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4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I was talking about Lobo. I miss his jokes here on surly particularly him and his proof I am the Rainey ripper. 

 

3 minutes ago, NoName said:

Wolfgang = @YGIFS /Lobo

passed away in September of last year (how was that 12 months ago?!)

Aww shit. Didn't know he was also named Wolfgang. 

 

 

 

 

 

point still stands though... it IS a great new single and I can't fuckin wait for album #3

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Just now, Willfully Horn said:

I read the same post but knew I wasn’t part of y’all. Why did you?

I mean probably because he quoted my post?

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6 minutes ago, NoName said:

about that...

FBI forced out the head of the Salt Lake City field office like 6 weeks ago. evidently ~33% of the 50 something SAC's have been changed/fired/forced to retire in the last 6 months. 

really interesting article on Syed from March

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Mehtab Syed has an impressive resume that includes working for the FBI in some of the nation's biggest cities and the department's most important divisions.

That's not bad for a woman who was born in Pakistan, moved to the United States when she was 17 and was working as a financial analyst for a restaurant chain.

"Never in a million years did I ever plan to be an FBI agent," she told KSL.com this week.

In February, Syed was named as the new head of the FBI's Salt Lake City field office, which also includes Idaho and Montana.

Syed's unexpected career change and rapid rise within the FBI began in 2001 after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York City.

"I was perfectly fine with my degree in finance and doing financial work. But after 9/11, I just wanted to do something different and wanted to be part of a solution instead of part of a problem," she said.

Syed, who is Muslim, was living in New York at the time of the attack.

"You feel shame first because you're Muslim, (and) you see someone doing something so bad, and it kind of reflects who you are. But then I got angry, and I was like, 'Uh-uh, that's not happening.'"

She decided to start applying for jobs at FBI field agencies.

"I just wanted to do something," Syed recalled.

But after initially not getting any return calls, Syed actually forgot about her application to the FBI. It wasn't until she came home one day and her son told her the FBI had called. Syed called the number they had left.

"They said, 'Hello, FBI.' I hung up," she recalled, with a laugh.

Syed initially didn't believe the FBI had actually called her about her application. But after talking to her son again, she called them back a second time and before she knew it, she was entering the FBI Academy at age 35.

She began working as an agent in the New York field office in 2005 and worked on counterterrorism investigations, was a member of the crisis negotiation team and the rapid deployment team.

In 2008, Syed was sent to Islamabad, Pakistan, as acting assistant legal attaché.

"She was responsible for conducting extensive coordination between law enforcement, intelligence, and security services of multiple governments," according to her bio. In 2015, she was assigned to a similar position in Amman, Jordan, as assistant legal attaché.

After Pakistan, she returned to New York, where she was the supervisor of a counterterrorism task force that investigated such groups as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, she said. Then, in 2012, she was asked by her supervisors to work at the FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C.

"I really didn't want to. But I was being pushed and was told that I need to go and do something different," she said.

Syed continued her counterterrorism work in Washington, but on a more global basis.

By 2020, she was working in the Newark, New Jersey, field office as the assistant special agent-in-charge of cyber and counterintelligence. In 2022, she was promoted to section chief of the China Operations II Branch of the Counterintelligence Division at the FBI's headquarters in Washington. By 2023, she was moved to the Los Angeles field office to once again oversee cyber and counterintelligence.

Syed also spent some time in Utah for "survival training" in 2013, she said. And after working for years in some of the nation's biggest cities, she recently requested to return to the Beehive State to fill the job as the special agent-in-charge at the Salt Lake office.

"I like change. I like (a) challenge. I'd never been to Montana before. I'd never been to Idaho, so I came here. And I'm so glad that I did because I'm really enjoying my time here," she said.

She describes her job now as making phone calls to headquarters to make sure her agents in Utah, Idaho and Montana get the resources they need. But she admits that the job in Utah is much different than working in New York or Los Angeles.

"Until I came to Utah, I had no idea how different the Utah territory is than being in New York, LA (and) Newark, because we cover here three different states," she said. "So, just the time to go from one resident agency to another takes hours and hours. And don't get me wrong, I'm used to driving for hours. Only 30 miles can take two hours in New York. But it's a different kind of traveling. I have a whole new appreciation for my agents here in Utah and Montana and Idaho. It's different challenges here.

"I think what we need here is more resources, more agents, more professional staff, more intel analysts," she continued. "My goal is to bring more resources back to Utah … and Billings and Idaho. We need more agents here."

