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1 minute ago, Scheiss Meister said:

They're insecure.  They think that they are special flowers and everyone should love them like mommy does, then the world slaps them.  Secure men don't expect to rule their wives.  Secure men don't fear people who look other than they do succeeding.  Secure men take responsibility for their own lives and the world around them.  These kids' insecurity drives their hate.  Just like it drives their fathers' hate.

And they likely have shit parents.

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9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

It’s obviously a confidence of things, but I think they’re also lonely. Most human beings need a community of their people, particularly when they’re young. If they’ve struggled to find one, they’ll do almost anything to stick with one that will accept them. We all know this dynamic. When you find bad ones, even if they’re bad, adolescent men* will do almost anything to make sure they aren’t rejected down that one as well. 

*and/or grown ass men whose emotional growth stopped at adolescence...

 

7 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I don't normally carry, although I do own a few guns. If I were carrying and some guy walks up to me or mine waving a machete, that dude would be deader than Elvis. 

 

Who carries on the way to vote?  It's agin the law, doncha know?

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What everyone says especially especially the growing online communities. Bury yourself in videos, podcasts, or message board (e.g., TexAgs politics) and you think anyone even considering a lib idea, is a soft beta. 

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12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Little shit went from screwing around (before the crime) with his friends yesterday afternoon to a court appearance this morning where his bond was set at 55K. FAFO

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Pretty cheap for an education.

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3 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Probably a topic for another thread, but what is making young white males embrace Maga and racism??

Some of my kids friends are racist little shits.

really? you don't know what causes that? have you ever talked their parents?

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2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

What everyone says especially especially the growing online communities. Bury yourself in videos, podcasts, or message board (e.g., TexAgs politics) and you think anyone even considering a lib idea, is a soft beta. 

Apparently gaming is huge too in that regard.

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5 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Who didn't have their parents' worldview as a teenager? 

Bingo.  

For years, when I went over to a friend's house, as soon as I walked in the front door I would automatically look for a fish bowl to put my car keys in.

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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

It makes them feel special without them needing to do anything to justify that feeling. 

4 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

It’s obviously a confidence of things, but I think they’re also lonely. Most human beings need a community of their people, particularly when they’re young. If they’ve struggled to find one, they’ll do almost anything to stick with one that will accept them. We all know this dynamic. When you find bad ones, even if they’re bad, adolescent men will do almost anything to make sure they aren’t rejected down that one as well. 

It's part of the reason why Q/Qanon was so popular - it gave these people some kind of purpose in their shitty lives, it explained why things are the way they are (i.e. "hey, it's not your fault that you fucked around and found out, it's the immigrant/brown person/woman's fault!").  For some of them, it makes them feel like they are a part of something much bigger than themselves (like they are living in a movie).

These kids are the ones who most need a participation trophy, and they are getting it from MAGA/Q/Trump/etc.

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2 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

The sisters in prison are going to really really enjoy him.

The braces might keep a thousand dicks out of his mouth but his ass not safe. 

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1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

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7 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

My wife runs a company, has two bachelors degrees in Business (finance and business management) from A&M.

She consumes 15-20 supplements every day and just put a ‘grounded’ mattress pad on our bed to help us sleep better.

Critical thinking is not rewarded in our economy or system of government.

 
$ and power is gained by ignoring the rules and creating your own.

You nerds get left holding your dicks when you talk about ‘rule of law’ or ‘safety’ or ‘based in fact’.

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7 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I don't normally carry, although I do own a few guns. If I were carrying and some guy walks up to me or mine waving a machete, that dude would be deader than Elvis. 

 

Uhhhh

 

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Bingo.  

For years, when I went over to a friend's house, as soon as I walked in the front door I would automatically look for a fish bowl to put my car keys in.

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4 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

There is nothing in her beliefs that I can see that hurts other people.  She may be insane, but I am perfectly fine with that, as it doesn't affect me in the slightest that she believes in "Reptilian forms", as far as I can tell.  That's a MASSIVE difference between her and the magats.  What they believe in actually hurts other people.  That's pretty much what I give a shit about in our entire existence.  Believe what you want, but the SECOND it starts hurting people, fuck right off and stop.  This isn't hard.

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5 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

That Dog Comic video is just one of millions of examples of our public education and news media systems -- however flawed -- being utterly overwhelmed by the mass idiocy produced by decades of TV, social media, creationism, Hollywood sci-fi ... and virtually no real science or astronomy. 

