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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Walz has a daughter that just graduated college and a son in high school. There are no grandpa vibes. More like your favorite uncle. People will get over him looking older quickly.

He served 24 years in the Army reserves and became a Command Sergeant Major. He taught HS Geography and coached HS football for 20 years. It's probably why he's so good at attacking Vance and Trump. If there's anyone who has seen/heard stupid bullshit and knows how to call it out, it's someone with his professional background. I think he's got great instincts on how to connect with younger people, considering he's been around them his whole life.  

Tim Walz doesn't have time for this MAGA nonsense. What a refreshing approach. 

 

 

People don't care about age. They care about vibes. Trump is just as old as Biden but sounds the same as he did 8 years ago. Walz definitely does not sound or come across like a pitter pattering old.

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5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Walz has a daughter that just graduated college and a son in high school. There are no grandpa vibes. More like your favorite uncle. People will get over him looking older quickly.

He served 24 years in the Army reserves and became a Command Sergeant Major. He taught HS Geography and coached HS football for 20 years. It's probably why he's so good at attacking Vance and Trump. If there's anyone who has seen/heard stupid bullshit and knows how to call it out, it's someone with his professional background. I think he's got great instincts on how to connect with younger people, considering he's been around them his whole life.  

Tim Walz doesn't have time for this MAGA nonsense. What a refreshing approach. 

 

 

Walz would be America's uncle.  Doug would be America's dad. 

We just kicked America's grandpa to the curb so he could enjoy retirement. 

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RE: Trump trying to counter with a female VP.  This year, it just isn't going to work. Any female associated with Trump is a female associated with the Supremes, removing abortion access, everything.  They are saddled with that no matter what they say. 

The only positive a female brings Trump in 2024 is the fact they probably haven't known any couches or other furniture biblically.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Is the Gov Lite ready to succeed him? He’s very young right?

Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan would succeed him, and she was a mover and shaker in the aforementioned Legislature prior to being named Gov. Walz's running mate.

I believe she would also be the first Native American governor in the US.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

JD Vance isnt going to resign. Losing ruins his political career but resigning makes it over immediately with no possibility of winning. 

He will do whatever they tell him to do. 

 

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15 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

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More of the labor unions like Walz

 

 

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

JD Vance isnt going to resign. 

Well, not on his own volition he won’t but it’s not up to him. 

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4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

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One would assume any VP would have to be comfortable being grabbed by the pussy by trump, if not outright raped.  Does that narrow down your field of candidates…even by 1?  Maybe ivanka?

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

JD Vance isnt going to resign. Losing ruins his political career but resigning makes it over immediately with no possibility of winning. 

He'll continue to be a Senator for another 4 years, minimum, and it's fucking Ohio - he has that seat as long as he wants it. 

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6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

He will do whatever they tell him to do. 

 

I don't agree. I think barring serious legal issues you can't coerce him to resign as it's a completely no win situation for him and he's a vindictive piece of shit. 

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19 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Fully agree with you on the cultural bit, just ribbing the poster wanting Gen X to rise up.

Although, re the SSA, they also seem to use 1965: https://www.ssa.gov/open/data/EOY-Generational-Data.html

I've never heard the Kennedy assassination thing but I think I like that definition in theory.

My mistake thanks. I could have sworn they did. 

When I was knee deep in this stuff professionally in the mid 2000’s because we were trying to figure out millennials the 61 vs 65 thing was a topic, because it related to whether millennials started at 77 or 80. The school of thought that I aligned to was that defining a generational cohort from a marketing standpoint is about the number of people that hold a loose common set of attitudes, assumptions, behaviors etc. For that reason I liked 64-80, coinciding with the Kennedy being shot and the election of Reagan.

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9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

The only positive a female brings Trump in 2024 is the fact they probably haven't known any couches or other furniture biblically.

Then again...

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

I don't agree. I think barring serious legal issues you can't coerce him to resign as it's a completely no win situation for him and he's a vindictive piece of shit. 

A no-win situation is completely torpedoing Trump's campaign. People smell blood and they will continue to effectively attack. He's on a path of ending his political career as we speak. 

I hope you're right though and they stick with him. 

