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I haven't opend a political thread since the debate where I was happy to read anything. All of Trump's scorn for a guy a few years older than him now coming back at himself is glorious.

We may not win, but at least I'm feeling alive again.

 

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

this coup talk is so adorable.  a wake of indictments, pleas, and convictions, the count undoubtedly into the hundreds across multiple jurisdictions when you add the individuals who attacked the Capitol. orchestrated attempts to subvert a constitutional process, fake electors, asking for votes to show up, intimidating the VP to block certification.

now they claim coup! coup! coup!! the will of the democratic voters! this is a breach of democracy, a bloodless overthrow! Biden declined the nomination. wtf is a private political party supposed to do? keep him on the ballot? believe it or not, the private party rules contemplate such things. besides, they are rules not laws. there is no Constitutional provision that says here's how the Republican and Democratic nomination process must go.

Speaker chucklehead said it's apples and oranges, yeah, smarty pants it's not the same you dumbfuck, that's what we've been saying.

after watching the Republican convention I truly believe they are the party of idiots. 95% of the time all they do is hurl insults, the rest of the time they bastardize logic and reason. no wonder the aggies love them some Trump.

 

The TexAgs thing where everyone is repeating coup is the dumbest stuff. A coup is seizing control the government. That’s not what happened. We’re all going to vote in the election just like we always do.

 

I have resigned myself to the reformation of parties where the Republican party is now just the party of halfwits. how does it capture an entire group of college educated people in unanimity?

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6 minutes ago, troph said:

this coup talk is so adorable.  a wake of indictments, pleas, and convictions, the count undoubtedly into the hundreds across multiple jurisdictions when you add the individuals who attacked the Capitol. orchestrated attempts to subvert a constitutional process, fake electors, asking for votes to show up, intimidating the VP to block certification.

now they claim coup! coup! coup!! the will of the democratic voters! this is a breach of democracy, a bloodless overthrow! Biden declined the nomination. wtf is a private political party supposed to do? keep him on the ballot? believe it or not, the private party rules contemplate such things. besides, they are rules not laws. there is no Constitutional provision that says here's how the Republican and Democratic nomination process must go.

Speaker chucklehead said it's apples and oranges, yeah, smarty pants it's not the same you dumbfuck, that's what we've been saying.

after watching the Republican convention I truly believe they are the party of idiots. 95% of the time all they do is hurl insults, the rest of the time they bastardize logic and reason. no wonder the aggies love them some Trump.

 

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4 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

The TexAgs thing where everyone is repeating coup is the dumbest stuff. A coup is seizing control the government. That’s not what happened. We’re all going to vote in the election just like we always do.

 

I have resigned myself to the reformation of parties where the Republican party is now just the party of halfwits. how does it capture an entire group of college educated people in unanimity?

The coup talk is literally to try and foment discord in the party by driving a wedge. It’s pathetic

It is no different than the bots and trolls saying that the DNC rigged it against Bernie. They don’t care about Bernie or anyone else. It’s to set a narrative 

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40 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Speaking of, now that Joe is done, I kinda hope he pardons Hunter on the way out. Because fuck the GQP, that’s why.  

As a capper he should then officially recognize Hunter's hog as America's Dong. Have the mint put it on the next $1 coin. 

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1 minute ago, troph said:

no not really but the last week has brought it a deeper level, they have insults and faulty logic, that's it. it's why arguing doesn't work with them and why they love trump.

I was ruminating over the fact that discussion is gone and a few (none that I know to be interested in real discussion) lament the fact that this board is full lib. It's actually not, it's just reason has been banished from the Republican Party and the former reasoned Republicans - some of the loudest posters here - are now firmly democrats. and the Republicans don't even realize, these people may not ever go back. After 3-4 cycles, it's hard to leave, it's almost like it requires a complete take over of a Party for folks to leave.  So while I'd love to return to an honest debate about tax policy, healthcare, entitlements, defense spending and the role of the federal goverment in personal welfare, there's no one on that side to have that conversation.  That conversation is happening entirely (if at all) within the democratic party between progressives and center left moderates.

YEP. We are effectively running this country with 40% of the population actively trying to break it. It’s remarkable things are going as well as they are, when you think about it. 

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Every person in the Trump campaign should be fired for not having a series of unified talking points on Kamala on the possibility that this happens.   I mean how are you this flat footed?   Their incompetence is no surprise as it starts at the top of that ticket. 

I am also surprised right now how unified I think most of the Democratic party seems to be behind Harris.  I know a huge part of this is a show of force to try to keep other legitimate options from throwing their hat in the ring at the convention, but I kind of feel like there is more unification happening than I expected and not just a collection of Harris playing some of her cards early to try to snuff out dissent.

 

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22 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

The right wing weirdos in my office are clearly lost this morning, going to be completely unable to not get super weird and off-putting to normal people. 

The "independent thinkers" have no idea what to think and it's awesome.

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2 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

The "independent thinkers" have no idea what to think and it's awesome.

Yes. Also, these guys have no idea to appeal to women that aren't obligated to like them via relation or marriage. 