Rather than counterterrorism, she said some of the main priorities in Utah are going after gangs, cartels and drug traffickers and protecting citizens, while also lending technical support and intel to other federal and local agencies to assist with their investigations.

"Whatever the priority is do, that's what we do," she said.

 

 

 

Yeah, I heard about this, this morning. Just idiotic and dumb. Reducing trust with dumb statements and reducing quality by making replacements like this.

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3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Who is "yall" dipshit.  My only posts on this thread have been bitching at fucking morons like you and Frank that constantly derail because you can't go a minute in your life without getting into political pissing matches.   Constant fucking beating.  I'll never understand why all you fucking Cloak Roomers have the desire to have 2 threads up constantly and bring all your bullshit into both forums.  

It's pretty impressive to be so committed to being uninformed you get mad about people talking about the bare facts of a situation. I hope you manage to survive in that hard, factual world.

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Given how little notice there was for this event, I’m gonna assume that was the shooter’s very first time on that roof and he went up there having decided less than a week ago to attempt this. He could’ve gotten up there and not even had a shot depending on the height of the tent. Wild. 

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2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's pretty impressive to be so committed to being uninformed you get mad about people talking about the bare facts of a situation. I hope you manage to survive in that hard, factual world.

LOL.  If your posts were limited to bare facts your post count would be about 1000 instead of 36K.   I'll stop mucking up the thread but appreciate those posting articles, etc. 

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2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Given how little notice there was for this event, I’m gonna assume that was the shooter’s very first time on that roof and he went up there having decided less than a week ago to attempt this. He could’ve gotten up there and not even had a shot depending on the height of the tent. Wild. 

You were sure it was a pro, correct?

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Given how little notice there was for this event, I’m gonna assume that was the shooter’s very first time on that roof and he went up there having decided less than a week ago to attempt this. He could’ve gotten up there and not even had a shot depending on the height of the tent. Wild. 

There were allegedly witnesses who reported a suspicious man on the roof in the past couple weeks. Allegedly.

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8 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

 

I mean, these two posts are saying the same thing. 

No matter what your preconceived bias is, the Internet will find a way to amplify it and make your belief in it more extreme. 

This is scientifically proven, at this point. 

The Internet is slowly turning us all into people eager to mass murder each other over things that two decades ago we'd have been merely annoyed at, and then changed the subject.

All true and very disturbing and sad. 😢 

we should try to look at the bright side of things but we don’t. 

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You were sure it was a pro, correct?

Yep. And the social media world is FULL of right wingers spouting how this was obviously a pro hit with a vast conspiracy involving Dems at the highest levels…while meanwhile, anyone who has ever made a 150+ yard shot with a 30/06 (a class that surely includes dozens of posters on here) was thinking “wait, this means I’m a professional assassin?”
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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:


Yep. And the social media world is FULL of right wingers spouting how this was obviously a pro hit with a vast conspiracy involving Dems at the highest levels…while meanwhile, anyone who has ever made a 150+ yard shot with a 30/06 (a class that surely includes dozens of posters on here) was thinking “wait, this means I’m a professional assassin?”

For real lol I can't even count the number of deer I've killed from a 200-ish yard distance. A fair number of those were with a measly little .243

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:


Yep. And the social media world is FULL of right wingers spouting how this was obviously a pro hit with a vast conspiracy involving Dems at the highest levels…while meanwhile, anyone who has ever made a 150+ yard shot with a 30/06 (a class that surely includes dozens of posters on here) was thinking “wait, this means I’m a professional assassin?”

Not to mention he obviously missed his mark, but in a lethal spot. 

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Regarding jurisdiction, 18 USC 249 is the federal hate crime statute that might have some legs.

Basically, it covers offenses involving actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender, identity, or disability. 

If the killing involves a firearm that has “traveled in interstate commerce” (low bar, that) it seems you’d have jurisdiction. 

It might be a stretch, but since Charlie Kirk was a Christian nationalist, and his political beliefs that the alleged shooter disliked so much can be argued to have come from Charlie’s core religious beliefs, there is a decent chance that a sympathetic federal appellate court might agree. 

And I do think that the Rocket Raccoon Doctrine applies.

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5 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Given how little notice there was for this event, I’m gonna assume that was the shooter’s very first time on that roof and he went up there having decided less than a week ago to attempt this. He could’ve gotten up there and not even had a shot depending on the height of the tent. Wild. 

I'll play along.....

