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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So are we now free to talk about tariffs at the future funerals of various family members?

Shit, that probably woulda livened up the ceremony at my great grandma Gladys' funeral.  That was a real snoozer.  Poor old gal came down to Texas from Oklahoma in a covered wagon, was raised by a woman who married an outlaw on the run, and had three sons: two ranchers/oilpatch trash, and a neurosurgeon.  And they still managed to make her funeral boring.  

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Shit, that probably woulda lined up the ceremony at my great grandma Gladys' funeral.  That was a real snoozer.  Poor old gal came down to Texas from Oklahoma in a covered wagon, was raised by a woman who married an outlaw on the run, and had three sons: two ranchers/oilpatch trash, and a neurosurgeon.  And they still managed to make her funeral boring.  

I'm also going to talk about all of the people I hate.

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When you get to your late 40s/early 50s, you are entering prime territory where you're going to be speaking at funerals.

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm also going to talk about all of the people I hate.

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When you get to your late 40s/early 50s, you are entering prime territory where you're going to be speaking at funerals.

Not if you tell your family they are dipshits. 
 

You are welcome.

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All right, somebody needs to school me cause I haven’t been paying attention. Was there or was there not an exit wound?

If no exit wound, what in the head or neck area is going to stop a supersonic round from that distance? Are there any commercial subsonic loads for the 30.06?

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4 hours ago, mdmost said:

 

If “Thoughtful Conversations With Jimmy” doesn’t become a regular segment I will lose what little faith I have left in society 

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

So I really REALLY want people to realize that the CK """memorial""" yesterday was nothing more than a political rally. The President of the United States saying that he HATES Americans who don't like him. His top advisor was straight out of the mid-1930's germany with his rhetoric. Classic shit with "our enemies are DANGEROUS! But they're also NOTHING and CAN DO NOTHING!"

 

 

They weren't there for peace and reconciliation. They were there to assign enemies and coordinate their "army" against whoever he says "they" are

Well Miller is a Nazi

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You show that mean Jimmy Kimmel who's the boss. I'm sure your advertisers are thrilled you're putting some dumb bullshit in its place. I hope he torches them. Stick your apology and the donation up your ass. 

 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

All right, somebody needs to school me cause I haven’t been paying attention. Was there or was there not an exit wound?

 

All right, somebody needs to school me cause I haven’t been paying attention. Was there or was there not an exit wound?

If no exit wound, what in the head or neck area is going to stop a supersonic round from that distance? Are there any commercial subsonic loads for the 30.06?

Don’t you man of steel, amigo?

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44 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You show that mean Jimmy Kimmel who's the boss. I'm sure your advertisers are thrilled you're putting some dumb bullshit in its place. I hope he torches them. Stick your apology and the donation up your ass. 

 

Monologue has potential to be epic

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7 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Truth.

Not truth. What you quoted is a neat sounding, but the entire Bible was written no later than 300 years before Mo existed. The New Testament says nothing about hostility to non-Christians and in fact is opposite. Modern hostility toward Islam is geopolitical and terrorist driven, and has no place in Christianity. Note, I am not saying it does not exist in modern Christianity. I’m saying it shouldn’t have a place, and is not taught by any doctrine worth a shit. 

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16 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

I somewhat respect his willingness to talk to anyone, even though he never did so in good faith, but I don't respect his debate acumen at all. Most of it was against unprepared college students who only got a small amount of time to speak before he went back to churning through talking points. He mostly got completely dunked on in every 1 on 1 debate he did. clearly had very little real knowledge, and didn't care to learn.

Besides, debates are fucking stupid anyway. They are probably the worst possible way to try and arrive at any kind of truth. Their only value is in propagandizing, to widely differing degrees of effectiveness.

The one huge tip off on Charlie Kirk in his "debates" is that he never STFU and continued to talk over and interrupt his "opponent." 

You're right, I think, that debate does not arrive at truth, the winner is not the truthiest, but rather the better rhetorician. It does have value in exposing the "sides" or issues underlying a topic, some of which may be propaganda, which should be exposed in the debate but often isn't.

Anyway, Kirk's rhetorical style is a variant of Trump's:  keep repeating your side, ignore the other side mostly, flood the zone.

 

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12 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

 

All right, somebody needs to school me cause I haven’t been paying attention. Was there or was there not an exit wound?

If no exit wound, what in the head or neck area is going to stop a supersonic round from that distance? Are there any commercial subsonic loads for the 30.06?

