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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

 

Unlike most countries in the world, the United States of America is not an ethno-state.  Japan is a nation because that's where the Japanese live.  Ireland is a nation because that's where the Irish live.  Germany is a nation because that's where the Germans live (at least, it's where they live now after they all got kicked out of Czechia, Poland, and elsewhere after WWII).  But the United States of America is different.  It's not a nation because it's where some people called the "Americans" live; it's a nation because a bunch of white Europeans committed genocide on an entire continent of Native American peoples. Then have spent the last few hundred years lying about it and pretending it didnt happen. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

So I'm on board with the general concept that cultural purity as a concept is rubbish . . . with one big caveat: philosophy.

Unlike most countries in the world, the United States of America is not an ethno-state.  Japan is a nation because that's where the Japanese live.  Ireland is a nation because that's where the Irish live.  Germany is a nation because that's where the Germans live (at least, it's where they live now after they all got kicked out of Czechia, Poland, and elsewhere after WWII).  But the United States of America is different.  It's not a nation because it's where some people called the "Americans" live; it's a nation because that's where a group of people set up a government based on certain self-evident truths, that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  The United States is not an ethno-state; it's an ideological state.  And it has been from its foundation.

So when the Cubans come in and bring their hot women and their delicious sandwiches and their rockin' music and their curious take on language and their questionable taste in fashion, it doesn't threaten the foundations of the United States.  Because the United States is not an ethno-state.  It doesn't matter whether we're eating hot dish or Cuban sandwiches or pizza or listening to R&B or salsa or country music.  It only matters that we broadly agree on the basic rights and liberties and obligations enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

So when the Cubans also bring along their love of fascism and try to re-establish the Bautista dictatorship here, then I do object.  And I do have a problem with the importation of that bit of their culture.  And if they are unwilling to adopt our culture on those points and want to import their own ideosyncratic culture of kleptocratic fascism, then I think they absolutely should fuck all the way off and be deported.

I single out the Cubans on this because that's whom the post I'm quoting is about, but that goes for any nationality.  Russians who think Putinism ought to be emulated here; Arabs who think a North American caliphate would be a splendid idea; Chileans who come here thinking we ought to have an American equivalent of the Pinochet dictatorship; or a certain Persian who thinks she shah was just great and we ought to import the absolute monarchy of pre-revolution Iran to the United States--fuck all of them.

Got damn this reminds me.  I had the best Cuban sandwich I've ever had two weekends ago at the campus hotel on the Aggy campus...of all places.  Fresh pulled pork plus all the usual fixings.  Honestly considering roadtripping back for lunch today.  

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Thought this was a pretty interesting podcast about losing touch with red america.

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/know-your-enemy-how-charles-murray-almost-predicted-the-trump-era/

The PBS questionnaire in the link is hilarious. It’s a “you might be a redneck” checklist. To be clear, I scored fairly high; I have lived in oklahoma and arkansas.

A sampling.

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What? No Springer?

Disappointed there wasn’t one of these.

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6 minutes ago, GenXer said:

The PBS questionnaire in the link is hilarious. It’s a “you might be a redneck” checklist. To be clear, I scored fairly high; I have lived in oklahoma and arkansas.

A sampling.

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What? No Springer?

Disappointed there wasn’t one of these.

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I took that just for shits and this is what I got:
 

Scoring

You got 59 points.

The higher your score, the thinner your bubble. The lower, the more insulated you might be from mainstream American culture.

See below for scores Charles Murray would expect you to get based on the following descriptions.

48–99: A lifelong resident of a working-class neighborhood with average television and movie going habits. Typical: 77.

42–100: A first-generation middle-class person with working-class parents and average television and movie going habits. Typical: 66.

11–80: A first-generation upper-middle-class person with middle-class parents. Typical: 33.

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Who didn’t see this coming?

President Donald Trump is seeking a $230 million payout from the Department of Justice as compensation for the multiple federal investigations into him, The New York Times reported on Tuesday, citing several people familiar with the matter.

And Trump’s own appointees and allies are the ones who will have the power to green-light the potential nine-figure payout.

 
 

“The situation has no parallel in American history,” wrote the Times’ Devlin Barrett and Tyler Pager, “as Mr. Trump, a presidential candidate, was pursued by federal law enforcement and eventually won the election, taking over the very government that must now review his claims. It is also the starkest example yet of potential ethical conflicts created by installing the president’s former lawyers atop the Justice Department.”

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Is Jimmie the NASCAR driver or the football coach or do I just put yes?

 

Edit: oh clever of them. 

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3 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Is Jimmie the NASCAR driver or the football coach or do I just put yes?

Gives the option to pick one or the other after you hit yes

Posted
12 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I took that just for shits and this is what I got:
 

Scoring

You got 59 points.

The higher your score, the thinner your bubble. The lower, the more insulated you might be from mainstream American culture.

See below for scores Charles Murray would expect you to get based on the following descriptions.

