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CFP National Championship Game: #1 Georgia vs #3 TCU.


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37 minutes ago, C-Man said:

The bowls are hardly a good barometer any longer. Look no further than our game.

Absolutely fair. Opt outs and then you have conferences like the SEC who game their matchups. Conference bowl records don’t matter anymore once opt outs became the norm 

Oh and who cares? Conference pride is stupid. 

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1 minute ago, Helobious said:

As the best player & most attractive guy in the entire school they had to put me on B team to carry them to wins. A team was already going to be solid with the rest of the good players. 

This is like when a Little League dad tells a player that the 8th spot in the lineup is the second cleanup spot...

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2 hours ago, Horn Dogg said:

Over 20 years after graduating UT I’m still trying to figure out what the fuck Plan II is.  Obviously I wasn’t smart enough for them to tell me about it ha ha.

i didn't pick a major, but i plan ii

it's basically the perfect fulfilment of the idea: "you go to college to finish your education, then graduate school to learn your trade"

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37 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

people don't appreciate how much tcu smoked georgia on kickoff return yardage tho.

That is funny but, even in that department UGa had better numbers.

TCU kicked off twice, for 127 yards, a 63.5-yard average. UGa kicked off 11 times, for 704 yards, a 64-yard average.

TCU returned seven kickoffs for 135 yards, a 22.5-yard average. UGa returned one kickoff for 27 yards.

TCU punted five times for 185 yards, a 37-yard average. UGa punted once, for 48 yards. There were no punt return yards.

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I think it's obviously great what Georgia has built, but college football is definitely all about stacking as much talent as possible and the coaches don't have to do shit on game day when it's this much of a mis match. Just grumble some meathead shit about hunting and kicking ass, every play you call is the right one, and roll the fuck out of some seriously inferior talent.

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31 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Absolutely fair. Opt outs and then you have conferences like the SEC who game their matchups. Conference bowl records don’t matter anymore once opt outs became the norm 

Oh and who cares? Conference pride is stupid. 

Even before opt-outs, bowl game results were a terrible way to attempt to measure relative conference strength.  There's a big difference between the way teams prepare for a bowl game, compared to the way teams prepare for regular season games.  Many coaches don't give a rat's ass about the bowl game results and simply use the extra practice time to prepare for the following year.  Many of the players have already checked out and moved on to the next thing on the priority list, even if they're not preparing for the NFL.  And then there's the holidays which tend to break training, and the banquet circuit which absolutely breaks training for those involved.  

It's always tempting to use the bowls as a measure, because we get a lot of intersectional games that we don't often get to see in the regular season.  But the disparity in the way various teams, coaches, and player choose to prepare for the bowls, makes them a poor metric.  Regular season matchups are a better metric, where the preparation and the stakes are more uniform from team to team. 

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11 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I think it's obviously great what Georgia has built, but college football is definitely all about stacking as much talent as possible and the coaches don't have to do shit on game day when it's this much of a mis match. Just grumble some meathead shit about hunting and kicking ass, every play you call is the right one, and roll the fuck out of some seriously inferior talent.

Wouldn't Texas have a lot more wins over the last several years if the talent mismatches mattered more than the coaching?

Sure, Kirby Smart has the roster advantage pretty much every week, but he's also a hell of a coach.

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1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Wouldn't Texas have a lot more wins over the last several years if the talent mismatches mattered more than the coaching?

Sure, Kirby Smart has the roster advantage pretty much every week, but he's also a hell of a coach.

He did his best coaching last week. And Texas does have more talent than pretty much any team they play, but we overrate that because we're Texas fans. We don't have 15 guys getting drafted in a given year.

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19 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I think it's obviously great what Georgia has built, but college football is definitely all about stacking as much talent as possible and the coaches don't have to do shit on game day when it's this much of a mis match. Just grumble some meathead shit about hunting and kicking ass, every play you call is the right one, and roll the fuck out of some seriously inferior talent.

