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6 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

DOGE got another one.  There is no way this huge uptick in air travel disasters isn't connected with Elmo's dorks tinkering around in shit they shouldn't be tinkering around in.

I don’t think there’s been any uptick in fatal plane crashes, this stuff has always happened. The only out of the ordinary thing that has happened is the DC collision. 

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16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The previous admin approved millions for upgrading air traffic infrastructure, fyi

Fair. So they were attempting to tackle the problem.  Then we got Elmo, that fucking guy and Secretary Real World and here we are.  

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42 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The previous admin approved millions for upgrading air traffic infrastructure, fyi

“Millions” can be a wide range of numbers, the majority of which is inadequate to woefully inadequate to having any meaningful impact. Besides it wasn’t the culprit here. 

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1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Fair. So they were attempting to tackle the problem.  Then we got Elmo, that fucking guy and Secretary Real World and here we are.  

I was told it's DEI's fault. 

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Reddit puled up the LiveATC archive for 1030z, which is 0330 local. The poster says you can hear a call for a 3mi final at 14:15 of the link but I can't hear anything, even after downloading. 

https://archive.liveatc.net/kmyf/KSAN-KMYF-Twr-Both-May-22-2025-1030Z.mp3

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Posted
1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

General aviation planes crash literally everyday, and fatalities have been falling over time.  This has nothing to do with anything.  

Well, everyday since this January.  Pretty new phenomenon, really.

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1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

General aviation planes crash literally everyday, and fatalities have been falling over time.  This has nothing to do with anything.  

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Just looked it up:

In 2024, there were 1,417 aviation crashes reported. Of these, 258 were fatal, resulting in 306 fatalities. This year, there have been 1,415 aviation accidents, including 257 fatal incidents, with 306 reported deaths. 
 

As of May 22, 2025, there have been 23 plane crashes in the United States in 2025, according to the Aviation Safety Network. This includes 159 deaths in 48 U.S. aviation incidents, according to FOX 9. The NTSB has logged 250 aviation incidents and accidents across the United States from January 1 to April 24, 2025, including 182 airplane-exclusive incidents and accidents, with approximately 215 being fatal. Additionally, at least two people were confirmed dead and eight others injured after a small plane crashed in a San Diego neighborhood on Thursday morning, according to ABC News.

 

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8 minutes ago, Hate said:

Just looked it up:

In 2024, there were 1,417 aviation crashes reported. Of these, 258 were fatal, resulting in 306 fatalities. This year, there have been 1,415 aviation accidents, including 257 fatal incidents, with 306 reported deaths. 
 

As of May 22, 2025, there have been 23 plane crashes in the United States in 2025, according to the Aviation Safety Network. This includes 159 deaths in 48 U.S. aviation incidents, according to FOX 9. The NTSB has logged 250 aviation incidents and accidents across the United States from January 1 to April 24, 2025, including 182 airplane-exclusive incidents and accidents, with approximately 215 being fatal. Additionally, at least two people were confirmed dead and eight others injured after a small plane crashed in a San Diego neighborhood on Thursday morning, according to ABC News.

 

Bruh, edit and paste without formatting. 

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I fell into the general aviation youtube wormhole during covid, so I, bizarrely enough, follow it closely.  There are literally fatal crashes every day or so and they rarely make more than the local news. 

This is nothing new.  Our culture is so poisoned at this point that it has to be Biden or Trump's fault somehow.  This was very likely pilot error in bad weather.  

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1 minute ago, bschoolprof said:

I fell into the general aviation youtube wormhole during covid, so I, bizarrely enough, follow it closely.  There are literally fatal crashes every day or so and they rarely make more than the local news. 

This is nothing new.  Our culture is so poisoned at this point that it has to be Biden or Trump's fault somehow.  This was very likely pilot error in bad weather.  

Yeah, but who caused the bad weather, smart guy?

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27 minutes ago, Hate said:

Just looked it up:

In 2024, there were 1,417 aviation crashes reported. Of these, 258 were fatal, resulting in 306 fatalities. This year, there have been 1,415 aviation accidents, including 257 fatal incidents, with 306 reported deaths. 
 

As of May 22, 2025, there have been 23 plane crashes in the United States in 2025, according to the Aviation Safety Network. This includes 159 deaths in 48 U.S. aviation incidents, according to FOX 9. The NTSB has logged 250 aviation incidents and accidents across the United States from January 1 to April 24, 2025, including 182 airplane-exclusive incidents and accidents, with approximately 215 being fatal. Additionally, at least two people were confirmed dead and eight others injured after a small plane crashed in a San Diego neighborhood on Thursday morning, according to ABC News.

 

SEE IT'S THE EXACT SAME! 

Posted
39 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Bruh, edit and paste without formatting. 

Bruh, on my phone and don’t care anyway.

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A bit of a weird sentiment... I hate that this happened in a military housing neighborhood, but I'm glad this happened in a neighborhood with a lot of folks who are trained in emergency response.  