48–99: A lifelong resident of a working-class neighborhood with average television and movie going habits. Typical: 77.

42–100: A first-generation middle-class person with working-class parents and average television and movie going habits. Typical: 66.

11–80: A first-generation upper-middle-class person with middle-class parents. Typical: 33.

So their premise is that “mainstream” American culture is poor and working class and those people live in less of a bubble?  That seems…flawed. 

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Fairly accurate as an immigrant family, we were on the lower end of the socioeconomic level till 8th grade, I think. Also lived in the gentrifying part of Oakland for about four years that was a stone's throw away from the poor to working class to your gentrifying Bay-Area elites.

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38.  Unfair.  If they'd asked some more redneck-ish questions, like "how often do you hunt," and "do you eat food from gas stations," and "have you ever fallen off a boat because you were drunk," and shit like that, I'd have scored 100.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

38.  Unfair.  If they'd asked some more redneck-ish questions, like "how often do you hunt," and "do you eat food from gas stations," and "have you ever fallen off a boat because you were drunk," and shit like that, I'd have scored 100.

I got 39, owned.

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Posted
Just now, wildcat09 said:

I got 39, owned.

Now I'm really pissed.  Needed more detailed shit, like:

Have you ever used a coathanger as a car antenna?

Have you ever driven a car that required you to carry a flat of motor oil in the trunk to "top it off" every 300 miles?

Have you ever yelled "get that sumbitch" at a TV?  Extra points if it was during an SEC football game.

Do you own more than 3 firearms?

Have you ever bought a used tire?

Have you ever changed an under-the-hood car part yourself?

Do you own a smoker with wheels?

Have you ever stood around a BBQ pit shooting the shit with a buncha mexicans and drank so much beer that you had to take a piss behind said BBQ pit?

Have you spent more than 10 nights in a place with no electricity (not counting a tent while camping)?

 

I mean, come on.  I was robbed.

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We could definitely write a much better test. There weren't even questions about how many times a month you're in a hardware store or, for the ladies, how many erotic novels about being kidnapped by pirates they've read in the last year. 

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9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Now I'm really pissed.  Needed more detailed shit, like:

Have you ever used a coathanger as a car antenna?

Have you ever driven a car that required you to carry a flat of motor oil in the trunk to "top it off" every 300 miles?

Have you ever yelled "get that sumbitch" at a TV?  Extra points if it was during an SEC football game.

Do you own more than 3 firearms?

Have you ever bought a used tire?

Have you ever changed an under-the-hood car part yourself?

Do you own a smoker with wheels?

Have you ever stood around a BBQ pit shooting the shit with a buncha mexicans and drank so much beer that you had to take a piss behind said BBQ pit?

Have you spent more than 10 nights in a place with no electricity (not counting a tent while camping)?

 

I mean, come on.  I was robbed.

Yeah the questions were strangely arbitrary and specific. The fishing question was limited to the last 5 years, so I got no points on that one despite the fact that I grew up going fishing and used to hunt quite a lot. But several questions (Ever lived around a bunch of dipshits? Ever have a moron for a friend?) were not time-limited, so I got points for spending my toddler years in the rust belt and hanging around with a bunch of neighborhood hoodlums 30+ years ago. 

Also weird that it asked no questions about non-nuclear family. My dad was in management by the time I could understand what he did for a living. But I have a huge extended family and literally none of my grandparents or aunts / uncles had managerial or professional careers. And probably 50%+ of my cousins are blue collar working class. 

But frankly the idea of a bubble is stupid and reeks of elite guilt. “You may think the views of rightwing rubes are ignorant and mean-spirited, but maybe you’d change your perspective if you hung out with losers and talked about Jimmie Johnson at the bait shop.” No, not really. I’ve spent plenty of time around angry right-wing rubes, including in church, at IHOP, and at the pond digging night crawlers out of a styrofoam cup. I’ve heard their opinions. I’ve even heard them try to justify those opinions. And it only confirmed my view that they’re ignorant and mean-spirited.

The problem isn’t that I haven’t seen their world. Fuck, I spent years in that world and came out the other side. The problem is that they’ve never seen anything but their own little world. It’s the rubes that live in a bubble, not those of us who have seen life in both rural dumbfuckville and more urbane corners of civilization and explicitly chose to stay in the latter.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

So their premise is that “mainstream” American culture is poor and working class and those people live in less of a bubble?  That seems…flawed. 

keep in mind the poll is ~10 years old. think of it in that context and then extrapolate to today. it would be wildly different answers with an updated poll

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3 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Yeah the questions were strangely arbitrary and specific. The fishing question was limited to the last 5 years, so I got no points on that one despite the fact that I grew up going fishing and used to hunt quite a lot. But several questions (Ever lived around a bunch of dipshits? Ever have a moron for a friend?) were not time-limited, so I got points for spending my toddler years in the rust belt and hanging around with a bunch of neighborhood hoodlums 30+ years ago. 