Just had lunch today with 35 y/o female long-time friend (no pics) with college degree from solid university (yet only had to take one science class)  ... successful art/design consulting business ... dang good looking ... and hates Trump.

Yet, she now believes her crazy old uncle in New Mexico who supposedly "worked at Los Alamos" ... who produces videos that claim that ETs have sent "biological drones" to Earth and some crashed at Roswell and elsewhere. These drones are now arriving in "Reptilian forms." She's also wondering if the moon is a giant surveillance satellite operated by advanced ETs. 

I'm not joking!!!  

i'm a life-long single never married dude. Thus, I traffic in crowds that often have lots of singles (artsy-fartsy art, design, fashionista world). I have heard the craziest crap, and much of it from liberal chicks and dudes... most of whom I presume vote D... but can't be certain.

Let me tell ya... It's nuts galore out here. 

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15 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Probably a topic for another thread, but what is making young white males embrace Maga and racism??

Some of my kids friends are racist little shits.

Asked and answered. 

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12 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Goddamn I hate these accounts sometimes. 

Biden made it very clear he didn't want Trump supporters to think he was calling them garbage, but all these Dem dipshits willingly attribute it to him anyways because they know it revs up their engagement. 

 

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Churches hosting Turning Point get-out-the-vote events likely violate tax law, experts say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turning-point-action-church-voting-pro-trump-tax-law-rcna178053

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A right-wing activist group’s reliance on evangelical churches for Republican get-out-the-vote efforts could land the congregations in hot water with the IRS, legal experts say.

Turning Point Action, founded by conservative provocateur Charlie Kirk, has held GOP vote-chasing events with at least 22 churches in six swing states since March, according to research conducted by the progressive watchdog group Documented and verified by NBC News. It is part of Turning Point’s push to contact people likely to support former President Donald Trump to encourage them to vote.

“What they’re doing almost definitely violates the Johnson Amendment,” said Sam Brunson, a law professor at Loyola University in Chicago, referring to the 1954 law that bars churches and other nonprofit groups from directly supporting political candidates.

Former President Donald Trump at a Turning Point Action rally in Las Vegas on Oct. 24.Patrick T. Fallon / AFP - Getty Images

There’s a long history of churches — including progressive and historically Black congregations — getting involved in elections, by registering voters, canvassing neighborhoods and providing transportation to polling sites. Those efforts are legal as long as they don’t explicitly target or exclude voters based on party affiliation. Many churches cross the line every year, by either hosting candidates or making endorsements from the pulpit, while rarely drawing sanctions from the IRS.

But what Turning Point is doing — relying on congregations to do explicitly partisan campaign work — “is at a different level than anything I’ve seen before,” said Philip Hackney, a University of Pittsburgh law professor and former IRS official. He and four other nonpartisan legal experts told NBC News that such activities could jeopardize the churches’ tax-exempt status.

Hackney noted Turning Point’s close association with Trump and the Republican National Committee. In a novel strategy made possible by new leniencies in campaign finance rules allowing campaigns to coordinate with super PACs and other groups, the Trump campaign has largely delegated voter-turnout efforts. Turning Point Action is one of several outside groups that have taken over the work of canvassing on behalf of Republicans.

“The Republican Party, in effect,” Hackney said, “is explicitly using churches through this system in order to get out the vote.”

Turning Point Action didn’t respond to messages requesting comment. A Trump campaign official told NBC News it doesn’t control Turning Point or its voter outreach efforts and declined to comment further. An IRS spokesperson said the agency couldn’t comment on specific organizations and referred a reporter to federal guidance that makes it clear churches can’t engage in partisan political activity.

Turning Point’s work with churches has been openly partisan, said Corinne Wolyniec, a researcher for Documented, a nonprofit group that investigates the influence of corporations and wealthy donors in government and politics. She found that the conservative activist group has mobilized evangelical congregations in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina and Wisconsin. At those gatherings — what Turning Point calls Super Chase events — Turning Point representatives train church members to use the group’s ballot-chasing app, which relies on voting history data to guide volunteers to call or knock on the doors of likely Republicans while avoiding anyone from the “wrong party” — meaning Democrats.

Turning Point staffers have at times advised pastors that that sort of partisan activism poses no legal risk, according to publicly available videos posted by the group. But some legal experts say otherwise.

“They can’t favor a particular candidate or, by implication, a group of candidates, like Republicans versus Democrats,” said Lloyd Mayer, a professor at Notre Dame Law School. “This effort is obviously favoring getting out voters who will favor the Republican candidates.”