Robinson was highly intelligent given his academic scholarship and ACT scores.  Assuming there was some sort of layout posted online ahead of time of where the stage/tent area was going to be he could have easily found a nearby spot on Google Maps that would have been within the line of sight.   Beyond Google Maps, I'm sure there are plenty of other pictures out there of the scene that you could use to plan something, and pics of previous events with Kirk to get an idea of what the canopy would look like.  

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

while meanwhile, anyone who has ever sighted in their 30/06 (a class that surely includes dozens of posters on here) was thinking “wait, this means I’m a professional assassin?”

Agree, but edited. 

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Yep. And the social media world is FULL of right wingers spouting how this was obviously a pro hit with a vast conspiracy involving Dems at the highest levels…while meanwhile, anyone who has ever made a 150+ yard shot with a 30/06 (a class that surely includes dozens of posters on here) was thinking “wait, this means I’m a professional assassin?”

It’s funny how curated everyone’s algorithm is. I’m not seeing any of that. I’m mostly seeing dumbasses getting themselves fired for gloating. 

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8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Not to mention he obviously missed his mark, but in a lethal spot. 

This too.  There's a near 0% chance the shooter was aiming for a neck shot.  It was very likely a head shot, perhaps a chest shot, and he missed....but it missed into a lethal spot.  Which, again, most experienced deer hunters have done at one point or another -- "that wasn't exactly where I was aiming....but deer down, so all good."

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he took the time to engrave the casings and decided to write this shit. Not like we should be expecting much here. But to take the time to do that and engrave mostly gibberish basically. 


“Bullet casings discovered by investigators had several inscriptions engraved on them, Cox said. The casing that had been fired read: 'notices bulges OWO what’s this?'

Cox said there were three unfired casings:

One read, 'hey fascist! catch!' with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

Another one read: 'oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao,' Cox said.

The third fired casing read: 'if you read this you are gay lmao.'”

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Don’t have time to catch up with all these post anyone have a tldr of what is known about this asshole?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/charlie-kirk-killing-live-2025-09-12/

literally what you are asking for i think is this - what i found when i was looking:

 

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Here is what we know about the suspect in custody following that briefing from officials:

  • Officials believe he was working alone at this point in the investigation
  • He is from Utah and lived with his family in Washington County in the same state
  • They did not give his age, but sources familiar with the investigation earlier told Reuters he was 22
  • He was not a student at Utah Valley University (UVU), where the shooting took place
  • Robinson arrived on campus in a gray Dodge Challenger at 8.29 a.m. (10.29 ET and 1429 GMT)
  • A member of Robinson's family reached out to a family friend, who contacted the sheriff's office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident
  • Robinson had become more political in recent years, according to a family member interviewed by investigators
  • Investigators also interviewed a roommate who showed them several messages from Robinson on the platform Discord
  • The contents of those messages included stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point and leaving the rifle in a bush
  • A message also referred to the rifle wrapped in a towel
  • The messages also referred to engraving bullets and mentioned a scope, and the rifle being unique
  • Robinson is being held at Utah County Jail
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3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Don’t have time to catch up with all these post anyone have a tldr of what is known about this asshole?

he's a right wing, antifa, trans, nazi who donated to Trump and scrawled cryptic novels on the shell casings.   He shoved the rifle in his pants to get on the roof and is obviously a HIGHLY TRAINED ASSASIN who has retrieved the Grail already.

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

he took the time to engrave the casings and decided to write this shit. Not like we should be expecting much here. But to take the time to do that and engrave mostly gibberish basically. 


“Bullet casings discovered by investigators had several inscriptions engraved on them, Cox said. The casing that had been fired read: 'notices bulges OWO what’s this?'

Cox said there were three unfired casings:

One read, 'hey fascist! catch!' with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols.

Another one read: 'oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao,' Cox said.

The third fired casing read: 'if you read this you are gay lmao.'”

So we have in order on the bullet casing: a furry meme, a helldiver's 2 meme, a WWII Italian resistance anti fascist song, and a common troll comment on message boards. What a fucking weird situation 

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40 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

 

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everyone on surly SEEMS to be getting laid

They are not

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Or are these dudes just so creepy or unkept or so stuck in their fucking basements that they turn off anyone that might be willing to fuck them? 

Yes they are. Still referencing the surly posters. Especially those with dozens of replies here

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Don’t have time to catch up with all these post anyone have a tldr of what is known about this asshole?

He got shot by some guy in Utah.