Also weird that it asked no questions about non-nuclear family. My dad was in management by the time I could understand what he did for a living. But I have a huge extended family and literally none of my grandparents or aunts / uncles had managerial or professional careers. And probably 50%+ of my cousins are blue collar working class. 

But frankly the idea of a bubble is stupid and reeks of elite guilt. “You may think the views of rightwing rubes are ignorant and mean-spirited, but maybe you’d change your perspective if you hung out with losers and talked about Jimmie Johnson at the bait shop.” No, not really. I’ve spent plenty of time around angry right-wing rubes, including in church, at IHOP, and at the pond digging night crawlers out of a styrofoam cup. I’ve heard their opinions. I’ve even heard them try to justify those opinions. And it only confirmed my view that they’re ignorant and mean-spirited.

The problem isn’t that I haven’t seen their world. Fuck, I spent years in that world and came out the other side. The problem is that they’ve never seen anything but their own little world. It’s the rubes that live in a bubble, not those of us who have seen life in both rural dumbfuckville and more urbane corners of civilization and explicitly chose to stay in the latter.

This. The ability and privilege to travel, experience other cultures, and understand what people in different parts of the world experience is going to most likely be higher if you grow up wealthier and (often) better educated. That inherently means to me that you are in less of a bubble. But I’m just a second generation upper class white guy. 

7 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

(Ever lived around a bunch of dipshits? Ever have a moron for a friend?)

Big lol

Posted
46 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

New best score of the thread, boys. Feeling pretty good about my level of insulation from main stream American culture as it currently stands. 

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I got 29.

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6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

keep in mind the poll is ~10 years old. think of it in that context and then extrapolate to today. it would be wildly different answers with an updated poll

How many flags have you flown off the back of your truck in the last 5 years?

 

Do you know who catturd is?

 

Have you been in a parade that did not take place on land?

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10 minutes ago, Covri said:

How many flags have you flown off the back of your truck in the last 5 years?

 

Do you know who catturd is?

 

Have you been in a parade that did not take place on land?

How many boats were capsized in said parade?

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17 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

The problem isn’t that I haven’t seen their world. Fuck, I spent years in that world and came out the other side. The problem is that they’ve never seen anything but their own little world. It’s the rubes that live in a bubble, not those of us who have seen life in both rural dumbfuckville and more urbane corners of civilization and explicitly chose to stay in the latter.

The Venn diagram definitely involves people on both ends.  Bubba Slapdick from Possum Turd has zero perspective outside his little bubble.  But same with Sally Socialite from Manhattan, who commented when GWB was elected "how could he have won, I don't know anyone who voted for him!"

I have found myself shocked at various times in my life by the bubbles different people live in.  I traveled back and forth to Mexico to visit family as a child; I was shocked that most of my peers had never been to a foreign country.  I had ranching in my family (on both sides of the border); I was shocked by the city kids in my class who were scared by cattle at the Houston livestock show (and that was most of my classmates).  I was surprised by peers who didn't read like I did.  I was surprised in college and law school by how many classmates didn't know the first thing about guns, which would come up when I was heading out to go hunting.

I was lucky in that I was exposed to a pretty broad spectrum of people, cultures, and experiences.  And I realized that most people....aren't.

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On 10/17/2025 at 10:34 AM, BrickHorn said:

This. I simply cannot understand the appeal of cultural purity. I think it, like most positions at the heart of modern conservatism, is driven by insecurity.

You'd be mad too if the teachers kept cutting your children's genitals off and if everyone stopped hiring white people and you kept getting arrested just for saying "Merry Christmas." That's what's happening. They won't stop making us gay. It's time to fight back. That's why you should take your shirt off and train for battle in the woods with other men. Just men fighting like hell to stop being gay. 

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7 minutes ago, Chooky said:

You'd be mad too if the teachers kept cutting your children's genitals off and if everyone stopped hiring white people and you kept getting arrested just for saying "Merry Christmas." That's what's happening. They won't stop making us gay. It's time to fight back. That's why you should take your shirt off and train for battle in the woods with other men. Just men fighting like hell to stop being gay. 

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I was surprised by peers who didn't read like I did.

Ha. Similar experience here. I was in maybe 8th or 9th grade and visiting my dad’s family one summer. They lived in a tiny farm town of a few hundred people. I usually hated visiting because that meant spending most of Sunday in a Baptist church with no AC. But there were hot girls in Sunday school so I was looking forward to it this time around. 

We did a Bible reading where the kids in class took turns stumbling through part of a passage, then passing it to the next kid. It got to me and I read the next few lines (it was probably something about smiting some poor bastards), making sure not to fuck up any of the inane textual bullshit so as not to look dumb in front of the ladies. When I finished, the teacher looked at me and asked “Are you a [surname]?” I answered “Yes. Why?” “Because you sure read like one.” Apparently, my family is famous for being the town literates. 

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