Absolutely. 90% of the wins by these top programs are scheduled wins. They can roll out there and just out talent and out speed the other team. That isn't coaching at all. Coaching matters much more in the pro where the talent is even and the margin for error is extremely small. Coaching means zero when the talent discrepancy is as wide as it was last night. TCU was built like a G5 team. The coaches earn their salary by building the program during the recruiting period. Then after that, the program sells itself.

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10 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Wouldn't Texas have a lot more wins over the last several years if the talent mismatches mattered more than the coaching?

Sure, Kirby Smart has the roster advantage pretty much every week, but he's also a hell of a coach.

Agree.  The Georgia coaches thoroughly exploited the TCU defense tendency for their LBs to over-pursue with their running plays and absolutely murdered their deficiency in protecting the seams with their TE passing game.  

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3 hours ago, Cajun said:

What an absolute embarrassment that was last night.  Not only did they not belong on that field, I’ve never seen quit quite like that.

Ever.

Have you psychologically blocked out UH in 1988 with Andre Ware? The Rotten Bowl against Miami? Rout 66? A few of Mack’s efforts against OU?

 

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20 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

We aren’t very good?

Nah that’s Bullshit! We should have beat Bama by 10+ Texas Texh by 20, OKST by two TD’s, and TCU we should have ran off the field!! 
 

Texas is its own worst enemy if we had any type of consistency and didn’t play up or down we’re not having this convo. 
the only team that flat out beat us was Washington 

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Just now, D3zii said:

Nah that’s Bullshit! We should have beat Bama by 10+ Texas Texh by 20, OKST by two TD’s, and TCU we should have ran off the field!! 
 

Texas is its own worst enemy if we had any type of consistency and didn’t play up or down we’re not having this convo. 
the only team that flat out beat us was Washington 

Ok

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1 hour ago, B00M said:

How the fuck did we lose to that sorry fucking team. Eat dick TCU 

Because TCU was a solid team, won 13 games, almost won a 14th, and generally figured out how to get out of jams better than UT. Michigan couldn’t get out of their own way, and Georgia was utterly dominant at the line, had a size/speed advantage and did amazing scouting work to exploit the Frogs’ weaknesses. It’s not rocket science. 

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I just heard this was the most lopsided score in the history of any bowl game ever.  Is that possible?  Seems so.

Yes.

TCU now has the distinction of suffering the 1st and tied for 2nd worst blow outs in bowl history.

The only Fort Worth Classic took place on Jan. 1, 1921, as Centre beat TCU 63-7 in front of 9,000 fans. Centre finished 8-2 in the 1920 season.
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1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:


Yes.

TCU now has the distinction of suffering the 1st and tied for 2nd worst blow outs in bowl history.

The only Fort Worth Classic took place on Jan. 1, 1921, as Centre beat TCU 63-7 in front of 9,000 fans. Centre finished 8-2 in the 1920 season.

And they also have the largest bowl comeback ever too?

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37 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:

Because TCU was a solid team, won 13 games, almost won a 14th, and generally figured out how to get out of jams better than UT. Michigan couldn’t get out of their own way, and Georgia was utterly dominant at the line, had a size/speed advantage and did amazing scouting work to exploit the Frogs’ weaknesses. It’s not rocket science. 

I also think the Ohio State game being a nail biter was the worst thing that could happen for TCU. UGA came out with something to prove after playing poorly last week. That was a pissed off Dawg team. 

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1 hour ago, utee94 said:

Even before opt-outs, bowl game results were a terrible way to attempt to measure relative conference strength.  There's a big difference between the way teams prepare for a bowl game, compared to the way teams prepare for regular season games.  Many coaches don't give a rat's ass about the bowl game results and simply use the extra practice time to prepare for the following year.  Many of the players have already checked out and moved on to the next thing on the priority list, even if they're not preparing for the NFL.  And then there's the holidays which tend to break training, and the banquet circuit which absolutely breaks training for those involved.  

It's always tempting to use the bowls as a measure, because we get a lot of intersectional games that we don't often get to see in the regular season.  But the disparity in the way various teams, coaches, and player choose to prepare for the bowls, makes them a poor metric.  Regular season matchups are a better metric, where the preparation and the stakes are more uniform from team to team. 

Disagree.   When talking about a coach’s resume, bowl record almost always pops up

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