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Posted
Just now, Neonmoon said:

What’s a realistic penalty for Hush money conviction? Any jail time or just probation?

I'm by no means an expert on this, but from what I've read get ready for 1 to 3 years, all concurrent, with a really good chance of being suspended.  So get ready for a big ole sack o dicks.  Convicted felon, that's about it.  This has by far the least amount of teeth.  

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Posted
17 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I swim laps as exercise. Over time, you get to know some of the other swimmers. Through one conversation, I learned the powers that be are putting mRNA vaccines into the nation’s vegetable and meat food supplies. Imagine my surprise,

Smart dude. Here I am getting booster shots in my arm like a sucker. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

Are we Yanks calling soccer fields pitches now?

No doubt your kids were wearing nice kits whilst at their football matches.

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39 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Never mind the bollocks.

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100% this. It’s not that our country is being betrayed and overthrown BY fascists. It’s that it’s being betrayed by ordinary spineless power-hungry pathetic pieces of shit FOR fascists. It’s maddening. The only comfort I take is that as the leopards eat people’s faces, theirs are often first on the list. Fascists always turn on those closest to them first.
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Posted
4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

This ass-clown’s treason might not be the thing they get them on, but instead lying about banging the porn star and paying her to keep quiet

What would “getting him” in this instance entail?  A fine?  A slap on the wrist?  Certainly not barring him from office. 
 

That is what we are concerned about. He is getting rich white guy privileges in terms of actual consequences. 

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Posted
48 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Because it sounds unamerican to DDD. 

Well, it is British. I guess if we are comfortable with the terms gridiron and diamond, might as well allow the Tory’s their own fun.

Pitch, as you know, first described a cricket field. Apparently you pitch those two stakes like you would pitch a tent. I love soccer. Loved playing it and now I love watching it. I regret y’all bring the cricket baggage along with the Euro-speak.

https://onthepitch.org/2006/02/21/ever-wonder-why-its-called-a-pitch/

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25 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Well, it is British. I guess if we are comfortable with the terms gridiron and diamond, might as well allow the Tory’s their own fun.

Pitch, as you know, first described a cricket field. Apparently you pitch those two stakes like you would pitch a tent. I love soccer. Loved playing it and now I love watching it. I regret y’all bring the cricket baggage along with the Euro-speak.

https://onthepitch.org/2006/02/21/ever-wonder-why-its-called-a-pitch/

Is soccer not a British word?

Posted
1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

No, it’s just pretentious. 

LOL. I am sorry that foreigner sounding words make you uncomfortable. Have you seen this rabona from driussi to fagundez. Does that make you feel icky to read?

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Here’s my question: What does the “everyone is in the tank for Trump” crowd think about the judge today torpedoing every motion Trump‘s team urged, lambasting Trump’s defense attorneys, shortening Trump’s appellate timetable, and setting the Stormy Daniel’s hush money trial for next month?

What do I think about it? I think it’s the string orchestra on deck playing “Nearer my God to Thee.” It’s a noble gesture and perhaps a soothing diversion, but what matters now is lifeboats.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Here’s my question: What does the “everyone is in the tank for Trump” crowd think about the judge today torpedoing every motion Trump‘s team urged, lambasting Trump’s defense attorneys, shortening Trump’s appellate timetable, and setting the Stormy Daniel’s hush money trial for next month?

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Posted
13 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Nice kits, the finest boots, matching rucksacks.
Parents rocking scarfs.

Lake Travis even has those bubble shelters on the bench so little Okayden feels like a pro. (All the fans are on the other side of the stadium so it's not player protection, just cheesey.

I would have gladly taken the shelters!  My schools' soccer team sucked, but we had an italian coach and an English Headmaster.  Every game was a beating both on and off the fieldpitch.

Posted
3 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

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Look, I’m not predicting a win in this criminal case, only commenting that yesterday Trump was told he has an April 15 trial.  Which is not delaying anything.   The biggest prosecution problem is that Michael Cohen is a lying liar, and it will be interesting to see how much (if any) of the case relies on his testimony - versus written documents and emails introduced as evidence. 

I’m placing my bets that nowhere in the written documents is there a single mention of Trump worrying about Melania being the reason for the pay off.  At minimum, the country will hear a whole lot of smarmy stuff about the Orange God.   Like I always say, no one cares if MAGA changes their mind - we only need to increase a couple percentage points among independents.  

 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Anastasis said:

LOL. I am sorry that foreigner sounding words make you uncomfortable. Have you seen this rabona from driussi to fagundez. Does that make you feel icky to read?

 

 

A quality Austin FC goal....that footage is so old I'm surprised it wasn't transferred from celluloid. 

9 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

What do I think about it? I think it’s the string orchestra on deck playing “Nearer my God to Thee.” It’s a noble gesture and perhaps a soothing diversion, but what matters now is lifeboats.

