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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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Missed this a couple of weeks ago, but never saw it posted, so nsiap. Cuban doing more good work, shredding Trump on the news networks. 

 

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14 hours ago, Js1 said:

Must stand for Old Trump Fellaters 

Reminds me of a joke I read today ...

How do you make a Republican fall to his knees?

Paint your d!ck orange.

 

14 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Making the man: to understand Trump, look at his relationship with his dad  | Donald Trump | The Guardian

Yep. This comes from the same grandson of a German immigrant who said that success can be accounted for by genetics.

Interesting. Too bad we didn't look into Trump's genes so we could have seen that he'd be a fraud, a felon, a fascist, a traitor, and an aspiring dictator.

9 hours ago, Js1 said:

Don’t worry. He’s going to Aurora, Colorado the day before that. I’m sure that’s gonna go well ( @Chewbacca)

Aurora is infamous for some newsworthy events.

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There is merit that traditional media has a place in political interview but they’re in the position of being ignored because they refused to hold politicians accountable especially Trump. Looking at you Fox.

trump will tell Fox viewers that he will reverse high prices and get them back to when he was previously president. That’s impossible but Fox won’t call him on it.

Harris assertion that her anti price gouging laws will lower prices is also bs. However why go on face the nation or Anderson 360 and have them hold her feet to that fire.

NYT/Siena:

National - Harris +3

TX - Trump +6

FL - Trump +13 (lol super outlier, no state is shifting 10 points right in 4 years)

NYT/Siena:
National - Harris +3
TX - Trump +6
FL - Trump +13 (lol super outlier, no state is shifting 10 points right in 4 years)

NYT has gone so far off the rails this cycle that I have no idea if we are supposed to view these polls as complimentary, however Harris +3 nationally in a Florida Trump +13 environment would be great news in the swing states and mean a likely runaway electoral victory.

My criticism is STOP POLLING STATES DURING/AFTER/BEFORE major hurricanes 

3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:


NYT has gone so far off the rails this cycle that I have no idea if we are supposed to view these polls as complimentary, however Harris +3 nationally in a Florida Trump +13 environment would be great news in the swing states and mean a likely runaway electoral victory.

Yep, NYT has something off with their polls.  And others need to stop thinking they’re putting their thumbs on the scale. Most likely they have a flawed model that can only be adjusted when they eventually compare it to actual results.

 

11 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

I'm surprised how the 'close the border' appeals to many Latinos. And Catholic I guess.

Same energy as many of our newly upper middle white trash conservative posters.

NYT probably has one intern trying to make all their polls with ChatGPT

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34 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There is merit that traditional media has a place in political interview but they’re in the position of being ignored because they refused to hold politicians accountable especially Trump. Looking at you Fox.

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You can't choose to fact check Harris but not Trump.  You can't harp on Walz misspeaking and then let Vance lie with impunity about Haitians and post-birth abortions. 

If the media isn't going to do its job to protect it's precious access to the GOP, then fuck giving them interviews. 

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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/harris-medicare-home-care-seniors-00182782

Another policy being introduced today

The vice president will propose establishing a home care benefit through Medicare focused on helping families afford the cost of caring for seniors at home instead of in nursing facilities, according to a senior campaign official granted anonymity to share details of the proposal.

The senior official said the proposal would help older Americans age at home and avoid the costs of in-facility care, which can be thousands of dollars more a month than in-home care. The benefit would cover the costs of various home care services, including in-home health aides.

Harris will also use her appearance on “The View” to appeal to the so-called sandwich generation, the roughly quarter of Americans who are both raising children and caring for aging parents — and that Harris campaign data shows contains a large percentage of remaining undecided voters, the campaign official said.

39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/harris-medicare-home-care-seniors-00182782

Another policy being introduced today

The vice president will propose establishing a home care benefit through Medicare focused on helping families afford the cost of caring for seniors at home instead of in nursing facilities, according to a senior campaign official granted anonymity to share details of the proposal.

The senior official said the proposal would help older Americans age at home and avoid the costs of in-facility care, which can be thousands of dollars more a month than in-home care. The benefit would cover the costs of various home care services, including in-home health aides.

Harris will also use her appearance on “The View” to appeal to the so-called sandwich generation, the roughly quarter of Americans who are both raising children and caring for aging parents — and that Harris campaign data shows contains a large percentage of remaining undecided voters, the campaign official said.

Here come the lobbies for nursing homes to decry this evil poposal...

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

FL - Trump +13 (lol super outlier, no state is shifting 10 points right in 4 years)

at least they aren't guilty of herding.

