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5 minutes ago, Stilicho said:

Yeah. Little more to the story above.

Louisiana Kills Rape / Incest Exceptions

I thought Oklahoma was a broken hellscape.

Remember, Louisiana requires a digital government ID to look at porn on the internet.

https://www.cnet.com/culture/louisiana-residents-now-need-a-government-id-to-visit-porn-sites/

Which Texas is looking at, but has not seriously pushed.  Yet.

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"Three times in a row, since 2018, Republicans have been disappointed on election night in November, in large part because they lost the suburbs," the editorial begins. "More defeats Tuesday for the GOP in Pennsylvania, Colorado and Florida suggest the erosion is continuing."

The editors place the blame for the party's losses primarily on two factors: Its hardline stance on abortion rights and its continued embrace of former President Donald Trump.

https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/politics/the-erosion-is-continuing-wall-street-journal-editors-sound-alarm-of-gops-latest-election-flops/ar-AA1bmmDO?ocid=sapphireappshare

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Too bad the courts are already hack-stacked. There's an article in Rolling Stone -- paywalled I think -- that details the 5th circuit's shitty treatment of the lawyers defending mifepristone in court yesterday, accusing the lawyers of personal attacks on poor Kaczmaryk while being oh so deferential to the plaintiffs and Ho stating that they get to oversee the FDA. The quotes from the 3 hacktivists -- seriously the worst panel of the already terrible court -- are just infuriating. The GOP deserves so so many election losses for being an absolutely lawless party.

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Too bad the courts are already hack-stacked. There's an article in Rolling Stone -- paywalled I think -- that details the 5th circuit's shitty treatment of the lawyers defending mifepristone in court yesterday, accusing the lawyers of personal attacks on poor Kaczmaryk while being oh so deferential to the plaintiffs and Ho stating that they get to oversee the FDA. The quotes from the 3 hacktivists -- seriously the worst panel of the already terrible court -- are just infuriating. The GOP deserves so so many election losses for being an absolutely lawless party.

Perhaps the least respectful engagement I’ve ever had as an attorney with a judge was with a certain 5th Cir judge. And I know it’s a little thing, but it’s also a baseline: treat the parties and counsel with respect. You work for them, not vice versa. Most judges do a pretty good job of that. Yes, even some cranky and cantankerous federal judges ultimately do so. But not our ideologues.
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Posted (edited)
18 hours ago, Goofyboy said:


This is not evil or mean to them. Look at the responses… 99 minutes of life is better than murder, etc.

cruelty is the point

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cruelty is the point

They don’t see it as cruel. They see it as a blessing for that baby. Their perspective is completely bat shit insane.
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22 hours ago, Goofyboy said:


This is not evil or mean to them. Look at the responses… 99 minutes of life is better than murder, etc.

It demonstrates that the death of a living, “breathing” (tortured and ineffective as it was) person doesn’t matter. It’s the unborn life that matters. Once it leaves the womb, they stop caring. 

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That story was depressing as hell.  They literally created a situation where a completely unviable human being was tortured for over an hour and a half, because . . . whatever.  This is the kind of shit that has driven me from the church and just about slammed the door.  Fuck those assholes.

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Just waiting for the story of a mother dying from having to carry a non viable pregnancy to term. I just hope it’s a family member of one of the lawmakers or activists 

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10 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Just waiting for the story of a mother dying from having to carry a non viable pregnancy to term. I just hope it’s a family member of one of the lawmakers or activists 

don't be silly... those folks will be able to easily terminate a problematic pregnancy. only normal folk in these shitty states will be forced to carry.

also... these stories are horrible, nightmares, i grieve for these families... but let's not lose sight of the fact that a woman ought to have the right to terminate ANY pregnancy if she decides to (within reason, i.e., don't come at me with 'late-term abortions!!' horror story crap... those are extremely rare and are extreme circumstances, women having those have already had baby showers and decorated nurseries so fuck off with that bullshit).

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58 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Saw this broken down. If every Christian church helped out and provided resources for 2 kids, they could help every kid in foster care.

Resources? Sure. Just don’t leave them in the custody of the Christian churches. 

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59 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Saw this broken down. If every Christian church helped out and provided resources for 2 kids, they could help every kid in foster care.

JFK Jr will return and run for POTUS before that happens.  Christians don't give a shit about any kids that aren't their own. 

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Same guy that ran the numbers for kids ram numbers for homeless.

Including All churches:

Each church would only have to help 1 kid and foster care would go away
Each church would help two people and homeless goes away.

It won’t happen.

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I was perusing the postings of some of the finest, best educated minds in our beautiful country and have arrived to paste them here.  Mild off-topic threadjack, but i didn't think these ramblings deserved a thread of their own.  Just ridicule:

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Should adultery be illegal?