 

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6 minutes ago, immamac said:

I don't agree. I think barring serious legal issues you can't coerce him to resign as it's a completely no win situation for him and he's a vindictive piece of shit. 

Come on. This is the Trump GOP.   He will never, ever go against that.  He owes his political career to Trump, for if it wasn't for the endorsement in 22, he doesn't win that seat.  

If he is forced out, he will be loyal until the death of Trump at the earliest.

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1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'm at the point where I think Tapper is secretly full-on maga. 

I'm at the point where I think Tapper is not so secretly full-on stupid.  He always has that confused look a dog gets when you fake-throw the tennis ball.

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13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

My mistake thanks. I could have sworn they did. 

When I was knee deep in this stuff professionally in the mid 2000’s because we were trying to figure out millennials the 61 vs 65 thing was a topic, because it related to whether millennials started at 77 or 80. The school of thought that I aligned to was that defining a generational cohort from a marketing standpoint is about the number of people that hold a loose common set of attitudes, assumptions, behaviors etc. For that reason I liked 64-80, coinciding with the Kennedy being shot and the election of Reagan.

There is no way that I am a millennial and I resent you for even raising the possibility. 

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8 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Come on. This is the Trump GOP.   He will never, ever go against that.  He owes his political career to Trump, for if it wasn't for the endorsement in 22, he doesn't win that seat.  

If he is forced out, he will be loyal until the death of Trump at the earliest.

If he’s forced out, Trump will burn/disavow him so he’s done either way.  If he agrees to drop out, Trump will still burn him as weak for doing it, even if he told him to do it. 

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm at the point where I think Tapper is not so secretly full-on stupid.  He always has that confused look a dog gets when you fake-throw the tennis ball.

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Man, if Vance does have to drop out it will be poetic justice for yet another hypocritical shitbag who sold out his principles to grasp power through the snake oil of MAGA. And Junior will look yet again like dumb Fredo we all know him to be. 

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The weird thing about the Vance pick is he brought no upside, only downside.  He only appealed downscale white (mostly) men and that's Trump's only wheelhouse.  The only angle was that he was younger and Trump thinking he had this in the bag and having a younger VP would help carry on the agenda.  Seems rather arrogant in retrospect.

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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The weird thing about the Vance pick is he brought no upside, only downside.  He only appealed downscale white (mostly) men and that's Trump's only wheelhouse.  The only angle was that he was younger and Trump thinking he had this in the bag and having a younger VP would help carry on the agenda.  Seems rather arrogant in retrospect.

He also brought tech bro money via Thiel. 

If he didn't get Burgum's personal wealth, having JDV tap into that money was probably the best bet.  Moreso now that Elon won't keep the $45m per month pledge.

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The weird thing about the Vance pick is he brought no upside, only downside.  He only appealed downscale white (mostly) men and that's Trump's only wheelhouse.  The only angle was that he was younger and Trump thinking he had this in the bag and having a younger VP would help carry on the agenda.  Seems rather arrogant in retrospect.

Brings in zero new voters, has some particularly weird baggage, tough to listen to and tough to look at. Good call Dotard.
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21 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

A no-win situation is completely torpedoing Trump's campaign. People smell blood and they will continue to effectively attack. He's on a path of ending his political career as we speak. 

I hope you're right though and they stick with him. 

 

He can say he did that on purpose to save the country from Hitler and it would be at least plausible. 

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1 hour ago, Seasick Sailor said:

 

A whole lot of this.  The Dems don't have to be stupid mean (the racism, sexism, etc. route of the GQP, and just flat out being assholes).  But they do have to fight back, by humiliating and shaming MAGA not for what they are (don't call them "the perfect embodiment of trailer trash," even though they are), but for what they do and say.  Because....they are weird freaks, who are fucking pointlessly mean and assholish.  Call that out, point at it, and visibly shake your head.  When your opponent is busy smearing shit all over himself, don't politely ignore it.  Point at him, say "what in the hell?  Why would anyone smear shit on themselves?  That's weird as hell."  Then shake your head and walk away.

Most people don't want to be associated with something that's just weird and mean (a lot do...it's pathetic, but it's true....but most people don't).  So, give them an avenue and permission to do just that, to look at MAGA and go "dude....no thanks.  Y'all are some fucked up shit."