An October post on X from Turning Point Action field representative Alyssa Goncales after leading a Super Chase event at Living Waters Bible Church in San Tan Valley, Arizona.

Johnny Buckles, a professor at the University of Houston Law Center, agreed that the churches working with Turning Point are most likely violating tax law as interpreted by the IRS — though he sees the Johnson Amendment itself as a violation of free speech rights under the First Amendment. 

“Even though I’m a critic of an absolute prohibition” on church political activity, Buckles said, “what you are describing to me is problematic under the statute as a potential violation.”

Documented reviewed dozens of social media posts, event pages and online videos to build its list of swing-state churches that hosted Super Chase events. Some churches and pastors promoted Turning Point events during worship services and in social media posts, NBC News found.

On a recent Sunday, a church member at Crossing Community Church in Genesee Depot, Wisconsin, invited congregants to stick around after the service to get training from a Turning Point Action representative before they went out in the community to encourage Christians to vote.

At Freedom House Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, a flashy announcement video played during a recent worship service, alerting members that “we are just a short time away from the most pivotal election of our lifetime,” then inviting them to participate in a Turning Point Super Chase event after the service.

“In 2020, 1.3 million Christians did not vote in North Carolina alone,” the narrator intoned. “It’s time to change that.”

NBC News contacted officials at each of the nearly two dozen churches that have hosted Turning Point events, but only two responded. 

Greater Augusta Apostolic Church in Columbia County, Georgia, which hosted a Turning Point Super Chase event in August, denied any direct affiliation with Turning Point in a statement and said it welcomes “people of all faiths, political backgrounds, etc (with no exclusions).”

David Rose, the pastor of Restoration Hope Church in Lake Havasu City, Arizona, acknowledged in an email that Turning Point held a Super Chase event at his church in August, but he said it was “not an event hosted by our church nor was it a church related event.”

“It is common for churches to allow other organizations to use their facilities outside of church related events,” said Rose, who personally promoted the Turning Point event on social media and posed for a photo in the sanctuary alongside volunteers holding signs that read “Commie Kamala” and “Make America Great Again.”

Even if the event wasn’t formally endorsed by the church, allowing Turning Point to use its facilities — along with the pastor’s participation — most likely violated tax law, experts said. Rose didn’t respond to follow-up questions about whether his church required Turning Point to lease space for the event.

Both presidential campaigns have sought to court Christian voters. Vice President Kamala Harris appeared at a Philadelphia church on Sunday, warning its Black congregation that America would become a “country of chaos, fear and hate” if she loses. Trump, meanwhile, has sought to maintain favor among conservative evangelical pastors who openly support him from the pulpit. (One of Trump’s long-standing promises to evangelicals: repealing the Johnson Amendment, which is named for then-Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson, who introduced the measure in Congress.)

Training churches to serve as unofficial Trump campaign surrogates fits into a broader campaign by Turning Point to mobilize evangelicals. Kirk has called on Christians to view conservative political activism as central to Jesus’ calling for their lives while promoting Trump as God’s favored candidate.

Discussing plans to build “the largest ballot-chasing army in the history of Republican GOP politics” at a California megachurch in March, Kirk called on pastors to rally their congregations to the cause.

“You cannot, in my personal opinion,” Kirk said, “be a true born-again Christian and vote Democrat in 2024.”

In the months that followed, churches across the country answered the call.

At Super Chase events, Turning Point trains volunteers to use its cellphone app, which provides users with addresses and names of residents who are likely to support Trump. Users can also upload their contacts to see which of their friends or associates are likely to be Republicans, or they can call or text randomly assigned numbers in swing states. The goal is to drive turnout among “low-propensity voters” — those who Turning Point believes support Trump but haven’t voted consistently in the past.

Turning Point representatives have at times downplayed the tax risks when they recruit churches and pastors to do such work. When a person attending a June Turning Point conference asked whether it was a good idea to run get-out-the-vote programs through churches, Brett Galaszewski, a Turning Point field director, said that’s exactly what pastors should be doing.

“I think we’re long past the point where church and politics are separate,” he said. “We have a country to save.”

At another session, Turning Point representative Schayden Gorai said there was no risk to running partisan political operations through churches.

“There’s never been an instance in history where a church has lost their 501(c)(3), their tax-exemption status, for getting political,” Gorai said. “And so we want to make sure that our churches understand that this is where they’re meant to be.”

