilty or not guilty on all counts; guilty of some and not others; and a failure to reach a verdict on some counts or even all.

If jurors can’t reach a decision at all, the judge would declare a mistrial — and prosecutors could bring the case again.

The jury’s verdict will be handed to Justice Merchan, who will review the decision before handing it back to the jury foreperson to read the outcomes out loud in the courtroom.

If Mr. Trump is found guilty of any count, he would be sentenced at a hearing scheduled for a later date. The 34 counts are all Class E felonies, the lowest level in New York State. They each carry a sentence of up to four years in prison.

If Mr. Trump were to be convicted of more than one count, Justice Merchan would likely impose a concurrent sentence, under which Mr. Trump served all prison time simultaneously. Mr. Trump could also be sentenced to probation.

Further, Mr. Trump would undoubtedly appeal any conviction, a process that could take months or longer.

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Susanne Craig
May 28, 2024, 8:38 a.m. ET2 hours ago
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Susanne CraigReporting from inside the courthouse

It was a madhouse this morning outside court. The lines for the public and the press were as long as I have seen them. Normally most members of the media get a seat inside, either in the courtroom itself or in an overflow room where the trial is broadcast. Today, some reporters were turned away.

There were also hearty members of the public who queued all weekend for a chance to watch closing arguments. For some of them, it was all for naught.

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Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

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Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump will be joined by several members of his family in court today: his sons Donald Jr. and Eric; Lara Trump, Eric’s wife and the co-chair of the Republican National Committee; and his daughter Tiffany and her husband, Michael Boulos.

Michael Gold
May 28, 2024, 8:35 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Michael GoldReporting from inside the courthouse
Also joining Trump’s entourage of supporters in court today as closing arguments begin are Steve Witkoff, a real-estate investor and longtime friend; Will Scharf, a Republican candidate for attorney general in Missouri and one of Trump’s lawyers in another case; and Deroy Murdock, a conservative political commentator.

Maggie Haberman
May 28, 2024, 8:34 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from inside the courthouse

Trump spent Monday both posting on Truth Social about this case and attacking E. Jean Carroll, the New York writer whom Trump was found liable for defaming and sexually abusing.

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

Jonah Bromwich
May 28, 2024, 8:29 a.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Jonah BromwichReporting from inside the courthouse

Good morning from the Manhattan Criminal Courthouse, where after a week off, we are back in the courtroom for closing arguments in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump. It’s the lawyers’ last chance to address the jury, and the stakes are sky high.

The defense wil go first this morning, seeking to seed doubt in at least one juror. Prosecutors will follow, looking to emphasize all of the testimony and documentary evidence that corroborates the fundamental point of their case: that Trump committed 34 felonies by approving the falsification of financial documents related to a hush-money payment to a porn star during the 2016 campaign.

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6 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Trump also falsely claimed the prosecutors in this case were somehow getting an undue edge by getting to deliver their closing arguments after the defense; that is actually the law here.

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@Dnaguy Thanks for posting. You've got to be careful copy/pasting the NYTimes feed -- there are tons of duplicate posts. A week or so ago, I decided to pause my subscription and can't assist. @Francisco 2.0 Apologies for not keeping the updates going.

If anyone else wants to follow along, AP also has real-time updates: https://apnews.com/live/trump-trial-day-21-updates

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13 minutes ago, bolverk said:

@Dnaguy Thanks for posting. You've got to be careful copy/pasting the NYTimes feed -- there are tons of duplicate posts. A week or so ago, I decided to pause my subscription and can't assist. @Francisco 2.0 Apologies for not keeping the updates going.

If anyone else wants to follow along, AP also has real-time updates: https://apnews.com/live/trump-trial-day-21-updates

 

I'm sorry I couldn't keep it going.

I tried and failed.

 

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21 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

No, you still have to go through the process and a decision made based on the merits of the arguments (laughable I know, but allow me to join your fantasy world of a perfect justice system for a moment.  As things stand now, you can’t even try.

God, your Strawman arguments are such a mind numbing beat down.   Show me one fucking post where I said it was a ‘perfect justice system.’    It’s like you have a MAGA brain but you’re wearing a Biden T-shirt.

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On 5/26/2024 at 8:25 PM, Jack Straw said:

it’s going to be a hung jury.  they only need one Republican voter on the jury. and the chances are very night that there are several.  
 

would you trust any person who votes for Republicans in 2024 to do the right thing, ever? I wouldn’t.  

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Bottom line, what happens in this case doesn't fucking matter.  Acquit him?  He gets stronger.  Convict him?  He gets stronger, because he's persecuted.  He isn't going to prison over this, so that sure doesn't fucking matter.

There is no hope for this country until that fucker dies.  That's it.  That is the only thing that will make ANY difference -- his death.  

History itself depends on a single, poorly-chewed bit of a Big Mac.  That's where we are.

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

History itself depends on a single, poorly-chewed bit of a Big Mac.  That's where we are.

As he watches the verdict along with us . . . 

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Aileen Cannon playing more fuck-fuck games in South Florida?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/28/politics/trump-gag-order-cannon-classified-documents/index.html

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Federal Judge Aileen Cannon on Tuesday rejected special counsel Jack Smith’s request for a gag order against Donald Trump in the classified documents case, saying that prosecutors’ request was “wholly lacking in substance and professional courtesy.”

 

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Bottom line, what happens in this case doesn't fucking matter.  Acquit him?  He gets stronger.  Convict him?  He gets stronger, because he's persecuted.  He isn't going to prison over this, so that sure doesn't fucking matter.

There is no hope for this country until that fucker dies.  That's it.  That is the only thing that will make ANY difference -- his death.  

History itself depends on a single, poorly-chewed bit of a Big Mac.  That's where we are.

 

To be fair, McDonald's is at least trying.....

Summer Menu 2024 (mcdonalds.com)

McDonald's Is Creating an Even Bigger Burger (foodandwine.com)

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These prosecutors in the hush money case had a difficult case in which they need the jury to believe Michael Cohen. Most of us here want to believe Cohen but we all understand that he's a lifetime liar and opportunist. In many other circumstances, we would all write off testimony that he provides.  Trump may get off most of these charges because he surrounded himself with even worst people than himself.

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

What does professional courtesy have to do with it?

Well, you know, we can't have people being very mean to a professional con man rapist who tried to start a violent insurrection.

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7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

These prosecutors in the hush money case had a difficult case in which they need the jury to believe Michael Cohen. Most of us here want to believe Cohen but we all understand that he's a lifetime liar and opportunist. In many other circumstances, we would all write off testimony that he provides.  Trump may get off most of these charges because he surrounded himself with even worst people than himself.

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4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

These prosecutors in the hush money case had a difficult case in which they need the jury to believe Michael Cohen. Most of us here want to believe Cohen but we all understand that he's a lifetime liar and opportunist. In many other circumstances, we would all write off testimony that he provides.  Trump may get off most of these charges because he surrounded himself with even worst people than himself.

Cohen is a terrible person but he is not worse than Trump. Let's not forget that.

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