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6 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It definitely was.  Obama won the Driftless Area (and our neighboring WI and MN counties too) both times.

The farm crisis in the 80's made a lot of farmers hate Reagan and Republicans.  These were the guys my grandpa's age (my grandpa is a 90 year old Trump loathing yellow dog Democrat).  Their sons all did really well farming and became Republicans as a result (my old man being a rare exception).  Most of the old Carter Democrat farmers have died out, and I think that was a part of Trump's rise as Boomer and old Gen X rural guys became hardcore Trumpers.

I also think that low income/low education white people (IE white trash - I can say it because I live amongst them) didn't care about politics before Trump, and they turned out in a big way.  They're losing interest again as he's losing steam, and his win never really changed their lives.  Combine that with women overwhelmingly flipping to Harris and I can see how Iowa is making this political shift with different demographics than we saw in the past.

One side of my family was big Farmers Union/Co-op people so they have always been pretty blue. The slide to mega co-ops hurt a lot of engagement at the local level because those local board members would work their way up to other offices. 

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9 minutes ago, dcbc said:

That's cool, but it's hard for me to rationalize the visual with the "We're not Going Back" slogan.

It also travels forward, to the future.  

3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

 

Kamala Harris Dont Come GIF by GIPHY News

She pulls off a win and it's going to be hard not to.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

It also travels forward, to the future.  

6 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I never got past the title.

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Posted
59 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:


The women over 65 that got their rights in their lifetime aren’t going to let their daughters, granddaughters, and great granddaughters go back.

It's not just abortion.  Those women remember when they couldn't get a credit card because they were women.

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29 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I will stop wishing death upon the ex who lives in Las Vegas if Nevada comes through for Harris.

 

27 minutes ago, Js1 said:

No you won’t. And that’s okay 

Yeah, as long as Harris wins North Carolina by at least two votes, I’’ll still wish my ex was a flood statistic. 

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Final Sabato Crystal Ball - 

276 Harris (MI, PA, WI, NV)
262 Trump (GA, NC, AZ)

276-262 was what the models were coalescing towards about 2 weeks ago. 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, South Austin said:

"Tomorrow, Marty, we're sending you back to the future!"  That movie kicks so much ass.  A classic.

This is heavy.

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

We've been following the Kansas playbook, just a decade after the fact.  Kansas is the most similar state to Iowa, IMO, so I find that kind of humorous in the "laughing because I have no other choice" sort of way.

And can confirm on OK.  My cousin's wife is a teacher in Tulsa, and she's ready to burn everything down.

How does one go about sussing out the differences between Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, and Indiana?

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Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, G650 said:

The one thing I think people forget about Iowa is it has always had a bit of a different culture to the rest of the area. They had the whole prairie socialism thing and have had an independent streak. Overall conservative, but unique in some ways.

Texas Dems were a unique blend of non-bleeding heart liberalism and non-punitive conservatism.

When this place was different there was, I believe from my suburban white boy perspective, a sense that you should be handling your own business and leaving me alone. But, if someone was in real bind, hands would be happily extended. Well, between white people for the most part, I suppose.

We're just a couple of decades from completely transitioning to Anywhere USA NAZI Germany. 

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I am grateful that Selzer’s poll has afforded me enough hopium to not feel stressed since its release. I figure the worst case outcome will suck just as bad; at least there are a few days without gloom and doom.

I was proud our youngest went with us to cast her first vote, and that the oldest drove to San Marcos, from San Antonio, to vote in her second presidential election.

I need to be more mindful of wearing the Harris/Walz cap. Got my blood drawn today, and either I unlucked into the world’s shittiest phlebotomist, or the hat pissed her off.

 

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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Final Sabato Crystal Ball - 

276 Harris (MI, PA, WI, NV)
262 Trump (GA, NC, AZ)

276-262 was what the models were coalescing towards about 2 weeks ago. 

Allow David Cross GIF

 

az and nc go harris 

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Posted
Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

How does one go about sussing out the differences between Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, and Indiana?

Well they call them Runza's in Nebraska, and Bierocks in Kansas. Iowa has bullshit speed limits, while Nebraska and Kansas are much more reasonable. Nebraska has better gravel roads, but shitty black tops, while Kansas is the opposite. Nebraska and Iowa are much harder drinkers in aggregate. 

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13 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

It's not just abortion.  Those women remember when they couldn't get a credit card because they were women.

I only recently learned that women couldn't get a bank account without a man co-signing until like the 1980s.  That is fucking insane.

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Posted
34 minutes ago, 'stache said:

They blame the 8 democrats in the state legislature, or the federal government when a democrat is president. Stupid fucking morons.

Or center-right leaning OSSC Justices who aren’t 100% in line with PragerU and Trump Bibles creating education curriculums. 



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