According to the official story, Kirk got shot in the front of his neck with a .30-06 round from a Mauser rifle with a scope and that the bullet got lodged in his spine.  So no exit wound.  Take her word for what it is worth, but Candace Owens claims she has seen the footage from the camera that was right behind Kirk and that there was no exit wound.  There are video angles from the crowd from behind and to the side of Kirk and you can't see any exit wound in those either.  

The odds that a .30-06 round, regardless of the grain, hits a human neck from a shallow angle and doesn't come out somewhere are extremely rare.  Like comically rare.  That bullet moves at 2500 to 3000 feet per second.  In reality, the bullet would have either sped through his neck and blown a hole out the back or it would have expanded/tumbled once it made contact and basically decapitated him, turning that entire tent solid red.  While still also probably exiting his body somewhere.  Somehow, neither of those things happened.  The MAGA faithful are saying the surgeon told them Charlie had God-tier level bones that stopped the bullet.  Anyone with half a brain who doesn't believe in Jesus inspired vertebrae is having some legitimate doubts that Kirk got shot from the front with that caliber of bullet from the gun they found.  These rounds go through cinder blocks, metal plates, explode watermelons and ballistic test dummy heads, but this round somehow just made a hole and then stopped at Kirk's spine.  

For a bit of context, remember the goofy kid who took a shot at Trump in Butler, PA?  Thomas Crooks?  The Secret Service sniper who killed him shot him with a .30 cal bullet.  Crooks had FIVE gunshot wounds from that one bullet.  An entry wound, an exit wound, a re-entry wound, and two more corresponding partial re-exit wounds.  And Crooks was shot in the head, which last time I checked was made out of bone, unlike the human neck.

Specifically in regards to your question, yes, there are special subsonic .30-06 rounds.  It's still a very large bullet moving well over 1000 fps which would do a catastrophic amount of damage.  Plus, from the videos at the event, the shot is extremely loud.  It sounds supersonic.  Just moseying around YT I found this video of a guy shooting subsonic .30-06 rounds he loaded himself.  It sounds a lot more quiet than the shot that killed Kirk.

https://youtu.be/D_ohu1DfX-s?t=186

TL;DR?  There was no exit wound.  Yes, there are subsonic .30-06 rounds but they're not standard and it's unlikely Robinson used one.  Bullets do funny things sometimes so there doesn't absolutely have to be an exit wound.  However, it's extremely unlikely, and the claim from the TPUSA goon that the surgeon told him there was no exit wound because of Kirk's bones being denser than a neutron star is laughable.  Also, completely disregard this post because you're not supposed to question the official narrative in this thread.  It upsets the powers that be.  Kirk got shot in the neck and they got the bad guy.  End of story.  

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17 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

 For a bit of context, remember the goofy kid who took a shot at Trump in Butler, PA?  Thomas Crooks?  The Secret Service sniper who killed him shot him with a .30 cal bullet.  Crooks had FIVE gunshot wounds from that one bullet.  An entry wound, an exit wound, a re-entry wound, and two more corresponding partial re-exit wounds.  And Crooks was shot in the head, which last time I checked was made out of bone, unlike the human neck.

I don't know shit about fuck regarding ballistics, but how can one bullet create five separate wounds?

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20 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

According to the official story, Kirk got shot in the front of his neck with a .30-06 round from a Mauser rifle with a scope and that the bullet got lodged in his spine.  So no exit wound.  Take her word for what it is worth, but Candace Owens claims she has seen the footage from the camera that was right behind Kirk and that there was no exit wound.  There are video angles from the crowd from behind and to the side of Kirk and you can't see any exit wound in those either.  

The odds that a .30-06 round, regardless of the grain, hits a human neck from a shallow angle and doesn't come out somewhere are extremely rare.  Like comically rare.  That bullet moves at 2500 to 3000 feet per second.  In reality, the bullet would have either sped through his neck and blown a hole out the back or it would have expanded/tumbled once it made contact and basically decapitated him, turning that entire tent solid red.  While still also probably exiting his body somewhere.  Somehow, neither of those things happened.  The MAGA faithful are saying the surgeon told them Charlie had God-tier level bones that stopped the bullet.  Anyone with half a brain who doesn't believe in Jesus inspired vertebrae is having some legitimate doubts that Kirk got shot from the front with that caliber of bullet from the gun they found.  These rounds go through cinder blocks, metal plates, explode watermelons and ballistic test dummy heads, but this round somehow just made a hole and then stopped at Kirk's spine.  

