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So foreign movies are getting a 100% tariff apparently. Lots of questions.

Will that only apply to foreign film studios and the movies they produce, or will it also apply to American studios that film outside the U.S.? For instance, lots of American stuff is filmed in Canada (our trade enemy). What percentage of the film needs to be filmed domestically to avoid a tariff?

What about TV series?

What about streaming platforms? Assume for a second that TV series are included, and then take a series like Carême (a French series) on Apple+, how does that get tariffed? Perhaps they are exempt due to purchasing the series ahead of the tariff. Are there royalties or something similar involved? Does that suddenly incur a 100% tariff?

Maybe it’s all just a bunch of bullshit that never gets paid.

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It's all bullshit. Saying anything without regard for the truth, or the impact uttering the words will have, or even if the thing is possible in this reality. It's the unfiltered mind of a stupid child... not just a stupid child, the stupidest child you've ever met.

If nothing happens, it's forgotten and never brought up again. If something good happens, he takes credit (even if there is zero connection). If something bad happens, it's Joe Biden's fault.

Good thing the adults are back.

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45 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Given that films aren't really shipped though ordinary trade channels I'm not sure how you apply or collect a tariff. 

You can but because of tradition and deferrement it is not done, services due to treaties never got tariffs based on a memorandum on the World Trade Organization (which is about to expire), one of the million plus reasons the US benefited from the status quo.

IP related service jobs, tech related service jobs, its how the US has such high salaries. We exported Disney movies and in the end got cheap manufactured goods (the only real head scratcher is that it also exported agriculture and this is the morons that voted republican and got fucked by proper tariffs)

Intellectual services jobs > manufacturing jobs > agricultural jobs (specially the way these morons vote)

We are really about to kill the golden goose.

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6 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

So foreign movies are getting a 100% tariff apparently. Lots of questions.

Will that only apply to foreign film studios and the movies they produce, or will it also apply to American studios that film outside the U.S.? For instance, lots of American stuff is filmed in Canada (our trade enemy). What percentage of the film needs to be filmed domestically to avoid a tariff?

What about TV series?

What about streaming platforms? Assume for a second that TV series are included, and then take a series like Carême (a French series) on Apple+, how does that get tariffed? Perhaps they are exempt due to purchasing the series ahead of the tariff. Are there royalties or something similar involved? Does that suddenly incur a 100% tariff?

Maybe it’s all just a bunch of bullshit that never gets paid.

It’s just bullshit to distract us from other nefarious, corrupt, destructive shit he’s doing. Just like taking over Greenland or making Canada the 51st state. 

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2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It’s just bullshit to distract us from other nefarious, corrupt, destructive shit he’s doing. Just like taking over Greenland or making Canada the 51st state. 

I'm thinking that is likely and around the internet when one drives past the Hollywood and Christmas doll outrage, there must be something else that's going to drop (besides supply chains and the market) soon that's much worse perhaps?

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14 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Apparently, they missed the part where he said it's a National Security issue, so I'm pretty sure he can do whatever he wants. At least in his mind.

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I'm assuming Mr. van Meer voted for this.  

 

https://www.ktvu.com/news/afina-showerheads-tariffs-test?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook

 

 

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An entrepreneur facing skyrocketing costs due to tariffs conducted an experiment to see whether customers would voluntarily pay more for a product made in America.

"The result was, unfortunately, disappointing," Ramon van Meer told Fox News Digital. "We sold zero ‘Made in the USA’ shower heads."

Van Meer, a self-described "serial entrepreneur," is the founder of Afina, which sells a shower head that filters chemicals and heavy metals out of tap water. The shower head, manufactured in China and Vietnam, currently sells for $129.

 

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But van Meer said as the cost of tariffs jumped to 170%, he wanted to test whether the company could successfully reshore manufacturing to the U.S.