49 minutes ago, safe sex said:

I'm not sure that Trump is capable of having a woman as a running mate. JD was picked because Trump knows that he won't be disloyal in a critical moment for him like Pence was. I don't think there's any way that Trump can feel confident about Nikki Haley protecting him similarly. And what other woman could it possibly be from the the Republicans?

There are only two kinds of women in Trumpworld.  1) Women who are hot, who he wants to fuck (Melania, Ivanka, Noem).  2) Women who are ugly dogs, who he can only tolerate for short windows of time (every other woman).  That's it.  Women aren't human beings with agency to him.  They are, at best, ornaments and dick holsters.  They have no purpose or relevance beyond that.

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1 minute ago, shakahorn said:

DeSantis

I am not sure how late in the cycle one can change their residency.  Trump would have to, as both DeSantis and Rubio are elected officials for the state of Florida. 

Cheney changed his late July 2000.  

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6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The weird thing about the Vance pick is he brought no upside, only downside.  He only appealed downscale white (mostly) men and that's Trump's only wheelhouse.  The only angle was that he was younger and Trump thinking he had this in the bag and having a younger VP would help carry on the agenda.  Seems rather arrogant in retrospect.

Yup, Trump miscalculated, he thought he had it locked up against Biden and wanted to run up the score and doubled down on MAGA and ignored swing voters.

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Does Walz help win the election from an EC perspective. Sounds like he solidifies MN but what does he do for PA, WI, MI, AZ, NC or GA? Curious on what the thinking is there.

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Someone mentioned on twitter that if trunp canned Vance, Harris would have the argument that you can’t trust trump’s judgement. 
 

I like that, although it’s always been true.

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Posted (edited)
Just now, TexEx15 said:

Does Walz help win the election from an EC perspective. Sounds like he solidifies MN but what does he do for PA, WI, MI, AZ, NC or GA? Curious on what the thinking is there.

Minnesota has a lot of WWC union voters like WI, MI, PA

Harris herself is what is opening paths with NC, GA and AZ

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55 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I mean, being in the GOP at this point categorically means full loyalty to Donald Trump. Look at Haley. Made a lot, a lot of noise in the primary and ultimately offered a whole-hearted endorsement. Trump is the platform, Trump is the party. Any female with an R by their name would ultimately pass this test.

It's legitimately more likely he doesn't think any of them are hot enough.

He wants you to still kiss the ring, even if you've shown disloyalty in the past. But you will never be trusted as much as someone who has been loyal the whole time.

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8 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Someone mentioned on twitter that if trunp canned Vance, Harris would have the argument that you can’t trust trump’s judgement. 
 

I like that, although it’s always been true.

You definitely can tie that into him claiming he doesn't know about Project 2025 or that he thinks some of it is ridiculous. Can we afford to take him at his word that he won't change his mind? Of course, not but this is your pitch to average voters and morons. 

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29 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

There is no way that I am a millennial and I resent you for even raising the possibility. 

Trying to carve out a special exception to get the generation you want is very millennial.

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Exclusive: CNN survey finds 48 states say Harris can get on ballot instead of Biden, rejecting claim switch breaks state laws

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/harris-ballot-legal-obstacles-48-states/index.html

The election authorities of at least 48 states, both Republicans and Democrats, say there are no obstacles that would prevent Vice President Kamala Harris from getting on election ballots if she becomes the official Democratic presidential nominee, as expected.

The findings of a CNN survey of all 50 states undercut the claims of House Speaker Mike Johnson, who said both before and after President Joe Biden dropped out of the race on Sunday that there are legal “impediments” in some states to a party switching presidential candidates as the Democrats did. There was not a single state election authority that told CNN Harris would face a ballot issue as the official nominee; election authorities in two states, Florida and Montana, did not respond to requests for comment, but a review of the states’ ballot access rules suggests Harris is not likely to face an issue there either.

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The legal impediments will be R legal goons filing shit and asking for injunctions until said shit can be heard. If they get a hack judge and happen to win something, all the better. 
 

Anything to chum the waters of the idiot ocean with conspiratorial fraud  questions. 

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