Galaszewski didn’t respond to messages, and Gorai declined to comment.

Mayer, the Notre Dame Law School professor, questioned their advice. Although it’s true that the IRS has rarely revoked a church’s tax-exempt status over political activity — there has been one documented case since the 1990s, he said — it can take other actions, he said, including issuing warning letters or opening audits.

“That advice, of course, is ‘it’s all right because you won’t get caught,’” Mayer said.

He said pastors who want to explicitly engage in partisan politics should remember that “if you’re doing this and it violates the statute — and I think what they’re doing here does — you’re violating a law enacted by Congress.”

 

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Posted
29 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Scientology got tax exempt status by suing the fuck out the IRS repeatedly. AFter they fucking failed to infiltrate the IRS with agents that were Scientologists. They had hundreds of millions of dollars at the time in free cash, even though they owed the IRS a Billion Dollars when they started the lawsuits and massive media campaign, etc. 

It seems to me that smaller Baptist, and Evangelical churches have the opposite situation, and it's a vulnerability. The IRs should revoke their status, or challenge it, and take each little fucking church without ties to a massive organization and make them pay the fucking attorney fees to prove they didn't violate the law. Oh, you violated it and go bankrupt? Ok, well, we're going to take a real hard look at the brand new church you try to open up right down the street when you apply for tax exempt status. If you were a documened member and applying for the new church? NO dice, 10 year blacklist. You recruit completely new people with a clean record to be the face of the new church? Well ok, each new church gets a 5 year probationary period where you can get your shit revoked for violating the law, and you'll owe back taxes as a result. 

The SBC loves being a loose organization without overall ties so they can continue to diddle kids and suffer no consequecnes, well, guess what, that means you don't have shared resources to legally defend each fucking church that violates the fucking law. Your big churches like Second Bapstist would probably be just fine. They have resources. But the little ones would get fucked. And eventually they'd have a hard time recruiting new cut-outs to sign their names on the Tax Exempt documents. So by default...these guys would probably just end up...following the fucking law. I'm sure some smaller congretations where every member is a die hard trumper would survive and not leak anything...but a lot wouldn't. Make them fucking work for it.

I'm so sick of the poison of organized religion fucking politics more than it's already fucked. 

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57 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Churches hosting Turning Point get-out-the-vote events likely violate tax law, experts say

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turning-point-action-church-voting-pro-trump-tax-law-rcna178053

 

Dems are afraid of churches and tax exempt status. Dems also have an unrealistic hope to unite the country. Hence why Obama decided to forgive the Bush Admin for all crimes under their watch especially related to the war on terror.

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@Chewbacca @Chopper @6th Street @honolulu hornand anybody else in CO/Denver area...school me on CO republicans? not Boebert diehards and rural maga, those folks are the same everywhere...but like, how are citified republicans around here? 

i have a new friend i met at a doxie meet-up (Duke's "girlfriend's" mom lol), and she's invited us to a small get-together this weekend for the pups to play. maybe 12-15 people.

since it's so close to the election and we're still getting to know each, other she was gracious enough to lmk most of the other guests are republican and obviously politics might come up (it sounds weird but was actually really sweet and i appreciated the warning lol)

funny, she said 'since you're from Texas i assume you probably lean R?' to which i replied 'well yes i am from Texas... but politics is literally a top two reason we fled the insanity!' haha

anyway, my reply was basically 'not a problem at all for me...but fyi I am a highly informed voter, a have a govt degree from UT, i spent my entire career in the public sector, and politics is basically my hobby...so yeah, don't start none, won't be none' lol ( i mean i was also sweet and nice 😊 but that was the gist)

so honestly, im not particularly concerned, i'm more than capable of refusing to engage and letting Duke hang out with his girlfriend for a couple of hours without getting offended if politics comes up... but i'm also very likely to call out bs if/when i hear it being spread. but as these are Denverites and i have literally not seen one single Trump flag or sign in the city itself (H/W is everywhere!) i'm assuming these are going to be much more of the educated, wealthy/country club type... and i'm just wondering if there's any kind of hot buttons or whatever to be careful of?🤔

my hope is since they are hopefully NOT maga morons that we can just actually avoid politics altogether... you know, like civilized people used to? 

the fact that she had no idea which way i leaned after hanging out several times tells me that I am capable of that...but i don't know about others 😐

anyway... open to advice/suggestions! 😜

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