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8 minutes ago, CleverNickname said:

All of TMs old camp culture articles are free too. I think it was the 1975 article that quoted a freshman woman at UT saying "I wint get into this sorority, I went to the wrong summer camp." that really clicked the camp to greek class/wealth connection for me. That one sentence explained it all. 

Nothing has changed. The day many of these girls are born you call and put them on the list for summer camp and if you want them to go to Texas you put them on the list for Hardin House. Been this way for a long long time. 

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13 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

Nothing has changed. The day many of these girls are born you call and put them on the list for summer camp and if you want them to go to Texas you put them on the list for Hardin House. Been this way for a long long time. 

I haven’t heard of any of this prior to now.  I wonder if all the transplants know about this, or if it just adds to the deepening of a certain in-group. 
 

my family were transplants in 1980. 

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On 7/11/2025 at 7:01 AM, LCHorn said:

It’s $7200 for the 4 week season at La Junta, and that’s before the trunk, getting there, $150 at the camp store, paying for photos, etc.  From what I’ve seen, Mystic and Waldemar are a little more.  
 

So about $15k for two kids-that’s a month traveling abroad on a family vacation to pretty much anywhere else in the world.  

Damn, nice racket

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Here are some things I’ve learned in the last week:

- my daughter’s friend, and I’m close with her parents, evacuated to Rec Center 2nd floor.  Once apparently safe, a counselor told the girls to say their last prayers.  This caused girls to throw up and pee themselves.

- our good friends’ daughter was saved by eastland and his pickup just before he took his last fateful run.  Mom is super thankful and had a direct relationship with Dick including directly texting him.  Dad is thankful but pissed.  Seems similar to dynamic I’ve seen with a lot of couples.

- Waldemar evacuated Happy Haven 1 and 2, the only buildings with campers anywhere close to Guadalupe, right after the first warning at about 1:25.  Jeanne Stacy is the camp director there and personally got the girls, along with help from seasonal Mexican hires that apparently were awesome for them.  Happy Havens got only 3 feet of water. Rest of Waldemar unharmed. Waldemar’s seasonal help grabbed all kayaks from riverbank.  Stacy married into Eastland family, y’all need to look into her and why she left Mystic.  I’ve heard stories why, and my experience with her has been nothing but great.

- the house we were staying at 5 days before July 4th was about 10 houses away from the house in the Texas Monthly story.  It got 4 feet of water.  The owner had several homes behind it and told me he gave those up to first responders.

A lot more rumors about lawsuits and anecdotes that I can’t verify and won’t post about.

 

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38 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I haven’t heard of any of this prior to now.  I wonder if all the transplants know about this, or if it just adds to the deepening of a certain in-group. 
 

my family were transplants in 1980. 

Honestly at this point I think the legacy pool has grown so wide that even some girls whose mothers attended arent getting in. As you might imagine these people completely lose their shit. 

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13 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

 

You, yourself, are rumor-mongering right here. Either have the guts to say what you want to say behind an anonymous account, or shut the fuck up.

No, I won’t. Lawsuits are a given. I wrote what I wrote because I have heard directly affected families openly talk about them and it’s surprising. I won’t post until I see a filing. 

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Speculation from a seat close to the action -- I think that there will be a lawsuit that many but not all victim families will join, but those involved will have the discretion to settle for policy limits + the camp itself. Which then should be made into a memorial/park/swimming hole. 

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Then, shut the fuck up. What you may or may not have heard directly from the affected families becomes a rumor when you spread it second-hand on the internet to the rest of us.

And, as we should all have learned by now, internet rumors can take a life of their own and cause material damage in the real world.

Read this again: Stacy married into Eastland family, y’all need to look into her and why she left Mystic.  I’ve heard stories why...

"We" need to look into her and why she left. What do you expect a bunch of keyboard warriors, or even others who knew some of the families or kids, to do with this information?

I expect you to type longer responses. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Confirmation this guy is Rex.

No I’m not. You’re attacking for no reason. You’re hanging onto 2 pieces of my post that otherwise should’ve been viewed as informative. Those 2 specific comments were written with the intent of seeing if others are hearing the same things. For example, others may know the story about Stacy leaving Mystic. 

