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Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, royiv said:

I don’t think your sentence above makes you out to be the next Shakespeare.

no, but he's got the monkey smashing keys schtick down

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I am in the minority, but I think a terrible recession or depression is the only thing that will make many people realize that we are all in this together. You have a huge part of the country thinking that the only reason you are poor and down and out is because you are lazy and stupid. Our bubble of domestic prosperity supports this lie in many peoples minds.   When they lose their job and their homeless and hungry and their family breaks up,  those idiots then realize that bad things can happen that have nothing to do with your work ethic or education or devotion to God.    

I don’t think you can reach these people unless things go really really south.   When people are standing in the same bread line and hoping to get a new deal type job so they can feed their family -we may get a reset to a time when most of America realized we needed a living wage, healthcare, unions, and to unite against the monied class and the politicians supporting them who make it difficult for us to have a decent life.

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1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

He's swinging for the fences in terms of NYC affordability

If by “swinging for the fences” you mean proposing to spend a lot on relatively few deeply affordable housing while tying up actual solutions to the housing shortage for years with the activist flypaper of comprehensive planning, you are right. 


 

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29 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

As I am nearing retirement age I cannot get behind a recession, let alone a depression.  Nope.

get back to work, old man! this regime needs your toil to pad their coffers. get to it!

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

If by “swinging for the fences” you mean proposing to spend a lot on relatively few deeply affordable housing while tying up actual solutions to the housing shortage for years with the activist flypaper of comprehensive planning, you are right. 


 

Hey now, you forgot about opening up the floodgates of private development as long as there’s 20% inclusionary zoning, 100% union labor, rent control on all new development, thorough environmental review, thorough community review, just a little more community review…

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12 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Black children being used as bait for gator hunting definitely wasn’t common in practice, and may not have even actually ever happened. But it was certainly a VERY popular and extraordinarily racist and dehumanizing trope. 
I like to believe that if Florida fans knew what the ‘gator bait’ chant referred to they wouldn’t use it, but I’m probably kidding myself. 

5 minutes ago, We’reTexas said:

Hey now, you forgot about opening up the floodgates of private development as long as there’s 20% inclusionary zoning, 100% union labor, rent control on all new development, thorough environmental review, thorough community review, just a little more community review…

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So as this bill appears ready to pass, I think it is widely understood that the biggest part of this is tax cuts for the rich. Has anyone even stopped to just ask WHY that is needed?  I don’t think they have, nor do I think there is a reason other than “because we can”  

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So as this bill appears ready to pass, I think it is widely understood that the biggest part of this is tax cuts for the rich. Has anyone even stopped to just ask WHY that is needed?  I don’t think they have, nor do I think there is a reason other than “because we can”  

Exactly. They don’t even bother with the trickle down voodoo shit anymore. It’s just “Fuck you, this is mine.”

You have to at least admire the honesty of the current generation of Republican class warriors. 

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54 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

As I am nearing retirement age I cannot get behind a recession, let alone a depression.  Nope.

I hear you man.  Hell, I’m 70 and don’t want Social Security and Medicare busted.   I have kids that I want to have a happy life.   I just don’t want a Trump dictator run America - with our huge military and nuclear arsenal that we have to become the country that North Korea hopes it could. 

To that end I would suffer absolutely anything to prevent that.   The thing is, I don’t think that any of us have any control or what’s going to happen.  I’m just saying I hope it is terrible, and that this results in a national mental reset.   My wanting it or you NOT wanting it is really not in play.  I have zero idea how to accomplish this reset without a tremendous amount of pain to the country.    

I have a naïve fantasy that we will vote the GOP out in the next congressional election and things swing back toward outrage at the things Trump does, but if Trump and the GOP haven’t turned off people by now, I’m not sure how much it will take to turn them off.  

I fear they never will - absent great harm to the country

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23 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So as this bill appears ready to pass, I think it is widely understood that the biggest part of this is tax cuts for the rich. Has anyone even stopped to just ask WHY that is needed?  I don’t think they have, nor do I think there is a reason other than “because we can”  

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I am in the minority, but I think a terrible recession or depression is the only thing that will make many people realize that we are all in this together. You have a huge part of the country thinking that the only reason you are poor and down and out is because you are lazy and stupid. Our bubble of domestic prosperity supports this lie in many peoples minds.   When they lose their job and their homeless and hungry and their family breaks up,  those idiots then realize that bad things can happen that have nothing to do with your work ethic or education or devotion to God.    

I don’t think you can reach these people unless things go really really south.   When people are standing in the same bread line and hoping to get a new deal type job so they can feed their family -we may get a reset to a time when most of America realized we needed a living wage, healthcare, unions, and to unite against the monied class and the politicians supporting them who make it difficult for us to have a decent life.

