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Disappointed it's not Walz but Beshar is a good move if that's the plan. Red State Governor who can appeal to the middle. I've heard from people in Kentucky that south Pennsylvania is referred to as Pennsytucky because they share a lot of the same demos. If he can appeal to that portion and help wrap up PA then let's go. Walz will be there to help out. 

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

I wouldn't read too much into that Beshear tweet. 

 

This is a very typical move though - everyone caught wind of the enhanced security detail outside Vance's house days before he was named as VP. 

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25 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

That's....I have no words. Incredible.

It's a much better way to clown on them than calling them racist or Nazis or whatever. Normies hear that and check out. Normies hear you call them weird and they're like "oh yeah, I agree."

Further, those words have been tuned out. Weird is props up the ears of the attackers and the defenders. It's also, like using irony, difficult to fend off. Trying to prove you're not weird just makes you appear weirder. It's dismissive and evokes laughs about whomever has been so pronounced. 

"Weirdo. Come at me, bro!"

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If it's Beshear, that's a good choice.  I've warmed up to Walz but Beshear does a great job of getting right leaning whites to vote for him.  (I'm not sure why but he does.)  He's also younger, which I like.

Harris won't win KY but he'll help in the rest of the Midwest and with suburban whites nationwide.  (Not winning Ohio, either.)

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

This is a very typical move though - everyone caught wind of the enhanced security detail outside Vance's house days before he was named as VP. 

Yes, if he's getting any SS protection at all, it's him.

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27 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Damn… at least have the decency to do it over the drain.

And give a reach-around!

Oh, wait. That's something else that I know nothing whatsoever about.

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Not to rain on our "Trumpers are disengaging" parade but my anecdotal evidence is the opposite. Most of my clients are older white dudes and I've seen a Trump car flag and two Trump hats in the last 2 hours. These people don't matter of course in Texas and were always gonna vote R.

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11 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

My gf just drove from St. Louis down to San Antonio the back way ... down through East Texas (Paris, Sulphur Springs etc ..) without going on any major interstates and said she did not see ONE ... not ONE ... Trump yard sign or flag. That's significant.   I think even his supporters are tiring of his antics. 

Yeah, but I'll tell you that in Preston Hollow the Trump yard signs are out in force.

I'm also going to observe that Preston Hollow is a heavily Jewish neighborhood.  I also saw a couple "USA Stands With Israel" signs.  So maybe that reflects that issue more than any widespread enthusiasm for Trump.

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2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Yeah, but I'll tell you that in Preston Hollow the Trump yard signs are out in force.

I'm also going to observe that Preston Hollow is a heavily Jewish neighborhood.  I also saw a couple "USA Stands With Israel" signs.  So maybe that reflects that issue more than any widespread enthusiasm for Trump.

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More about the couch fucker

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https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-couch-sex-joke-author-speaks-2024-7

The American electorate is fully in the grip of Couch Discourse.

On July 15, shortly after former President Donald Trump announced Sen. JD Vance would be joining his ticket, the X user @rickrudescalves posted a joke: "can't say for sure but he might be the first vp pick to have admitted in a ny times bestseller to fucking an Inside-out latex glove shoved between two couch cushions (vance, hillbilly elegy, pp. 179-181)."

Needless to say, pages 179 through 181 of "Hillbilly Elegy" are not devoted to an account of Vance's couch surfing, and there's no evidence that he's ever done anything to a couch other than sit on one.

Still, a lot of people found it funny. @rickrudescalves hid the post within a week of publishing it, but the couch joke had already left an impression.

Over the past week, for every seven people searching Google for "JD Vance," one person has searched "JD Vance couch," according to Google Trends. Memes of Vance fantasizing about living-room furnishings have flooded the internet. Despite being, very obviously, a joke, the post was debunked in two fact-checks by mainstream media outlets — one by Snopes and one by The Associated Press (which later deleted the fact-check from its website). Foreseeably and perversely, those debunkings propelled Couch Discourse into the mainstream.