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1 hour ago, King George said:

Waldemar evacuated Happy Haven 1 and 2, the only buildings with campers anywhere close to Guadalupe, right after the first warning at about 1:25

This is how it was supposed to've been done.

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On the Stacy/Eastland thing, I did gather from the TM article that a) Mystic was kind of "abandoned" by the rest of the family to Dick and Tweety Eastland (meaning none showed interest in fully running it, but various family members have continued to be involved) and b) the Eastland branch then became rather proprietary about it.

So, it would not surprise me much to hear a Stacy couldn't get back involved heavily in the operation of the Camp.

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My wife has found out Aiden Heartfiled has been found.  All our local Beaumont folks are accounted for.  Thanks be to God.  Give those volunteers the strength to carry on.  Can't imagine.  

Indeed. I don't know Thad and Melanie very well, but they have been I'm my thoughts all week. When Judge built that river house he probably never imagined the disaster that would destroy it.
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We usually stay at Stablewood for camp pickup. House we stayed in for her hilltopper year a few weekends ago was across 39 and elevated, right after Guad converged. Last night we were there, my oldest stayed with her counselor and other camp friends in a house on the Guad side on south fork between CLJ and Hunt Store. We both would have been screwed, especially her.  I’ve got 4 more years of this. I’ll never not stay at Stablewood again. 

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Heard from a friend today who left a hotel near the river the night before. His buddy stayed behind because he still had a few nights paid for. 

So he calls the next night/ morning at 4 am saying water is half way up to the second floor where he was at. He also said people were trying to leave in their cars as the water rose.

All of them swept away before his very eyes as he watched from the balcony. 

His truck is gone but he made it out safe as the last one from the hotel. When he got off the bus parents swarmed him asking about their kids.

 

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25 minutes ago, SurlyGator said:

This mental image just rips my guts out.  Horrible.

Sorry. He was on the last bus after letting all the familes and couples go before him.

Hes already looking into counseling. Cant imagine the horror of such an experience. 

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No apology necessary.  As a parent, so many aspects of this tragedy have had that effect on my this past week.  Best wishes to your friend.  Counseling is absolutely a good idea.

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Stay on topic.  Some of these posts are a disgrace.  Even for you terrible shells of human assholes.  This place is the worst.  

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5 hours ago, Elvis said:

Stay on topic.  Some of these posts are a disgrace.  Even for you terrible shells of human assholes.  This place is the worst.  

The whereabouts of the FEMA director after a week has passed isn't on topic?

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6 hours ago, Elvis said:

Stay on topic.  Some of these posts are a disgrace.  Even for you terrible shells of human assholes.  This place is the worst.  

New Surly motto.

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Posted
20 hours ago, BlackCat said:

Nothing has changed. The day many of these girls are born you call and put them on the list for summer camp and if you want them to go to Texas you put them on the list for Hardin House. Been this way for a long long time. 

As someone who was definitely not part of that crowd at UT, it’s the first thing I did when I had daughters. 
My parents certainly didn’t know anything about all that. To me, summer camp was going to the Tom Nissalke Basketball Camp at SHSU

 

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Definitely. He sent me a PM.
 
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Seems like it is. Attending several funerals most likely means the Park Cities. I think there were six Mystic victims from the Park Cities — not sure another area had near as many.

I’m going to one of the funerals Wednesday. Would not shock me in the slightest if Rex is also there.
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59 minutes ago, C-Man said:


Seems like it is. Attending several funerals most likely means the Park Cities. I think there were six Mystic victims from the Park Cities — not sure another area had near as many.

I’m going to one of the funerals Wednesday. Would not shock me in the slightest if Rex is also there.