This is where I am at.  It NEEDS to happen, unfortunately.  We have been on this path for decades...since at least Reagan.  Cultural wars, voodoo economics, and war on facts/logic/education.  There is no gentle landing option, we have tried that and it doesn't work.   We need a very very painful experience to hopefully snap a decent chunk of people out of this fever dream.  Alternative is complete societal collapse.  

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27 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So as this bill appears ready to pass, I think it is widely understood that the biggest part of this is tax cuts for the rich. Has anyone even stopped to just ask WHY that is needed?  I don’t think they have, nor do I think there is a reason other than “because we can”  

The answer isn't very hard. You give me millions to campaign and vote on legislation the way it helps you most, and I'll give you huge tax breaks. 

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14 hours ago, troph said:

I was wondering the same thing, maybe better and expanded social programs for all, expanded Medicare, education, labor unions, higher taxes to pay for it, etc, etc, but latent racism,  homophobia and transphobia. 

This but unironically. Part of why Democrats need to center their identity around middle and working class economic interests and not on social issues is because there are core elements of the base that can be quite homophobic, transphobic and racist. And this is at least as true among black and Hispanic democrats as it is for white union democrats. 
those groups are tolerant enough to vote together with LBGTQ+ and other minorities, but the co-belligerents can’t stick together without working and middle class economic interests to glue them together. 

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9 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

This is where I am at.  It NEEDS to happen, unfortunately.  We have been on this path for decades...since at least Reagan.  Cultural wars, voodoo economics, and war on facts/logic/education.  There is no gentle landing option, we have tried that and it doesn't work.   We need a very very painful experience to hopefully snap a decent chunk of people out of this fever dream.  Alternative is complete societal collapse.  

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11 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

This is the end of America

Naah.  It ended quite a while ago.  It's just still going through its death throes.  It will take a while for the violent convulsions to stop, but we were dead a while ago.

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Naah.  It ended quite a while ago.  It's just still going through its death throes.  It will take a while for the violent convulsions to stop, but we were dead a while ago.

I fear those convulsions have not begun. We are just seeing twitching. 

 

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2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

I am in the minority, but I think a terrible recession or depression is the only thing that will make many people realize that we are all in this together. You have a huge part of the country thinking that the only reason you are poor and down and out is because you are lazy and stupid. Our bubble of domestic prosperity supports this lie in many peoples minds.   When they lose their job and their homeless and hungry and their family breaks up,  those idiots then realize that bad things can happen that have nothing to do with your work ethic or education or devotion to God.    

I don’t think you can reach these people unless things go really really south.   When people are standing in the same bread line and hoping to get a new deal type job so they can feed their family -we may get a reset to a time when most of America realized we needed a living wage, healthcare, unions, and to unite against the monied class and the politicians supporting them who make it difficult for us to have a decent life.

 

2 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

As I am nearing retirement age I cannot get behind a recession, let alone a depression.  Nope.

I can't hope for a recession, depression or war but one of those is the only thing that will change what some people believe. We already know that they don't care about others, so something would have to happen to them personally before they would want a change.

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3 minutes ago, theaveragejon said:

Yeah fuck that. I’m a  millennial, I’m used to this country robbing me and my peers. But we’re now robbing from my seven month old. Fuck these boomer politicians, pieces of shit Gen Xers. 

There's an answer for when you find yourself on the Titanic.  Get the fuck off.

Seriously, if you have any means or mechanism and you are NOT looking at abandoning this doomed ship, you're doing it wrong.

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11 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Chip Roy was full of piss and vinegar when railing against the BBB. He was almost eloquent in his condemnation of the ways the bill would harm his constituents. Then Trump offered him merch and he caved.

"Chip Roy sold you out for a Trump autograph" Would look good on a billboard on I35 around San Marcos. 

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3 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Canada looking good

Company asked me where I thought we should put an office in Africa. I said if you are sending me can be Timbuktu, Mogadishu, whatever. 

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I'm just glad the public lands stuff was taken out.  Some form of this was always going to pass.  My focus is just on keeping my job so I can keep my health insurance now.  Sucks for a bunch of people.  Maybe they will learn that elections have consequences.

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Just now, Biff Tannen said:

I'm just glad the public lands stuff was taken out.  Some form of this was always going to pass.  My focus is just on keeping my job so I can keep my health insurance now.  Sucks for a bunch of people.  Maybe they will learn that elections have consequences.

Lol thats like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic

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4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'm just glad the public lands stuff was taken out.  Some form of this was always going to pass.  My focus is just on keeping my job so I can keep my health insurance now.  Sucks for a bunch of people.  Maybe they will learn that elections have consequences.

"I hope that stupid people will become smart."

Less chance of that than "I hope that Sela Ward finally comes to her senses and joins the wife and me for sexy time."



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