Bingo.  And....there are no lifeboats.  This is it.  This is the country/lifeboat.  And half the people on it are busy shooting it full of holes, as they declare how patriotic they are about lifeboats.

Posted
11 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Here’s my question: What does the “everyone is in the tank for Trump” crowd think about the judge today torpedoing every motion Trump‘s team urged, lambasting Trump’s defense attorneys, shortening Trump’s appellate timetable, and setting the Stormy Daniel’s hush money trial for next month?

Trump’s dip-shit lawyer went to jail for that.  The evidence is overwhelming. Almost all of it is confirmed in written documentation, and the written documentation confirmed by witnesses.  

Al Capone’s lifetime of murders was not what he went down for. It was tax evasion. This ass-clown’s treason might not be the thing they get them on, but instead lying about banging the porn star and paying her to keep quiet when he was thought vulnerable because of the ‘grab them by the pussy’ disclosure - and worried about the election if further stuff came out. 

 

 

I say call me when he actually does jail time. 

 

 

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Posted
Just now, High Plains Drifter said:

 

 

I say call me when he actually does jail time. 

 

 

Even that won't matter.  Nothing will help us except his death.  Which I legitimately pray for every single day.  No death in human history will be as impactful as his.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

What would “getting him” in this instance entail?  A fine?  A slap on the wrist?  Certainly not barring him from office. 
 

That is what we are concerned about. He is getting rich white guy privileges in terms of actual consequences. 

I am not a probation and parole officer, nor am I the judge. 

You seem to forget that the very same scheme and acts got Cohen sent to federal prison for a while. We all know that Cohen was acting at Trump’s direction, so if Cohen went to trial for a year or two, I see no reason why Trump should not spend a little time behind bars. Again, this would be a conviction for illegal election interference.   Just because Trump and company frame it as an adultery matter doesn’t mean that that is what he is being charged with.  

The only question is whether the orange turd will take the stand in his own defense.   I cannot envision any defense lawyer letting him take the stand. This is a he-said/he-said type of case and Trump not taking the stand would normally not be viewed well by a jury.

At minimum it will be fun to see the judge hold Trump in contempt if he keeps banging the stollen election drum after he’s told not to bring it up. Finally, I expect there’s a whole bunch of conservative news listening voters who may not have heard the totality of the allegations against Trump. They are about to have their face smashed into news of banging stormy Daniels while his child was being born - and they will learn about the involvement of Trump in the matter via internal documents, and will get to see video of Trump lying about it all continually in his news conferences and on Twitter.

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Tripping and falling face-first into the toilet while choking on a KFC chicken bone would be perfect. Bonus points if there were boxes of unretrieved stolen classified documents nearby.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

I say call me when he actually does jail time. 

You all seem to want something other than democracy to decide his fate.  if we reelect Trump, we all deserve to lose our country. Being the first president ever to sit in a criminal trial after holding office (while running in an election) is unheard of. I get you think it will not matter. So I say, again, if the criminal trial is not enough to defeat Trump in an election, then we had a nice run and we do not deserve nice things like a democracy.

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Every day I log in here and hope that this thread title has been changed to "45 Is Dead."

 I'm sure that we can do better. 

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The memes and GQP tears are going to glorious

But I don't want him to die adored by 30% of the country and have a State funeral forced upon us, I want to see him exposed and his followers humiliated.   He should die poor, old, sickly, and ideally in jail.

 

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, locodos said:

 I'm sure that we can do better. 

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  • A load has been lifted off Ivanka
  • Trump finally makes America Great again!
  • St. Peter and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

The memes and GQP tears are going to glorious

But I don't want him to die adored by 30% of the country and have a State funeral forced upon us, I want to see him exposed and his followers humiliated.   He should die poor, old, sickly, and ideally in jail.

 

 

fuck that

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Boss Hogg said:

 

 

Yes, a huge campaign contribution courtesy of the billionaire who owns a decent size stake of Tiktok. So it appears that legislation to force a sale of US based Tiktok was instead a shakedown that resulted in this deal for a 3 billion dollar valuation merger with Truth Social's company. A company that had only 3 million in revenue last year and a negative 49m operating loss. Totally not illegal campaign financing, bribery or anything else going on here, just your normal billionaires doing business as usual...

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

You all seem to want something other than democracy to decide his fate.  if we reelect Trump, we all deserve to lose our country. Being the first president ever to sit in a criminal trial after holding office (while running in an election) is unheard of. I get you think it will not matter. So I say, again, if the criminal trial is not enough to defeat Trump in an election, then we had a nice run and we do not deserve nice things like a democracy.

I'm afraid your bolded is the question....and the answer.

Democracies are rarely TAKEN away.  They are GIVEN away.  And we're almost done with the "giving it away" part.  We are not going to save ourselves, that much is apparent.  Trump's death is the only thing that even has a chance of saving us.  May he choke on a chicken bone today.

