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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NC gives you so new many paths: (I always keep NV in the Dem tally)

Win NC, you can lose PA, AZ and GA if you win MI/WI

Win NC, you can lose AZ, GA and WI if you win PA 

Win NC, and AZ, and you only need 2/3 blue wall states 

 

I know that, I'm just saying I think the idea that Roy Cooper is going to be worth several points in NC is dubious. I actually do think I'd pick him though. Even assuming it does not fundamentally change the race in NC, I think he's a good a pick as any to court independent/moderates and the potential cost of picking him is the lowest. Most other names floated have a tangible downside or don't have any in-state upside. 

Shaprio is really the only other name I'd consider, but he's actually quite valuable as an above-replacement value Governor of PA. Holding that position is going to be absolutely vital if Harris loses in November and you want Shaprio on the ballot, without the stain of losing the state as a VP candidate.

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

My god they are flailing. You love to see it. 

 

1.) What?

2.) Your base doesn't know what a good chunk of those words mean.

3.) Those that do will revert to point 1.

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I was on the fence on whether Biden stays in or make a change to Kamala was a better chance for winning in Nov. I could see pros and cons on both sides (sorry for that phrase). Now that it’s done, and Biden seems to have done it in as gracious a way that could be done, I can’t even put into words how energized I feel by this news.

Thanks Joe — for bearing that asshole in ‘20 and now for thinking of the country first and standing aside so Kamala can deliver the knockout blow in ‘24!

Let’s fucking go!

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Shapiro endorses Kamala

Agree with every single point you made in that post. Every single one. LFG indeed! 

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6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

My god they are flailing. You love to see it. 

 

Omg she’s an atheist communist AND believes in the occult. 
 

Swing voters are going to buy that for sure 

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All you need to know is 99% of it is dreadfully unfunny.
It's the comedy stylings of a middle school bully that never got his comeuppance yet became an "adult."

"gay"
"you do oral sex; oral sex is gross.'
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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The GOP really believed Biden wouldn’t step down as the nominee. They weren’t prepared 

I could see being unprepared for one of the major governors or someone out of left field... But the sitting Vice President for the 81 year old POTUS? This is the best they have after the past few weeks?

I'm sure it'll fine tune but I am not impressed. Democrats can win this.

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6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Shapiro endorses Kamala

A big thing is not many of the non KH names have been nationally vetted. Good chance to let her team privately vet them 

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5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I was on the fence on whether Biden stays in or make a change to Kamala was a better chance for winning in Nov. I could see pros and cons on both sides (sorry for that phrase). Now that it’s done, and Biden seems to have done it in as gracious a way that could be done, I can’t even put into words how energized I feel by this news.

Thanks Joe — for bearing that asshole in ‘20 and now for thinking of the country first and standing aside so Kamala can deliver the knockout blow in ‘24!

Let’s fucking go!

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Shapiro endorses Kamala

 

2 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

Agree with every single point you made in that post. Every single one. LFG indeed! 

me too, i couldn't even pretend to know which was the better option. but...i can now say i'm feeling much more optimistic than i was this time yesterday.

i made a point of watching FOX news for a while earlier...i think seeing their reaction along with that of DT and others...yeah, i'm feeling pretty good about it now. 

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20 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s ALWAYS dumber than you think 

this really should be the 24 GQP campaign slogan. 

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2 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I could see being unprepared for one of the major governors or someone out of left field... But the sitting Vice President for the 81 year old POTUS? This is the best they have after the past few weeks?

I'm sure it'll fine tune but I am not impressed. Democrats can win this.

Their point of reference is Trump and he wouldn’t do this in a million years. They assumed Biden would hang on until the election or failing that destroy his party upon being forced out. 

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Their point of reference is Trump and he wouldn’t do this in a million years. They assumed Biden would hang on until the election or failing that destroy his party upon being forced out. 