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/harris-medicare-home-care-seniors-00182782

Another policy being introduced today

The vice president will propose establishing a home care benefit through Medicare focused on helping families afford the cost of caring for seniors at home instead of in nursing facilities, according to a senior campaign official granted anonymity to share details of the proposal.

The senior official said the proposal would help older Americans age at home and avoid the costs of in-facility care, which can be thousands of dollars more a month than in-home care. The benefit would cover the costs of various home care services, including in-home health aides.

Harris will also use her appearance on “The View” to appeal to the so-called sandwich generation, the roughly quarter of Americans who are both raising children and caring for aging parents — and that Harris campaign data shows contains a large percentage of remaining undecided voters, the campaign official said.

Working in Home Health, this is something that really moves the needle for me since I see families struggling with this everyday. I also see it on the horizon for myself as my parents get older. I don’t think people realize how important this is

Morning Consult - Harris +6

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19 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Working in Home Health, this is something that really moves the needle for me since I see families struggling with this everyday. I also see it on the horizon for myself as my parents get older. I don’t think people realize how important this is

Elder care is such a mess.  Ignoring all the stress and challenges in health care, and just focused on money: It amazes me how many folks are strongly opposed to the estate tax, but have no idea what affect elder care has on middle class generational wealth.  

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Morning Consult - Harris +6

 

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/harris-medicare-home-care-seniors-00182782

Another policy being introduced today

The vice president will propose establishing a home care benefit through Medicare focused on helping families afford the cost of caring for seniors at home instead of in nursing facilities, according to a senior campaign official granted anonymity to share details of the proposal.

The senior official said the proposal would help older Americans age at home and avoid the costs of in-facility care, which can be thousands of dollars more a month than in-home care. The benefit would cover the costs of various home care services, including in-home health aides.

Harris will also use her appearance on “The View” to appeal to the so-called sandwich generation, the roughly quarter of Americans who are both raising children and caring for aging parents — and that Harris campaign data shows contains a large percentage of remaining undecided voters, the campaign official said.

Holy shit, this would be a huge fucking deal. 

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7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

won’t make national news at all

Isn't this stupid cunt getting classified reports now?  Any info he gets goes straight to Putin.  The motherfucker needs to be executed. 

I hope that goes through. I didn't raise all these kids to live out my last years in a nursing home.

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

My criticism is STOP POLLING STATES DURING/AFTER/BEFORE major hurricanes 

Or just stop polling.

My mom has been able to stay in her home due to in-home health care and avoid going to a nursing home. Luckily, my father bought a long term health policy that covers about 50% of the in-home service. The rest comes from her retirement savings, pension, social security. Medicare paying a portion of that would be great. 

But I guess I should just do the Bill Whitaker 60 Minutes response which is "but how are you going to get it through Congress". That really annoyed me about his interview with her. So I guess we should just vote for Trump because he has more of a chance to get things through Congress? Somehow Biden was able to get a lot of shit through this stupid ass Congress. 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

My mom has been able to stay in her home due to in-home health care and avoid going to a nursing home. Luckily, my father bought a long term health policy that covers about 50% of the in-home service. The rest comes from her retirement savings, pension, social security. Medicare paying a portion of that would be great. 

But I guess I should just do the Bill Whitaker 60 Minutes response which is "but how are you going to get it through Congress". That really annoyed me about his interview with her. So I guess we should just vote for Trump because he has more of a chance to get things through Congress? Somehow Biden was able to get a lot of shit through this stupid ass Congress. 

No one asks Trump how he’s paying for a national deportation force or a pregnancy database that monitors interstate travel of pregnant women or this or that. 

The answer is same for either party - you win a majority in both chambers and pass it. Duh. 

Bill Whitaker was being extremely antagonizing about that. “How do you pay for it?” uh idk Bill, taxing the top earners that has been discussed for 4 fucking years 

That’s what Kamala should have said. “Well we know republicans only care about the top 1%, so we need Americans to vote Democrat so we take the House, Senate, and Presidency so we can get this done for regular Americans”

As to the question regarding racists and trump, I would have said, “Look I don’t believe all of his supporters are racist, but I do believe all racists are supporting him”

 

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43 minutes ago, Pancho said:

won’t make national news at all

Umm…

I thought Harris and Walz did well and looked great on "60 Minutes" and holy cow Maricopa Co, AZ is crazy town USA.


What’s so crazy about Maricopa County?
9 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

 


What’s so crazy about Maricopa County?