Not necessarily - I’m going to four services this week in Houston 😔

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1 hour ago, CTC2 said:

I went to search with a group on Friday. If you have ever been to Hunt, you won’t recognize it. Looks like it was clear cut. 
Standing near the river and looking at the debris line was daunting. So much water. Hard to really understand it without seeing. 
I thought it was strange that I encountered no dead animals other than fish. Maybe they have been removed but still strange. I mostly was searching the high water line. 
Can’t tell you the amount of Mystic t shirts and shorts that were on the ground in my am search area.  
As a father who sent two girls to camp in the area it was rough because I recognized what a lot of the things I came across were.  Hard to see. Heartbreaking. &nbsp
If you have been keeping up with the numbers you will know that the bodies found have been slow the past few days. I did not come across anything. No smells other than the stench of silt which is everywhere.  Its not just a little. It’s everywhere and deep. 
The main search tool seemed to be excavators digging up the silt on the banks and people lined up on the side of it looking underneath what was dug up and the watching as the bucket was sifted.  Other excavators are moving trees and brush piles while spotters look in the area beneath. This is going on all up and down the bank. 
There are lots of non profit organizations in Hunt running this machinery and either supervising volunteers or their own people doing the spotting.  Every person who told me what to do, handed me a water, food, or a cold towel was with a non profit.  No FEMA or any other official types that I saw. 
I wonder how long this will be going on and Abbotts claim that they aren’t leaving until all missing are accounted for seems unrealistic. 
I did come across some game wardens walking around the water line trying to detect decomposition odors. One issue with this is that you have to till up or poke the silt wi th a stick to get oxygen to potentially what might be underneath it in order to detect a smell.  
The scope of this flood is just massive. Being there made it feels enormous. Finding everyone who is missing just seems very difficult. 
I saw no National Guard. Nowhere. No military vehicles, no base camps, nothing. Not saying they aren’t there but I didn’t see them. In fact outside of the game wardens , I had the impression that it’s just locals and the non profits.  I’m assuming that’s not the case but I covered a lot of ground and that’s all I saw. 
Met people from all over the country. 
It is really bad down there. I’m just not sure what will happen over the long haul. 
 

Thanks for doing this and for the report. That picture of the buried F-150 makes one realize the reality of the situation and that very many will never get closure on their loved ones.

I am curious as to how long people will remain on site searching. I recall in Wimberley the Charba and McComb families ultimately engaged private firms to look for their 4 and 6-year olds when everyone else had ended search efforts. As we know 10 years later that, sadly, didn't produce any results. 

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I hope all searchers are made aware of the hidden dangers, the silt and dirt turned up by the river has lots of dangerous bacteria in it. Very bad news if it gets into an open wound. 5 survivors of the Joplin tornado were killed by bacterial infections they got from the river silt thrown around by the tornado. 

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3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I hope all searchers are made aware of the hidden dangers, the silt and dirt turned up by the river has lots of dangerous bacteria in it. Very bad news if it gets into an open wound. 5 survivors of the Joplin tornado were killed by bacterial infections they got from the river silt thrown around by the tornado. 

Spot on regarding the dangers, though it was a necrotizing fungal infection - not a bacterial one.

https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.121-a116

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13 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I hope all searchers are made aware of the hidden dangers, the silt and dirt turned up by the river has lots of dangerous bacteria in it. Very bad news if it gets into an open wound. 5 survivors of the Joplin tornado were killed by bacterial infections they got from the river silt thrown around by the tornado. 

In addition, there is barbed wire, nails, shards of metal everywhere. A ton of hazards and a lot of people disregarding. Volunteers were urged to go to Hunt VFD and get tetanus shots as well. 
My friend stepped in the wrong place and had a nail go completely through his boot. Luckily, it missed his foot. 
I threw my clothes away and put my boots in a bucket of soapy water and scrubbed them down.  
Plenty of people working down there not caring about the dangers and just doing what they can. 
 

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Hopefully, this precious dog will be ok. And they will find her family. Putting here for more eyeballs. At least she is being taken care of right now. ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

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3 hours ago, CTC2 said:

As someone who was definitely not part of that crowd at UT, it’s the first thing I did when I had daughters. 
My parents certainly didn’t know anything about all that. To me, summer camp was going to the Tom Nissalke Basketball Camp at SHSU

 

I don't get this "in group" stuff. I went to UT and I don't remember a line on the application form asking what summer camp I went to.  How would an admissions officer or whoever is reviewing & approving freshman applications even find out this kind of information?

 

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