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10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

YEP. We are effectively running this country with 40% of the population actively trying to break it. It’s remarkable things are going as well as they are, when you think about it. 

actively trying to break it is true for some and its giving them too much credit, the rank and file are doing not much more than pointing and laughing while they hurl 6th grade insults thinking that's logic. then when it's time to actually ask and answer real questions they formulate a response that would get an F on a 6th grade history test.

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It's always weird the rare occasions you see Dems actually act in an organized and politically effective manner and it's made exponentially better by the GOP somehow being caught flat footed and initially only having some real loser shit messaging in response. They'll get their shit together though, so the Dems better not all fall apart at the sight of the first polls that don't show a huge bump for Harris.

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The bigger issue to me is that you had to go to such a back bencher for this quote that she’s a Texas rep and I’ve never heard of her.

You haven’t heard of Jasmine Crockett? She’s the one that called MTG “bleach blonde, bad built, butch body” which is now the MTG’s thread title.
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If there's going to be talk of a coup taking place within a political party, let's discuss the wholesale ownership of the GQP by Trump, his family, and his malevolent group of minions. The proof lies in the number of former party leaders or prominent high-level former officials who are today vocal never-Trumpers or silent non-supporters.

The list includes W (fmr. GOP President), Romney (fmr. GOP presidential candidate), Pence & Cheney (fmr. GOP Vice Presidents), Paul Ryan (fmr. GOP Speaker of the House), Micheal Steele (fmr. chair of the RNC), and any number of former cabinet officials, senators, and representatives.

How many former Democrats are out there opposing Biden or Harris? Manchin? Sinema? I'm not even sure I'd call them opponents so much as I would obstinate obstacles. As far as public perceptions go, I'd say the party looks pretty fucking united.

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Man, it doesn't matter if they're hypocrites. They know they are. They just don't care because they don't deal in reality. They deal in the reality they have made. They can't break from the cult line because then it all falls apart. I'm sure you could easily compare how cult members act towards their religion with how MAGA acts towards Trump. 

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I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to TikTok, but it seems like the combo of Project 2025, "Black Jobs", and now Kamala/Coconut Tree/Brat summer have hit the algo like a runaway freight train. Maybe it will be enough to overcome Elmo turning twitter into a de facto arm of Dotard's campaign.  

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Another note (which I'm partially stealing from southpaw on Bluesky), but it doesn't seem like Biden's immediate endorsement of Harris is what Pelosi, Obama or Schumer wanted.  We know it's not what the donors they're friends with and coordinated the pressure campaign against Biden wanted. Which is yet another indication that they're actually pretty shitty at politics now.  Maybe it wasn't always the case for Pelosi and Schumer, and it was definitely not always the case for Obama, but they're entirely way too disconnected from average Americans and should not continue to have the huge roles they have within the Democratic party. 

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5 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

The Biden people have always insisted that he wins like 80-90% of the undecideds and I assume that applies to Harris as well.

Also, if she does well with Latina women, they get AZ.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The one think I dislike about Kamala is that she the youngest boomer by being born in Oct ‘64. Only 3 months younger and Gen X would finally have their own President.  Boomers had 4 of the last 5 presidents.

Really? The generational line is so precise and telling about someone that you would judge by that criterion? 

That's so very shallow, my friend. I think age can be a criterion but only insofar as how it physically and mentally impacts a candidate. 

I think we do find common ground in wanting a change of guard which is happening judging by the Dem leader in Congress and emerging younger leaders in both parties. I have often advocated for not voting for white men where possible. 

I'm a boomer. I never think that I will be best understood or represented by someone my age or of my arbitrary generation. I'm older than Harris. To me, she's pretty crisp and vital. 

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2 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to TikTok, but it seems like the combo of Project 2025, "Black Jobs", and now Kamala/Coconut Tree/Brat summer have hit the algo like a runaway freight train. Maybe it will be enough to overcome Elmo turning twitter into a de facto arm of Dotard's campaign.  

Can you explain that to me like I’m a 50 year old man?

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Another note (which I'm partially stealing from southpaw on Bluesky), but it doesn't seem like Biden's immediate endorsement of Harris is what Pelosi, Obama or Schumer wanted.  We know it's not what the donors they're friends with and coordinated the pressure campaign against Biden wanted. Which is yet another indication that they're actually pretty shitty at politics now.  Maybe it wasn't always the case for Pelosi and Schumer, and it was definitely not always the case for Obama, but they're entirely way too disconnected from average Americans and should not continue to have the huge roles they have within the Democratic party. 

The concern with Kamala has always been if white voters would get on board, so far so good.

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Another note (which I'm partially stealing from southpaw on Bluesky), but it doesn't seem like Biden's immediate endorsement of Harris is what Pelosi, Obama or Schumer wanted.  We know it's not what the donors they're friends with and coordinated the pressure campaign against Biden wanted. Which is yet another indication that they're actually pretty shitty at politics now.  Maybe it wasn't always the case for Pelosi and Schumer, and it was definitely not always the case for Obama, but they're entirely way too disconnected from average Americans and should not continue to have the huge roles they have within the Democratic party. 

What's the basis for this?  If it's purely due to delayed public endorsement, there's legitimate strategy involved in having the true power players (besides Biden, he always needed to be first) come out after the debate has generally been settled.

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8 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

The concern with Kamala has always been if white voters would get on board, so far so good.

And the progressives. Jayapal and AOC quashed that quickly with endorsements 

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