 

The Republican Party of AZ is batshit crazy.  They make Texas Republicans look moderate.  It's because those people like the in actual desert.  Not Phoenix, but the actual real desert middle of nowhere.

He has said before the DEM Firewall needs to be like ~390,000 for the presidential level and ~350,000 at the senate level for Dems to feel good. 

That's 1/4 of the firewall with 4 weeks to go.

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He has said before the DEM Firewall needs to be like ~390,000 for the presidential level and ~350,000 at the senate level for Dems to feel good. 

That's 1/4 of the firewall with 4 weeks to go.

 

Yeah, his post yesterday, when the firewall was about ~74k, said Dems would feel good heading into Election Day with ~390k (for president) and 350k (for the Senate race).  4 weeks is a long time to pump that number up - it was just shy of 20% yesterday and now it is at 29% a day later.

36 minutes ago, berlinerbaer said:

Umm…

Russia, Russia, Russia.

 

3 hours ago, Hawndoh said:

NYT probably has one intern trying to make all their polls with ChatGPT

While dealing with rfk jr pawing at her in bed. 

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yeah, his post yesterday, when the firewall was about ~74k, said Dems would feel good heading into Election Day with ~390k (for president) and 350k (for the Senate race).  4 weeks is a long time to pump that number up - it was just shy of 20% yesterday and now it is at 29% a day later.

I just did like ten seconds of googling and see that Pennsylvania calls their early voting "in person mail ballot" voting and what the fuck does that mean? 

Trump could appear on stage drinking the blood of Christian Children screaming 'Hail Satan' and it would make no difference at this point. If you are still going to vote for him after everything he has done, I hardly see how him potentially passing on secrets to Russia is going to move the needle.

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I just did like ten seconds of googling and see that Pennsylvania calls their early voting "in person mail ballot" voting and what the fuck does that mean? 

It is when you fill out your mail in ballot and deliver it in person.

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

Holy shit, this would be a huge fucking deal. 

Agreed - good policy.  Interested in the cost of it, but something truly needed 

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I just did like ten seconds of googling and see that Pennsylvania calls their early voting "in person mail ballot" voting and what the fuck does that mean? 

If you are a registered Pennsylvania voter, you have the convenient option of applying for a mail ballot in person at their county elections office, then completing the ballot while there. In one visit, voters can apply for and submit their mail ballot. 

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13 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

He should hydrate better.

 

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3 hours ago, Js1 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/harris-medicare-home-care-seniors-00182782

Another policy being introduced today

The vice president will propose establishing a home care benefit through Medicare focused on helping families afford the cost of caring for seniors at home instead of in nursing facilities, according to a senior campaign official granted anonymity to share details of the proposal.

The senior official said the proposal would help older Americans age at home and avoid the costs of in-facility care, which can be thousands of dollars more a month than in-home care. The benefit would cover the costs of various home care services, including in-home health aides.

Harris will also use her appearance on “The View” to appeal to the so-called sandwich generation, the roughly quarter of Americans who are both raising children and caring for aging parents — and that Harris campaign data shows contains a large percentage of remaining undecided voters, the campaign official said.

 

2 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Working in Home Health, this is something that really moves the needle for me since I see families struggling with this everyday. I also see it on the horizon for myself as my parents get older. I don’t think people realize how important this is

 

1 hour ago, Tuco said:

Elder care is such a mess.  Ignoring all the stress and challenges in health care, and just focused on money: It amazes me how many folks are strongly opposed to the estate tax, but have no idea what affect elder care has on middle class generational wealth.  

I like the concept but we're getting to the point of raising our credit card limit so we can go to the mall later today. I'm in favor of adding to necessary govt services but we never want to address the costs. Most likely the only way to get this proposal passed is to give the Republicans a tax break. Receive less in tax revenue and spend more. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I like the concept but we're getting to the point of raising our credit card limit so we can go to the mall later today. I'm in favor of adding to necessary govt services but we never want to address the costs. Most likely the only way to get this proposal passed is to give the Republicans a tax break. Receive less in tax revenue and spend more. 

We'll see what the proposal actually looks like, but by its summary term, this is the key point: "The vice president will propose establishing a home care benefit through Medicare focused on helping families afford the cost of caring for seniors at home instead of in nursing facilities."

We already spend a shitload of Medicare dollars on elder care.  We just spend those dollars in nursing facilities.  If we can spend similar dollars on home health care, often with better care, outcomes, and dignity, that would be a really good move.  Even if it was a 1 for 1, and folks with even moderate means could supplement the benefit to pay for home health option, that would be big.

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