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6 hours ago, South Austin said:

Bobby Dooley.  Point guard for the Minnesota Lakers in the 1950s.  He was a trailblazer for the league.  Died in a tragic tractor accident.

 

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4 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I believe someone mentioned before that only Wilt and now Kobe are the only former MVPs who have passed.  

Moses Malone is another former MVP who is deceased.

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1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

That’s what the two semen defense boiled down to - using it as a scientific/psychoanalytical way of spewing the old “she was asking for it” bullshittery.

 

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The backlash and death threats against anyone bringing up how Kobe was a rapist is par for the American course. 

The national anthem should be renamed "The Death of Morals"

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33 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

The backlash and death threats against anyone bringing up how Kobe was a rapist is par for the American course. 

The national anthem should be renamed "The Death of Morals"

That's sad. It's important to note that he was never fully tried and definitely not convicted. But he did settle the case, and made a statement that wouldn't be allowable today.  If the exact same scenario played out today, the player would be indefinitely suspended. 

However it also doesn't mean that aspect of his life needs to be brought up every time as well.

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You can’t tell his story without bringing that up. Unless you want to cherry pick stuff.

Didn’t she get death threats after saying she was raped?

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6 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I believe someone mentioned before that only Wilt and now Kobe are the only former MVPs who have passed.  

You got something against guys named Moses? 3 time MVP, 12 time all star, and Chairman of the Boards.

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Mike Sagely, a helicopter pilot in the Los Angeles area with 35 years of flying experience, said the aircraft's last minutes suggest Zobayan had started to execute a maneuver designed to pop above the clouds by flying up and forward.

 

 

why would you fly forward if youre in fog?

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9 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Mike Sagely, a helicopter pilot in the Los Angeles area with 35 years of flying experience, said the aircraft's last minutes suggest Zobayan had started to execute a maneuver designed to pop above the clouds by flying up and forward.

 

 

why would you fly forward if youre in fog?

I'm guessing you can gain altitude faster???  But don't really know.  The whole problem is that per the reports they ended up flying down and turning....so is that disorientation where he thinks he's going up and he's actually going down?  Sounds like it based on what a few of the experts around here have said.  The helicopter version of a death spiral?

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So he almost made it above the clouds but then said fuck it and started a rapid descent? I’m still confused.

Edited by 'stache

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27 minutes ago, 'stache said:

So he almost made it above the clouds but then said fuck it and started a rapid descent? I’m still confused.

That was the speculation I saw from some "expert" on the news. He tried to get above the clouds to get visibility, realized he couldn't get above them, then descended. No idea if that even makes sense. Just what I saw. 

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9 minutes ago, Texas_Rocks said:

I believe that the accident is still under investigation.

Thanks for that stunning addition

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2 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Mike Sagely, a helicopter pilot in the Los Angeles area with 35 years of flying experience, said the aircraft's last minutes suggest Zobayan had started to execute a maneuver designed to pop above the clouds by flying up and forward.

 

 

why would you fly forward if youre in fog?

Because it’s nearly impossible to hover in fog or clouds. You need outside references. 

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2 hours ago, 'stache said:

So he almost made it above the clouds but then said fuck it and started a rapid descent? I’m still confused.

I don’t believe the final turning descent was done on purpose. I believe he was disoriented in the clouds and simply lost control. The fact that he was instrument rated but had stated he had no actual experience in the clouds is what makes me think that. It’s really easy to totally lose control in the clouds if you aren’t well-practiced at it. 

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2 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

I'm guessing you can gain altitude faster???  But don't really know.  The whole problem is that per the reports they ended up flying down and turning....so is that disorientation where he thinks he's going up and he's actually going down?  Sounds like it based on what a few of the experts around here have said.  The helicopter version of a death spiral?

Yea not sure either. If youre disoriented i think the last thing youd want to do is go faster. especially if youre upside down thinking youre right side up.  I mean im sure theres a screen that tells you if youre upside down in the cockpit. just calm yourself and head up.

 

 

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21 hours ago, Blotto said:

You got something against guys named Moses? 3 time MVP, 12 time all star, and Chairman of the Boards.

I thought there was one other one but couldn't think of it at the time. Regardless deceased former NBA MVPs is a limited group.  

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1 hour ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I thought there was one other one but couldn't think of it at the time. Regardless deceased former NBA MVPs is a limited group.  

Even more so for the guys that came directly out of HS, Moses being the first. Got to see him play HS games in the 70's.  At the beginning of the games the Petersburg, VA. crown would begin chanting na na na na - na na na na- hey hey  hey ..... gooooood bye....