For a bit of context, remember the goofy kid who took a shot at Trump in Butler, PA?  Thomas Crooks?  The Secret Service sniper who killed him shot him with a .30 cal bullet.  Crooks had FIVE gunshot wounds from that one bullet.  An entry wound, an exit wound, a re-entry wound, and two more corresponding partial re-exit wounds.  And Crooks was shot in the head, which last time I checked was made out of bone, unlike the human neck.

Specifically in regards to your question, yes, there are special subsonic .30-06 rounds.  It's still a very large bullet moving well over 1000 fps which would do a catastrophic amount of damage.  Plus, from the videos at the event, the shot is extremely loud.  It sounds supersonic.  Just moseying around YT I found this video of a guy shooting subsonic .30-06 rounds he loaded himself.  It sounds a lot more quiet than the shot that killed Kirk.

https://youtu.be/D_ohu1DfX-s?t=186

TL;DR?  There was no exit wound.  Yes, there are subsonic .30-06 rounds but they're not standard and it's unlikely Robinson used one.  Bullets do funny things sometimes so there doesn't absolutely have to be an exit wound.  However, it's extremely unlikely, and the claim from the TPUSA goon that the surgeon told him there was no exit wound because of Kirk's bones being denser than a neutron star is laughable.  Also, completely disregard this post because you're not supposed to question the official narrative in this thread.  It upsets the powers that be.  Kirk got shot in the neck and they got the bad guy.  End of story.  

I assume there was an autopsy?

I guess that's what would happen on a normal planet anyway...

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Are we sure that the bullet didn't hit something else first?  I know there was speculation about it hitting some body armor, but I have seen no credible evidence that he was wearing any, unless his armor had nipples on it.  Could the bullet have hit a table or mic or camera or something else and ricocheted into his neck? 

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9 minutes ago, Native Horn said:

I don't know shit about fuck regarding ballistics, but how can one bullet create five separate wounds?

Bullet big.  Bullet fast.  Bullet go through things like skull and not stop.  Bullet then go through other body parts and not stop.  

Unless it's Charlie Kirk's neck.  Then bullet too weak to do anything but stop because God said so.  

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30 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

The odds that a .30-06 round, regardless of the grain, hits a human neck from a shallow angle and doesn't come out somewhere are extremely rare.  Like comically rare. 

Are you taking into account that he had the strongest, most muscular neck ever seen; a neck capable of supporting that ginormous head all day every day?

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Just now, Beau Vine said:

Are you taking into account that he had the strongest, most muscular neck ever seen; a neck capable of supporting that ginormous head all day every day?

Honestly, that's the most suspicious part of this entire thing.  That the shooter somehow missed that Death Star sized dome and hit his neck instead.  

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According to the official story, Kirk got shot in the front of his neck with a .30-06 round from a Mauser rifle with a scope and that the bullet got lodged in his spine.  So no exit wound.  Take her word for what it is worth, but Candace Owens claims she has seen the footage from the camera that was right behind Kirk and that there was no exit wound.  There are video angles from the crowd from behind and to the side of Kirk and you can't see any exit wound in those either.  
The odds that a .30-06 round, regardless of the grain, hits a human neck from a shallow angle and doesn't come out somewhere are extremely rare.  Like comically rare.  That bullet moves at 2500 to 3000 feet per second.  In reality, the bullet would have either sped through his neck and blown a hole out the back or it would have expanded/tumbled once it made contact and basically decapitated him, turning that entire tent solid red.  While still also probably exiting his body somewhere.  Somehow, neither of those things happened.  The MAGA faithful are saying the surgeon told them Charlie had God-tier level bones that stopped the bullet.  Anyone with half a brain who doesn't believe in Jesus inspired vertebrae is having some legitimate doubts that Kirk got shot from the front with that caliber of bullet from the gun they found.  These rounds go through cinder blocks, metal plates, explode watermelons and ballistic test dummy heads, but this round somehow just made a hole and then stopped at Kirk's spine.  
For a bit of context, remember the goofy kid who took a shot at Trump in Butler, PA?  Thomas Crooks?  The Secret Service sniper who killed him shot him with a .30 cal bullet.  Crooks had FIVE gunshot wounds from that one bullet.  An entry wound, an exit wound, a re-entry wound, and two more corresponding partial re-exit wounds.  And Crooks was shot in the head, which last time I checked was made out of bone, unlike the human neck.
Specifically in regards to your question, yes, there are special subsonic .30-06 rounds.  It's still a very large bullet moving well over 1000 fps which would do a catastrophic amount of damage.  Plus, from the videos at the event, the shot is extremely loud.  It sounds supersonic.  Just moseying around YT I found this video of a guy shooting subsonic .30-06 rounds he loaded himself.  It sounds a lot more quiet than the shot that killed Kirk.