He found a U.S.-based company that could produce the shower heads — but at nearly triple the cost. To maintain Afina's current profit margins, he listed the U.S. version side-by-side with the original with a brief explanation of the price difference, and gave customers the choice.

"I wanted to really test what [customers will] do if it comes down to it. How would they vote with their wallets?" he said, adding that he anticipated customers would gravitate toward the cheaper option, but not as dramatically as they did. "I was not expecting basically 100% and 0%."

 

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The landing page garnered nearly 26,000 visits over multiple days. Sometimes the U.S. version was the top, pre-selected option, and other times the Asian version was, van Meer said.

It didn't matter. The cheaper option was purchased 584 times compared to zero purchases of the "Made in USA" version.

Van Meer shared the results on X, in a post viewed 10 million times as of Wednesday.

"We want to bring back domestic manufacturing. But when consumers face the actual price tag — they didn’t," van Meer wrote.

President Donald Trump has championed tariffs as a tool to decrease America's trade deficit and return manufacturing jobs to the U.S. But van Meer said the country lacks the manufacturing infrastructure to produce enough goods to meet demand right away. 

"[In other countries] manufacturing plants can make thousands, in some cases tens of thousands, of units a day or a week," van Meer said. "They have been doing this for many years, and they have all the machineries, they have the workforce. Versus in the United States, I basically had to start from scratch."

He said he couldn't find a single domestic manufacturer with the capacity to fill all of Afina's monthly orders.

"Bringing back some manufacturing jobs is not a bad idea," he said. "The problem is, I don't think it's gonna happen overnight. It's gonna take a couple of years of a lot of investment, money and time, to actually build the manufacturing plants."

And that still won't allow America to manufacture 100% of its goods, van Meer said. He pitched a health-monitoring cat litter on season 15 of the show "Shark Tank" that he said could not legally be manufactured in the U.S. due to strict environmental regulations.

In the automotive sector, states like California are pushing for an all-electric future, but mining for battery minerals is an expensive venture in the U.S., often stalled by permitting processes and environmental regulations.

Afina's shower head filter similarly contains materials not made in the United States, van Meer said.

"There's a lot of products that, even if you wanted to bring it back, it's just not possible," he said.

Trump has paused or eased many of the tariffs announced on April 2, which he dubbed "Liberation Day." But negotiations with China have remained contentious, with the Trump administration announcing a minimum 145% tariff on Chinese imports. China responded by boosting its tariffs on U.S. goods to 125%.

Van Meer told Fox News Digital the Asian-made shower head price is still at its pre-tariff level because Afina has six months of surplus inventory. Once that's used up, he said the price will increase but will still be "significantly" cheaper than that of an American-manufactured shower head.

Whether Americans support tariffs or not, van Meer said he hopes they recognize that most businesses are operating on thin margins.

"Some of us cannot even pay the new tariff bills, let alone build our own manufacturing plants," he said.

 

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I'm assuming Mr. van Meer voted for this.  

 

https://www.ktvu.com/news/afina-showerheads-tariffs-test?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook

 

 

 

 

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The landing page garnered nearly 26,000 visits over multiple days. Sometimes the U.S. version was the top, pre-selected option, and other times the Asian version was, van Meer said.

It didn't matter. The cheaper option was purchased 584 times compared to zero purchases of the "Made in USA" version.

Van Meer shared the results on X, in a post viewed 10 million times as of Wednesday.

"We want to bring back domestic manufacturing. But when consumers face the actual price tag — they didn’t," van Meer wrote.

President Donald Trump has championed tariffs as a tool to decrease America's trade deficit and return manufacturing jobs to the U.S. But van Meer said the country lacks the manufacturing infrastructure to produce enough goods to meet demand right away. 

"[In other countries] manufacturing plants can make thousands, in some cases tens of thousands, of units a day or a week," van Meer said. "They have been doing this for many years, and they have all the machineries, they have the workforce. Versus in the United States, I basically had to start from scratch."