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17 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

I thought there was one other one but couldn't think of it at the time. Regardless deceased former NBA MVPs is a limited group.  

Seems like a statistical oddity but some of the early winners (award came into existence in ‘55) are starting to get up there in age. Cousy is 90 and I assume Bill Russell isn’t far behind him in age.

overall nba players don’t seem to get involved in accidental deaths like athletes from the other major sports. Might just be a total numbers and averages thing.  And for top nba players, their salaries and endorsement money are at other levels. That might offer additional safety protection from some issues but could introduce other risks, like helicopter accidents.

On a side note, Kobe always seemed like someone out of place. Not connecting with anyone except presumably his wife and kids. I was never a fan but he was a great scorer. 

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Crazy ongoing story how snoop dogg threatens gayle king regarding comments about Kobe’s rape charge. Snoop may not have anything to directly to do with the death threats but not a good move by someone making a living off insurance commercials and tv shows with Martha Stewart.

Easy way to find yourself getting fired on a Sunday 

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5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Crazy ongoing story how snoop dogg threatens gayle king regarding comments about Kobe’s rape charge. Snoop may not have anything to directly to do with the death threats but not a good move by someone making a living off insurance commercials and tv shows with Martha Stewart.

Easy way to find yourself getting fired on a Sunday 

What did Gayle king do that would elicit death threats ?  I'm guessing she put his wife on the spot about the rape allegations.  

I like Snoop, he's fucking funny, and has made a living being high, which I salute him for, but fuck you man, you, by all accounts murdered somebody already so STFU, and keep being Marthas bitch.

Edited by Onboard 2.0

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I believe gayle king had a long interview with Lisa Leslie, not Kobe’s widow, where gayle asked a question about the impact of Kobe’s trial. CBS aired the question as a teaser.

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2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I believe gayle king had a long interview with Lisa Leslie, not Kobe’s widow, where gayle asked a question about the impact of Kobe’s trial. CBS aired the question as a teaser.

Ahhh, thanks.  Well hero worship has its issues.  How dare you disparage this great man after he dies....  

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On 2/9/2020 at 8:00 AM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Ahhh, thanks.  Well hero worship has its issues.  How dare you disparage this great man after he dies....  

Ehh, it wasn't hero worship, he was pissed she brought it up because black people are supposed to stick together.

 

Snoop seems like the type who thinks OJ is innocent and Cosby was railroaded by a bunch of hoes.

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Well at least I get the Nowthis jokes all kver the board. Ive been away too long.


Username checks out.

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Hate to tell you, but Deej beat you to it.


Apparently it took me 3 minutes to type that.

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On 2/9/2020 at 7:44 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

not a good move by someone making a living off insurance commercials and tv shows with Martha Stewart.

are you kidding? in this culture?

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4 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

I'm just now getting into the game. 

The game has been getting into NowThis for some time.

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On 2/7/2020 at 8:26 AM, RoundRobin said:

Was that before or after he caught VD from South Austin’s Mom?

 

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Vanessa Bryant sues helicopter company for deaths

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28773196/vanessa-bryant-sues-helicopter-company-deaths

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LOS ANGELES -- The widow of Kobe Bryant has sued the owner of the helicopter that crashed in fog and killed her husband and their 13-year-old daughter last month.

The wrongful death lawsuit filed by Vanessa Bryant in Los Angeles says the pilot, Ara Zobayan, was careless and negligent by flying in cloudy conditions on Jan. 26 and should have aborted the flight. Zobayan was among the nine people killed in the crash.

The 27-count complaint against Island Express Helicopters and Island Express Holding Corp. seeks unspecified compensatory and punitive damages. The company issued a statement Jan. 30 on its website saying the shock of the crash had prompted it to suspend service until it was appropriate for staff and customers.

The lawsuit asserts that Zobayan was negligent in eight different ways, including failing to properly assess the weather, flying into conditions he wasn't cleared for and failing to control the helicopter.

The National Transportation Safety Board, which is still investigating the crash, said in a preliminary report earlier this month that the helicopter showed no sign of engine failure and that Zobayan became disoriented before crashing into a hillside in Calabasas, California while trying to get to clear skies.

The lawsuit was filed as a public memorial service for Kobe Bryant, daughter Gianna and the other victims was being held at the arena where Bryant played most of his career.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

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me too...switched over for a daily dose of political ranting and she was just coming on. dammit. 

i don't know how she got through that, 💔amazing composure.

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