This. Trump wouldn’t back out at any cost. That was their assumption, that Joe was exactly the same 

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8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The GOP really believed Biden wouldn’t step down as the nominee. They weren’t prepared 

You are correct, but it makes sense. Republicans are cowards. In a few months they allowed a conman shitbag to completely take over their party. They talked the talk at first, but bent the knee the minute things got tough. They don't know what it means to show conviction and to do the right thing. 

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2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Only an incel would think that's a negative.

She already had my vote, but now... 

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Yup, gonna be a lot of us voting 3, 4 times.

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8 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I could see being unprepared for one of the major governors or someone out of left field... But the sitting Vice President for the 81 year old POTUS? This is the best they have after the past few weeks?

I'm sure it'll fine tune but I am not impressed. Democrats can win this.

You've got to remember these are just the common clay of the new west.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

This. Trump wouldn’t back out at any cost. That was their assumption, that Joe was exactly the same 

To be fair it took multiple "you can't win!" moments from the party ala Adrian in Rocky III

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5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

We also desperately need an eye roll rep.

 

3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

And a "nah, fuck all that"

these are both gifs that are easily searchable

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The great replacement theory people will let their freak flags fully fly for all to see. This is so much better than them staying in the shadows. This is what America needs to see. This is how we have the reckoning this nation has been needing since Obama left office. Let is all come out. Our country needs it to happen. 
You clearly don't travel through rural Texas or the Coast. They are loudly flying their freak flags and running their mouths openly.
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2 minutes ago, Born to Run said:
47 minutes ago, mdmost said:
The great replacement theory people will let their freak flags fully fly for all to see. This is so much better than them staying in the shadows. This is what America needs to see. This is how we have the reckoning this nation has been needing since Obama left office. Let is all come out. Our country needs it to happen. 

You clearly don't travel through rural Texas or the Coast. They are loudly flying their freak flags and running their mouths openly.


70% trump down the coast. So spots are 90% 

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27 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Would you mind posting the full thread, please?

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

 

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/malign-creativity-how-gender-sex-and-lies-are-weaponized-against-women-online

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Executive Summary



This report strives to build awareness of the direct and indirect impacts of gendered and sexualized disinformation on women in public life, as well as its corresponding impacts on national security and democratic participation. In an analysis of online conversations about 13 female politicians across six social media platforms, totaling over 336,000 pieces of abusive content shared by over 190,000 users over a two-month period, the report defines, quantifies, and evaluates the use of online gendered and sexualized disinformation campaigns against women in politics and beyond. It also uses three in-depth interviews and two focus groups to emphasize the impacts gendered abuse and disinformation have on women’s daily lives.

Key conclusions:

  • Gendered and sexualized disinformation is a phenomenon distinct from broad-based gendered abuse and should be defined as such to allow social media platforms to develop effective responses. The research team defines it as “a subset of online gendered abuse that uses false or misleading gender and sex-based narratives against women, often with some degree of coordination, aimed at deterring women from participating in the public sphere. It combines three defining characteristics of online disinformation: falsity, malign intent, and coordination.”
  • Malign creativity—the use of coded language; iterative, context-based visual and textual memes; and other tactics to avoid detection on social media platforms—is the greatest obstacle to detecting and enforcing against online gendered abuse and disinformation.
  • Gendered abuse and disinformation are widespread.
    • Gendered abuse affected 12 of 13 research subjects, while nine out of 13 subjects were targeted with gendered disinformation narratives. » These narratives were racist, transphobic, or sexual in nature. The overwhelming majority of recorded keywords relating to abuse and disinformation were identified on Twitter and directed toward then-Senator, now Vice President Kamala Harris, who accounted for 78% of the total amount of recorded instances.
    • Sexual narratives were by far the most common, accounting for 31% of the total data collected. The majority of these narratives targeted Vice President Kamala Harris. Transphobic and racist narratives only accounted for 1.6% and 0.8%, respectively. While these numbers appear low, these disinformation narratives are also relatively widespread, impacting a number of different research subjects.
    • Online gendered abuse and disinformation is often intersectional in nature, with abusers often engaging with both sex- and race-based narratives, compounding the threat for women of color.
  • Online gendered abuse and disinformation is a national security issue. In interviews with women targeted by Russian, Iranian, or Chinese state media, the research team found that gendered tropes formed the basis of disinformation and smear campaigns against them.
    • This presents a democratic and national security challenge; as adversaries attempt to exploit widespread misogyny, women may be less likely to choose to participate in public life.
  • A number of challenges complicate detecting and responding to online gendered and sexualized abuse and disinformation:
    • Malign creativity is perhaps the greatest challenge to detecting, challenging, and denormalizing online abuse because it is less likely to trigger automated detection and often requires moderate-to-deep situational knowledge to understand.
    • “Platform policies lack a coherent definition of ‘targeted harassment,’ meaning” much of the abuse women face is not violative of platforms’ terms of service, leaving abusers to continue their activities without facing consequences. There is also a lack of intersectional expertise in content moderation, which results in abuse toward women, people of color (POC), and other marginalized communities going unaddressed.
    • Targets bear the onus of detection and reporting. Managing an onslaught of abuse on social media requires time to block, report, and mute abusers. These burdens are discounted and affect their daily lives offline.
  • Social media platforms, lawmakers, and employers have largely ignored this threat to democracy and national security. In order to mitigate the threat, the researchers recommend:
    • Social media platforms should introduce incident reports that allow women to report multiple abusive posts at once to provide more context and a more holistic view of the abuse they are experiencing.
    • They should also regularly update platform classifiers or keywords to reflect and root out malign creativity, improve automated detection methods, and introduce nudges or friction to discourage users from posting abusive content.
    • Finally, they should create a cross-platform consortium to track and respond to online misogyny, similar to existing consortiums which counter terrorism and extremism.
    • Lawmakers should include content moderation transparency reporting requirements in social media regulation bills to improve understanding of the problem and introduce accountability for women’s online protection.
    • They should create clear standards that prohibit the use of gendered and sexualized insults and disinformation in official business.
    • Critically, US lawmakers should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) and include provisions against online gender-based harassment.
    • Employers should develop robust support policies for those facing online harassment and abuse, including providing mental health services, support for employees’ or affiliates’ legal fees and other expenses (such as anti-doxxing service subscriptions).
    • They should also outline clear mechanisms for targets to report such campaigns against them to official communications and human resources staff.

Gendered and sexualized abuse and disinformation online is sprawling, and even assessing it in the broadest terms presents obstacles in detection and analysis. As this report indicates, abusers’ malign creativity means addressing this problem will not be easy. Dedicated, collective efforts by platforms, policymakers, and employers can elevate this from its misidentification as a special interest issue to a question of the right to equal participation in democracy and public life without fear of abuse and harassment.

 

 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Only an incel would think that's a negative.

She already had my vote, but now... 

Do I get to claim my wife's BJ, too?  I'm not sure how this works.

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20 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I was on the fence on whether Biden stays in or make a change to Kamala was a better chance for winning in Nov. I could see pros and cons on both sides (sorry for that phrase). Now that it’s done, and Biden seems to have done it in as gracious a way that could be done, I can’t even put into words how energized I feel by this news.

Thanks Joe — for bearing that asshole in ‘20 and now for thinking of the country first and standing aside so Kamala can deliver the knockout blow in ‘24!

Let’s fucking go!

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Shapiro endorses Kamala

That's where I was too. 

The leadership and rank-and-file of the Minnesota DFL are firmly on board. 

Lets fucking go!

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Do I get to claim my wife's BJ, too?  I'm not sure how this works.

I just checked the bylaws and it appears women can either trade their BJ ticket for a Cunnilingus ticket of equal value, or give it to someone else.

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