TL;DR?  There was no exit wound.  Yes, there are subsonic .30-06 rounds but they're not standard and it's unlikely Robinson used one.  Bullets do funny things sometimes so there doesn't absolutely have to be an exit wound.  However, it's extremely unlikely, and the claim from the TPUSA goon that the surgeon told him there was no exit wound because of Kirk's bones being denser than a neutron star is laughable.  Also, completely disregard this post because you're not supposed to question the official narrative in this thread.  It upsets the powers that be.  Kirk got shot in the neck and they got the bad guy.  End of story.  



If you asked me to bet all of my money that a 125 yard shot to the neck with a 30-06 would not look like it did in that video I would take the bet.

The energy at that point is probably is enough to go through bone on an elk, depending on the bone.

However, it is known that bullets can do weird things and an exit wound is not guaranteed. There are hundreds of stories where the bullet does not do what you thinks it’s going to do.

It also depends on the type of bullet used - but I would still expect the damage to be “different”.
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So they've had Tyler Robinson in custody for what, 10 days now? Still not cooperating? 

Here is the latest update from Kash Patel on Sunday via Twitter: 

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As the Director of the FBI, I am committed to ensuring the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s assassination is thorough and exhaustive, pursuing every lead to its conclusion.

The full weight of America’s law enforcement agencies are actively following the evidence that has emerged, but our efforts extend beyond initial findings. We are examining every facet of this assassination.

We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken, the possibility of accomplices, the text message confession and related conversations, Discord chats, the angle of the shot and bullet impact, how the weapon was transported, hand gestures observed as potential “signals” near Charlie at the time of his assassination, and visitors to the alleged shooter’s residence in the hours and days leading up to September 10, 2025.

Some details are known today, while others are still being pursued to ensure every possibility is considered. Our primary focus is to complete this investigation and deliver justice. To protect the integrity of the investigation and subsequent prosecution, we cannot release every piece of information we have to the public right now. We will ensure every question is addressed at the appropriate moment.

Regarding specific details, such as questions about the plane that allegedly turned off its transponder after departing from an airport near the assassination site, we can share updates when answers are confirmed. After interviews with the pilot and consultation with the FAA, we determined the transponder was not turned off. Incomplete flight data in rural areas caused the apparent gap.

The entire FBI mourns the loss of Charlie Kirk. We will not rest until justice is served, and our investigation into this assassination will continue until every question is answered.

 

What in the absolute fuck is this shit? You have the shooter in custody. I would assume they have access to his phone and computer. Friends and family are cooperating. Do they actually want to "solve" this case regarding motive? Doesn't seem like it. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

 

 


If you asked me to bet all of my money that a 125 yard shot to the neck with a 30-06 would not look like it did in that video I would take the bet.

The energy at that point is probably is enough to go through bone on an elk, depending on the bone.

However, it is known that bullets can do weird things and an exit wound is not guaranteed. There are hundreds of stories where the bullet does not do what you thinks it’s going to do.

It also depends on the type of bullet used - but I would still expect the damage to be “different”.

 

 

It's interesting that they haven't shared any ballistics of other evidence to bolster their public weeping and gnashing of teeth and sharpening of knives. You'd think they'd love to share that they've determined it WAS the rifle and it WAS the person they think it was.

 

Makes me wonder if the actual evidence is counter to their narrative that they've been shoving down everyone's throat

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46 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's interesting that they haven't shared any ballistics of other evidence to bolster their public weeping and gnashing of teeth and sharpening of knives. You'd think they'd love to share that they've determined it WAS the rifle and it WAS the person they think it was.

 

Makes me wonder if the actual evidence is counter to their narrative that they've been shoving down everyone's throat

I'm sure that would never happen.  

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1 hour ago, SpiralOut said:

Honestly, that's the most suspicious part of this entire thing.  That the shooter somehow missed that Death Star sized dome and hit his neck instead.  

He was shooting from elevation - probably aimed at the chest and shot high because he didn't take shooting downhill into account.

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