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So the Trump Digital Media Company doesn't answer.  The DWAC spac group's number answers but goes to a voicemail box with 500mb of data capacity so it was basically full on day one.  The S-1 filings are amateur hour and 1 of the 2 firms involved in filing it aren't even aware they filed it.  The other one is a legit firm but are so busy today handling press calls, they're over their heads.  

I mean, even for Trump...this circus is something else.  This was one his more hastily thrown-together measures, even by his standards.  And that's saying something.  

Selling 1/4 of his shares on day one, even with a cooperating board, is not nothing.  Those people will have to eventually stand before the SEC and a federal judge for conspiring to aid in securities fraud.  If he is not available to pardon them, they will be in deep, deep shit.  

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Posted
43 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

You all seem to want something other than democracy to decide his fate.  if we reelect Trump, we all deserve to lose our country. Being the first president ever to sit in a criminal trial after holding office (while running in an election) is unheard of. I get you think it will not matter. So I say, again, if the criminal trial is not enough to defeat Trump in an election, then we had a nice run and we do not deserve nice things like a democracy.

What an odd thing for a lawyer to say. Is it too much to ask the legal system to efficiently and fairly adjudicate crimes and civil actions when they involve the rich and powerful? Are there cases of yours we should put to a vote?

What would you say you do here?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

What an odd thing for a lawyer to say. Is it too much to ask the legal system to efficiently and fairly adjudicate crimes and civil actions when they involve the rich and powerful? Are there cases of yours we should put to a vote?

What would you say you do here?

That, my friend, is an absolute full boatload of straw men.  You want a quick trial? You got a quick trial. Do you want a quick trial on a criminal matter? The April 15 trial date is a criminal matter.   You seem to imply that if one juror does not vote to convict Trump - that the legal system is to blame. Sometimes the system is just one juror. I can’t control that; you can’t control that.

The only thing we can control is that we individually register to vote and go to the polls on election day and vote. Or vote early. Or mail in your ballot. You want the judicial systems throughout the country to unite in some quest to prevent Trump from winning the election. That is not what the legal system was designed to do. It was designed to hear individual cases in front of various individual judges. In a normal case, expenses and fees control the amount of bullshit motions filed. There is no law that prevents people with a lot of money filing more motions than people who can’t pay for a lot of bullshit motions. It’s been that way since Rome. It is not a failure of the system it is an aspect of civilization throughout history that rich people have more dap than poor people.  I cannot change that. 

If democracy dies, it will be because people vote for Trump. It won’t be because the judicial system failed. Democracy is not instituted by the court system. Democracy relies upon individual citizens pulling the lever for the candidate they want. If more people want Trump, that is not the fault of the legal system.

All of the facts necessary to show that Trump is a piece of shit and a threat to the country has already been put on the table an exponential number of times since 2016. If people don’t see it, then that is a failure of our education and our culture and our news and our politicians. I am getting more than a little sick of everyone blaming lawyers for all the stupid voters in the country who like Trump. 

I have no idea what the rest of your post is talking about

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

That, my friend, is an absolute full boatload of straw men.  You want a quick trial? You got a quick trial. Do you want a quick trial on a criminal matter? The April 15 trial date is a criminal matter.   You seem to imply that if one juror does not vote to convict Trump - that the legal system is to blame. Sometimes the system is just one juror. I can’t control that; you can’t control that.

 

No see, that's a strawman. Does that kind of thing usually work in court?
then you go on to say:
 

15 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

blah blah blah...

I am getting more than a little sick of everyone blaming lawyers for all the stupid voters in the country who like Trump. 

Nobody is blaming the lawyers for stupid voters. They are blaming lawyers for excusing massive, flagrant abuse of procedure and the court's time with the blandishment that "the lawyers first duty is to his client," as if that obviated his duty as an officer of the court and member of the bar. God forbid he should dress poorly or fail to return phone calls or develop an addiction to pain pills, but if a client is rich and powerful enough to buy endless paper, and bullshit motions and a lifetime of billable hours, it's Bleak House, baby. 
This isn't about Donald Trump. He's just the most visible example of the how the legal system and the legal profession protects the rich and powerful but does not bind them. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

You all seem to want something other than democracy to decide his fate.  if we reelect Trump, we all deserve to lose our country. Being the first president ever to sit in a criminal trial after holding office (while running in an election) is unheard of. I get you think it will not matter. So I say, again, if the criminal trial is not enough to defeat Trump in an election, then we had a nice run and we do not deserve nice things like a democracy.

That's an understandable sentiment. My counter-point to that is that my son is a sweet, gentle kid who won't turn 7 until next fall. And that blase attitude about what we "deserve" as a country doesn't take into account that he hasn't had an opportunity to vote, to influence, or to really live. So casually shitting away his future before it starts while one casually waves their hand doesn't do it for me. So yeah, I'm fine with him waking up dead. 

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