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Should adultery (specifically, someone that is married having sex with someone they're not married to) be illegal? I don't think it should be, but I asked one of my friends and he said he wouldn't be opposed to it being illegal, although he didn't know what the punishment should be. What are your thoughts?
Human nature, people should be free to choose. Keep the government out of people's private affairs. Pun intended.
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First, rid no fault divorce. Make breaking a vow mean something. We have thrown out all virtue like integrity, commitment, and honesty for satanic (yes, I said satanic) libertine values.

Secondly, if adultery is proven, the assets and custody awarded to the innocent spouse should be whip enough. Prison or anything of that nature is redundant, and excuses the offender from their responsibilities to their children.

(Edit: just saw the reply, we need to embrace human nature, haha yes society should devolve into human excrement rather than hold to objective standards.)
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in a way it used to be , Being a philanderer or divorced carried a significant social stigma

Normalizing divorce might be as bad for society as normalizing out of wedlock children
A significant % of divorces start from somebody committing adultery
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If you married a girl from the south, you would be in trouble. The majority of southern girls know how to shoot.
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I say leave it up to the states. That said, I do think there should be severe penalties for adultery. There should also be significant reforms to our family law system to remedy the imbalance favoring women.
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No it shouldn't be illegal, but it would be socially condemned by a God fearing society.
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Adultery is very destructive to kids, to other family members, to their spouse. It is rotten act of selfishness. No fault divorce was and is a disaster. If a person is thinking of cheating and there are risk that come with it, they may think twice and work on the problems with their relationship or better yet get help.

There are cases where divorce should be granted but these days, people change spouses like underwear and the kids and the country lose. This whole thing needs to be reformed.

 

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Really good article, chock full of links to several polls, highlights a fundamental shift in public opinion toward increasing support for abortion around the country after Dobbs, including among even Catholics and Republicans.

Couple of short passages below but here's a free link to the full article.

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“While Roe was settled law, you kind of didn’t have to worry about the consequences,” said Mollie Wilson O’Reilly, a writer for Commonweal, the Catholic lay publication, and a mother of four. “You could say, ‘I think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances,’ if you didn’t really have to think about what it would mean for that to happen.”

Raised in the church and still active in her parish, Ms. O’Reilly, 42, embraced its teachings that abortion was equivalent to murder, as part of a broader church doctrine on the protection of life that also opposes capital punishment and mistreatment of migrants.

Her evolution to supporting abortion rights started two years ago when she had a miscarriage that required emergency dilation and curettage; only when she saw her chart later did she realize the term was the technical name for abortion.

“When people have the idea that abortion equals killing babies, it’s very easy to say, ‘Of course I’m against that,’” she said. “If you start seeing how reproductive health care is necessary to women, you start to see that if you’re supporting these policies that ban abortion, you’re going to end up killing women.”

 

 

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In Portland, Ore., Ruby Hill, who is Black, said she had been alarmed at the flourishing of the Proud Boys and other white supremacist groups around her. She lives not far from where two members of an extremist gang ran over a 19-year-old Black man with a Jeep in 2016. Ms. Hill, also a Democrat, said she was then redistricted into a largely white congressional district represented by a Republican.

The Dobbs decision, she said, made her start recruiting supporters of abortion rights among her friends, her grandchildren and their friends, and family members in Tennessee and California and Virginia over a weekly Zoom, “so they can convince people they know to stand up for more rights before more get taken from us,” she said. “If they got away with this and they feel that nobody cares, it’s more rights they are going to proceed to take away — civil rights, voting rights, abortion, birth control, it’s all part of that one big package. If you sit on the sideline, it says that you think it’s OK.”

 

 

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Clarence Thomas opened up the contraception can of worms, and a lot of us here said Republicans might start pushing to do away with it.

What do you know, he couldn't hold back in an unrelated case and had to mention it again

 

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Crazy shit. Nebraska police obtained a warrant to get at Facebook messages between the mother and the daughter. Meta turned the messages over to the police.  The 17 year old daughter took abortion pills at 29 weeks. Survival rate for a premature baby at 29 weeks is 80 percent.  All of this was pre-Dobbs. 


 

 

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17 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Crazy shit. Nebraska police obtained a warrant to get at Facebook messages between the mother and the daughter. Meta turned the messages over to the police.  The 17 year old daughter took abortion pills at 29 weeks. Survival rate for a premature baby at 29 weeks is 80 percent.  All of this was pre-Dobbs. 


 

 

We live in the stupidest fucking world. 

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18 hours ago, Anastasis said:

^That the case where they lit the still born fetus on fire afterwards?

If they used mifepristone at 29 weeks I doubt it was stillborn 



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