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

So we have in order on the bullet casing: a furry meme, a helldiver's 2 meme, a WWII Italian resistance anti fascist song, and a common troll comment on message boards. What a fucking weird situation 

Hey, maybe this will teach the world to not assume next time that the perpetrator is the literal personification of your political enemy ...

 

lol jk

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31 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Given how little notice there was for this event, I’m gonna assume that was the shooter’s very first time on that roof and he went up there having decided less than a week ago to attempt this. He could’ve gotten up there and not even had a shot depending on the height of the tent. Wild. 

Welll that settles it...Soon we will get verification from LE that he camped out on the roof for at least 2 nights. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Hey, maybe this will teach the world to not assume next time that the perpetrator is the literal personification of your political enemy ...

lol jk

Never let a good crisis go to waste. It not as impactful if full State honors are given to a guy gunned down by a message board troll

Posted
1 hour ago, mdmost said:

You guys are going to make immamac angry. 

IDK I think this is healthy discourse that hasn't gotten political - there's gripes that people have, but nothing has devolved into politics really, just part of what happened and who is involved and why.

47 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Who is "yall" dipshit.  My only posts on this thread have been bitching at fucking morons like you and Frank that constantly derail because you can't go a minute in your life without getting into political pissing matches.   Constant fucking beating.  I'll never understand why all you fucking Cloak Roomers have the desire to have 2 threads up constantly and bring all your bullshit into both forums.  

It's a beating having people shot for poltically motivated reasons, that doesn't make it not news or discussion worthy. The other thread is much much different and there is a clear divergence in topic and conversation between the two

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Just now, Mole said:

The guy who shot up that Catholic school in Minneapolis (I think, I lose track of these shootings) filmed himself shortly before. He had all sorts of things written on his weapons and it was all over the map politically. Mostly, he just wanted to kill kids.
 

I wouldn’t expect a coherent worldview from too many shooters, especially since they tend to be young. This stupid game where whenever something like this happens, we hope or try to push that the person is on the other side of us is pure madness. No one actually wins points when people are murdered. It’s all part of one big stupid, destructive machine.

Well said. The scoreboard anticipation has got to be one of the saddest things about our modern society.

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Well said. The scoreboard anticipation has got to be one of the saddest things about our modern society.

People want it to be about left vs right, the real scoreboard:

Chaos - a lot

Civility - 0

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4 minutes ago, Mole said:

The guy who shot up that Catholic school in Minneapolis (I think, I lose track of these shootings) filmed himself shortly before. He had all sorts of things written on his weapons and it was all over the map politically. Mostly, he just wanted to kill kids.
 

I wouldn’t expect a coherent worldview from too many shooters, especially since they tend to be young. This stupid game where whenever something like this happens, we hope or try to push that the person is on the other side of us is pure madness. No one actually wins points when people are murdered. It’s all part of one big stupid, destructive machine.

agreed, they don't belong to a side, they belong to nobody which makes them so easily manipulated and radicalized 

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15 minutes ago, Captainant said:

So we have in order on the bullet casing: a furry meme, a helldiver's 2 meme, a WWII Italian resistance anti fascist song, and a common troll comment on message boards. What a fucking weird situation 

We don't really know, but an inference or deduction you could have as a first working profile hypothesis:

Guy looks like a dork, pics of his gaming computer, probably deeply/chronically online. Radicalized one way or another online and into the weird part of twitter and sites that are front runners on the weird memes. Kid is decently smart (academic award for a bottom half school) but only manages one semester? Screams of undiagnosed/diagnosed mental illness. Kid doesn't look or act like his (likely) MAGA dad, usually those kids raised in that conservative environment either conform to it or rebel against it pretty hard. 

Seems pretty tragic all the way around but I agree with troph that I feel really bad for that kids parents.

Posted
1 hour ago, wong said:

I agree. This website is a fucking joke. Hate filled, vile, shitty people that have brainwashed themselves into thinking they have the moral high ground are the norm here.

Yes, I'm aware that I'm welcome to go start my own site.

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Just now, texasdago said:

What does that mean??

Anti trans accusation maybe?  That Kirk notices bulges in transwomen clothing and doesn't treat them as women but as biological men?  I don't know?

Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

A very chronically online meme

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? is a copypasta parodying both furries and online roleplay subcultures, which is typically used online as a method of trolling. The meme originated from these communities around early 2013 and spread online over the following years.

 

Man.  We were all better off when the main internet meme was that stupid dancing baby.

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