He said he couldn't find a single domestic manufacturer with the capacity to fill all of Afina's monthly orders.

"Bringing back some manufacturing jobs is not a bad idea," he said. "The problem is, I don't think it's gonna happen overnight. It's gonna take a couple of years of a lot of investment, money and time, to actually build the manufacturing plants."

And that still won't allow America to manufacture 100% of its goods, van Meer said. He pitched a health-monitoring cat litter on season 15 of the show "Shark Tank" that he said could not legally be manufactured in the U.S. due to strict environmental regulations.

In the automotive sector, states like California are pushing for an all-electric future, but mining for battery minerals is an expensive venture in the U.S., often stalled by permitting processes and environmental regulations.

Afina's shower head filter similarly contains materials not made in the United States, van Meer said.

"There's a lot of products that, even if you wanted to bring it back, it's just not possible," he said.

Trump has paused or eased many of the tariffs announced on April 2, which he dubbed "Liberation Day." But negotiations with China have remained contentious, with the Trump administration announcing a minimum 145% tariff on Chinese imports. China responded by boosting its tariffs on U.S. goods to 125%.

Van Meer told Fox News Digital the Asian-made shower head price is still at its pre-tariff level because Afina has six months of surplus inventory. Once that's used up, he said the price will increase but will still be "significantly" cheaper than that of an American-manufactured shower head.

Whether Americans support tariffs or not, van Meer said he hopes they recognize that most businesses are operating on thin margins.

"Some of us cannot even pay the new tariff bills, let alone build our own manufacturing plants," he said.

 

It is depressing how stupid so many people are. The fact that he thought the result might be anything different is astounding. 

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

"I wanted to really test what [customers will] do if it comes down to it. How would they vote with their wallets?" he said, adding that he anticipated customers would gravitate toward the cheaper option, but not as dramatically as they did. "I was not expecting basically 100% and 0

 

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Has Ramon met any actual Americans? 

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2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Woah. I don't know if I am THAT proud to be an American.

lol. I'm not. I'm not paying nearly twice for something just to avoid our psychopathic prez's whims

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It’s just bullshit to distract us from other nefarious, corrupt, destructive shit he’s doing. Just like taking over Greenland or making Canada the 51st state. 

He’s Gov LePetomaine in Blazing Saddles. They let him amuse himself with the shit that makes him happy — grifting, playing golf, bringing back Columbus Day, annexing Greenland/Canada/Panama, renaming the Gulf of Mexico and sundry other culture war bullshit — while the truly evil puppet masters do all kinds of nefarious shit.

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

He found a U.S.-based company that could produce the shower heads — but at nearly triple the cost.

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this country is full of really stupid people. 

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19 minutes ago, Blotto said:

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this country is full of really stupid people. 

How much ya'll wanna bet the "US Manufacture" just batch bought from the Asia manufacture and tripled the price.

 

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41 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

How much ya'll wanna bet the "US Manufacture" just batch bought from the Asia manufacture and tripled the price.

 

I'll take that bet for a billion dollars - or whatever you got

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34 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'll take that bet for a billion dollars - or whatever you got

OK you win.  Here, just print it at home and spend it wherever.

 

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Sounds like the toxicity of the "Made in the USA" brand is spreading from Canada to Europe now, too. 

Buy American? No Thanks, Europe Says, as Tariff Backlash Grows.
A shifting perception of the United States amid President Trump’s trade war is prompting Europeans to pivot decisively away from U.S. goods and services.

For motorcycle lovers in Sweden, Harley-Davidson is the hottest brand on the road. Jack Daniel’s whiskey beckons from the bar at British pubs. In France, Levi’s jeans are all about chic.

But in the tumult of President Trump’s trade war with Europe, many European consumers are starting to avoid U.S. products and services in what appears to be a decisive and potentially long-term shift away from buying American, according to a new assessment by the European Central Bank.