The rumor's spread has also heralded a new style of online engagement from Democrats. In marked contrast to the Obama-era decorum of "when they go low, we go high," Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign has embraced a tongue-in-cheek tone, including writing on X, "JD Vance does not couch his hatred for women."

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Couch Discourse even made it to TV. "Where does someone even get an idea like that?" the "Late Show" host Stephen Colbert asked last week.

In a grocery store, the author of the post told Business Insider. In a phone conversation this weekend, he said the idea had struck him while he was shopping the day Vance was announced as Trump's running mate.

BI tracked down the post's author, who we'll call Rick, in keeping with his former X screen name, @rickrudescalves. He changed his X screen name and protected his account last week because he was uncomfortable with the amount of attention the post generated. He asked not to be named because he's not authorized by his employer to speak with the media, but BI has confirmed his identity.

Rick does not work in politics. He has a desk job. He's on the political left and said he viewed Vance from "a place of irreverence if not outright disrespect," in part because he shares an upbringing not dissimilar to the hard-knock childhood Vance describes in "Hillbilly Elegy." The political conclusions he drew from those experiences, though, differ markedly from Vance's, he said.

The fact that so many people across the political spectrum appeared to believe his post to be true hasn't bolstered his faith in the critical-thinking skills of the electorate, Rick said — though he accepts that blame for the misapprehension starts with him. "In terms of media literacy, and those kinds of things, I guess I was already in the mud rolling around," he said.

He's mildly concerned that he's now viewed as peddling election misinformation, which, he said, was not his intent. He posted what he posted, he added, because he sees in Vance an ineffable quality he believes is best approximated with the moniker "couch-fucker."

"I have really enjoyed thinking about his team and all of the idiots associated with him having to grapple with this," Rick said. "I think by the time the AP thing came out, I was talking to one of my sisters and saying, 'Oh, yeah, Trump is already calling him a couch-fucker.'"

Rick is not the first person to post an absurd joke that ended up roiling political circles after flying over too many heads. In 2016, a Twitter user posted that they "love working at the post office in Columbus, Ohio, and ripping up absentee ballots that vote for Trump." The Gateway Pundit and Rush Limbaugh gave the post credulous coverage, eliciting a statement from the US Postal Service and, eventually, an FBI investigation.

Perhaps, Rick said, whether Vance actually had carnal knowledge of one or more couches is immaterial. Rick suggested Vance making love to a couch may best be viewed as what Werner Herzog has described as the "ecstatic truth" — in Herzog's words, "a kind of truth that is the enemy of the merely factual," encompassing falsehoods that "make some essence of the man visible."

As for his decision to include a fake citation in a post about a man having sex with a couch, Rick claims highbrow inspiration. "Not to egghead it up," he said, but he was an English major "and I do have certain literary tastes." Listing page numbers was "in the vein of" authors Jorge Luis Borges and John Fowles, who used excerpts and citations, real and invented, to lend an air of authenticity to their fiction. "It's something I've found funny my entire life," he said.

He said he was also inspired by an anecdote about former President Lyndon Johnson, who apocryphally asked a campaign manager to invent a rumor that one of Johnson's political opponents liked having sex with pigs.

"Christ, we can't get away with calling him a pig-fucker," the campaign manager responded, the journalist Hunter S. Thompson recounted in "Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72." "Nobody's going to believe a thing like that."

"I know," Johnson replied. "But let's make the sonofabitch deny it."

So far, as the comedian John Oliver noted gleefully in a "Last Week Tonight" segment Sunday, Vance has chosen not to deny it.

A spokesperson for Vance did not respond to a request for comment.

 

 

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"Weird, creepy, and cringe."

We could just repeat those three words from now until November 5, and it would basically summarize everything that comes out of a Republican candidate's mouth.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

"Weird, creepy, and cringe."

We could just repeat those three words from now until November 5, and it would basically summarize everything that comes out of a Republican candidate's mouth.