In April, Mr. Trump imposed a 10 percent blanket tariff on America’s trading partners, and threatened “reciprocal tariffs” on many of those, including the European Union. Companies like Tesla and McDonald’s are seeing customers in Europe put off by “Made in America.”

“The newly imposed U.S. trade tariffs on European products are causing European consumers to think twice about what’s in their shopping cart,” the European Central Bank wrote in a blog post about its research on consumer behavior. “Consumers are very willing to actively move away from U.S. products and services.”

Europeans had already begun testing grass-roots boycotts on American products, including Heinz ketchup and Lay’s potato chips, shortly after Mr. Trump took office. His threats to take over Greenland, part of Denmark, energized Danes to organize no-buy campaigns on Facebook. Tesla owners in Sweden slapped “shame” bumper stickers on their cars to distance themselves from Elon Musk, the Tesla chief executive, who is one of Mr. Trump’s top advisers.

But Europeans’ anguish over Mr. Trump’s treatment of America’s longtime allies has hardened as he has moved to rewire world trade with steep global tariffs, the central bank found.

Mr. Trump took particular aim at the European Union, which he called “very, very bad to us” for not buying more from the United States, and threatened the bloc with a 20 percent “reciprocal” tariff last month. Such talk bewildered many Europeans and rattled E.U. leaders, who retaliated with a 25 percent duty on many U.S. goods.

Both sides called a temporary truce after Mr. Trump abruptly reversed course and delayed tariffs until the summer. But the 10 percent base-line tariff is still in place, and a trans-Atlantic trade war could easily flare again.

And even if a trade deal is reached, Europe’s newfound wariness of its longtime ally will not easily be unwound. The European Central Bank’s study found that even if a mere 5 percent tax was placed on American products sold in Europe, Europeans would be inclined to shun them.

What is new, the central bank said, is a “preference” among European consumers “to move away from U.S. products and brands altogether,” no matter what the cost. That was the case even for households that could bear the brunt of higher prices.

“Even though they could afford more expensive U.S. products and services, they consciously choose alternatives,” the bank said. “This suggests that consumers’ reactions may not just be a temporary response to tariff increases, but instead signal a possible long-term structural shift in consumer preferences away from U.S. products and brands.”

In Germany and Italy, developers have created apps that scan grocery and clothing items for people who want to make sure they are not buying American. The top app, BrandSnap, even suggests European alternatives.

On a French-run “Boycott USA!” Facebook channel with 31,000 members, people boast about buying Adidas, a German brand, over Nike and New Balance, and post stories about avoiding travel to the United States.

In a Danish Facebook group with 95,000 members, people try to help one another figure out if products like Gillette Mach 3 razor blades or Schweppes soda are from the United States. One run from Sweden promotes alternatives to Airbnb and is calling for a European boycott on Meta platforms for a week in May.

Europeans have also posted online to say they have begun canceling subscriptions to U.S. streaming giants, including Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime Video.

Some consumers who have boycotted Amazon have gone online to lament that delivery from alternate e-commerce platforms in their countries is slower or less reliable, but say they are staying the course.

Millions of people still buy American goods and services worldwide, but U.S. companies and investors are keeping a close eye on international markets for signs of anti-American sentiment related to Mr. Trump’s policies.

In Europe, Tesla sales continued a sharp decline in April, data showed, including an 81 percent plunge in Sweden from a year earlier, as protests against Mr. Musk’s political views held steady.

And McDonald’s said it was observing growing negative attitudes abroad toward U.S. brands, especially in Northern Europe and Canada.

International consumers are “going to be cutting back their purchase of American brands, and we’ve seen an uptick in anti-American sentiment,” the burger chain’s chief executive, Chris Kempczinski, said in a call with analysts last week.

The McDonald’s brand does not seem to have been damaged yet — same-store sales in Canada and Europe were down only 1 percent in the first quarter from a year earlier. But there is an “eight- to a 10-point increase in anti-American sentiment,” he said.

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