I've said this in other posts but they're not wrong.  We all have THAT person on our social media if not our own families.  They're a little off.

20% of Republicans thought Taylor Swift was a CIA plant.  That's like 40-45% of the country.  They're insane.

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14 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


Oh….its real.

A gift from my half brother, a Minnesota native:

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Dare one of yall to make this gem:

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Yknow, if somehow Mexico had hung onto the land up to the Canadian border, they would have needed people to settle it. And hungry Germans and Scandinavians still would have shown up, just like Mormons and Mennonites did in this timeline's Mexico. In such a world, this would have been Northern Mexican cuisine, ooo siiii.

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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

So after all the time and effort to convict DT the galaxy brain strategy is to pivot from "criminal" to "weird".

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This is weird 

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4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

So after all the time and effort to convict DT the galaxy brain strategy is to pivot from "criminal" to "weird".

Bold Strategy Cotton GIF by MOODMAN

Oh there's plenty of room for both. Also "rapist", "fraud", "conman", and "insurrectionist", if they get bored with criminal and weird. I'd be fine with a steady rotation of all of them.

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4 hours ago, Pancho said:

My sisters church in Dallas lol

 

 

He basically said y’all done messed with the wrong mofos

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As much as I may prefer that message, it has no place in the pulpit.  Pay fuckin taxes.

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Not directed at you but...
  • Equal rights
  • Fair pay and worker conditions
  • Economic security
  • Healthcare affordability
  • Improved education
  • Decreased gun violence
  • Improved environmental quality
  • Improved civic involvement
Only in America is that a liberal left agenda.
In every other civilized country, those are the goals for everyone.  It's the details on how to achieve it where the differences are found.  What a fucking country.
 

I’m not arguing it’s right or wrong. I’m just arguing that it’s a fact there are a bunch of people that believe that way (probably due to years of Fox brainwashing) and they could really help her win.

The opening is there because of Trump and all his bs and she should figure out a way to get their vote. Pounding the same message probably doesn’t win them very easily.

Personally IDGAF who’s right. I just want the orange cunt to stay out of the White House. So I hope she is smart about how she plays the game.
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1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

we sort of thought the guy being a criminal and a rapist would actually be a negative to people like you but it turns out all we had to do was call y'all weird and you flip the fuck out.

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12 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

So after all the time and effort to convict DT the galaxy brain strategy is to pivot from "criminal" to "weird".

Bold Strategy Cotton GIF by MOODMAN

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Just now, G650 said:

It never ceases to amaze me someone who replies in gifs 75% of the time has the weakest gif game ever.

He will insert a gif in response to this now. 

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

It never ceases to amaze me someone who replies in gifs 75% of the time has the weakest gif game ever.

Too many repeats, not enough fresh material.  

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Too many repeats, not enough fresh material.  

I'd be happy if they were just relevant. They are like visual non sequitors

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3 hours ago, royiv said:

Not a fan of preaching politics from the pulpit. We criticize it when guys like Jeffress and Young do it so we should hold the other side to the same standard. Keep politics out of religion and keep religion out of politics.

Kind of feel the same but I also see @Pancho‘s perspective below as well.

 

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

Sorry but Blacks are tired of listening to what trunp and the radical right keep saying about Black people. It’s demeaning, anti American, and we’re tired of always having to be the nice ones when we’re being attacked. 
 

Calling us DEI hires? Yeah I’m fine with a Black preacher fighting back in this case.

See note above.

 

3 hours ago, South Austin said:

You misheard that.  It's Gary Peterson.  And talk about a home run.  Do it, Kamala.

TBH, that’s the name that immediately came to mind when she said it.

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34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

As much as I may prefer that message, it has no place in the pulpit.  Pay fuckin taxes.

I mean, I agree, but the right has been campaigning from the pulpit for 50 fucking years without repercussion, so why the fuck not do it for the other side too? Otherwise, you're just ceding an entire avenue of outreach to only one side. 

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