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1 hour ago, Hate said:

Just looked it up:

In 2024, there were 1,417 aviation crashes reported. Of these, 258 were fatal, resulting in 306 fatalities. This year, there have been 1,415 aviation accidents, including 257 fatal incidents, with 306 reported deaths. 
 

As of May 22, 2025, there have been 23 plane crashes in the United States in 2025, according to the Aviation Safety Network. This includes 159 deaths in 48 U.S. aviation incidents, according to FOX 9. The NTSB has logged 250 aviation incidents and accidents across the United States from January 1 to April 24, 2025, including 182 airplane-exclusive incidents and accidents, with approximately 215 being fatal. Additionally, at least two people were confirmed dead and eight others injured after a small plane crashed in a San Diego neighborhood on Thursday morning, according to ABC News.

 

These numbers seem off. 

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It's sudden-onset spatial disorientation, brought on by the Covid-19 vaccines and covered up by the MSM.

Real talk this looked like they were on a pretty normal approach for landing, no distress calls, plane just goes down a couple miles short.  Some talk that it may have hit power lines but that might not necessarily be the root cause (if it hit power lines, then it was already too damn low). Maybe just flying too low trying to get a visual on the runway, in completely fogged in conditions. The Blancolirio channel has the initial rundown:

 

 

 

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"Doesn't sound great but we'll give it a try." 

Maybe some GetThere-itis, a dose of falling behind the aircraft, and a little sprinkling of spatial disorientation. You can hear him try to turn the lights up on the runway right before the crash. Everything seemed normal until it wasn't. 

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"Doesn't sound great but we'll give it a try." 
Maybe some GetThere-itis, a dose of falling behind the aircraft, and a little sprinkling of spatial disorientation. You can hear him try to turn the lights up on the runway right before the crash. Everything seemed normal until it wasn't. 

Just ignored his instruments is my guess
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https://apnews.com/article/plane-crash-san-diego-a4b2317b8ad16689cc61ed1144b27bd5

Music agent owned the plane and had a pilots license...

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A private plane clipped power lines before crashing into a home early Thursday in San Diego, killing the co-founder of a music talent agency and two of its employees and igniting cars in a neighborhood of U.S. Navy-owned housing.

The Sound Talent Group said co-founder Dave Shapiro died in the crash. He is listed as the plane’s owner and has a pilot’s license, the Federal Aviation Administration said. The talent agency did not provide the names of the other employees.

At least 100 residents were moved to a nearby elementary school serving as an evacuation center, the San Diego Police Department said.

The plane was headed from New Jersey to San Diego after a fueling stop in Kansas. It crashed about 2 miles (3 kilometers) from San Diego’s Montgomery-Gibbs Executive airport.

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The Sound Talent Group, co-founded by Shapiro, has represented artists including American pop band Hanson, American singer-songwriter Vanessa Carlton, and Canadian rock group Sum 41. Hanson is perhaps best known for its earworm 1990s pop hit, “MMMBop.”

Shapiro also owns Velocity Records, the label for American rock bands such as rosecoloredworld and Concrete Castles and the Japanese heavy metal band, Nemophila.

Shapiro also owned a flight school, Velocity Aviation.

 

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8 hours ago, HenryJames said:

I have no desire to ever fly in a small plane or a helicopter.

 

I have a friend with a small plane. I've ridden in it probably 10 times in 20 years or so. We're both nearing 60, and I've begun to wonder what I would do if he had a massive coronary suddenly

I mean if that happened in a car, I could steer from the passenger seat, shift to Neutral, maybe use the emergency brake to slow down. 

 

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https://apnews.com/article/plane-crash-san-diego-a4b2317b8ad16689cc61ed1144b27bd5
Music agent owned the plane and had a pilots license...
A private plane clipped power lines before crashing into a home early Thursday in San Diego, killing the co-founder of a music talent agency and two of its employees and igniting cars in a neighborhood of U.S. Navy-owned housing.
The Sound Talent Group said co-founder Dave Shapiro died in the crash. He is listed as the plane’s owner and has a pilot’s license, the Federal Aviation Administration said. The talent agency did not provide the names of the other employees.
At least 100 residents were moved to a nearby elementary school serving as an evacuation center, the San Diego Police Department said.
The plane was headed from New Jersey to San Diego after a fueling stop in Kansas. It crashed about 2 miles (3 kilometers) from San Diego’s Montgomery-Gibbs Executive airport.
The Sound Talent Group, co-founded by Shapiro, has represented artists including American pop band Hanson, American singer-songwriter Vanessa Carlton, and Canadian rock group Sum 41. Hanson is perhaps best known for its earworm 1990s pop hit, “MMMBop.”
Shapiro also owns Velocity Records, the label for American rock bands such as rosecoloredworld and Concrete Castles and the Japanese heavy metal band, Nemophila.
Shapiro also owned a flight school, Velocity Aviation.
 


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Posted
3 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

sounds like descent below minimums in foggy weather, should have gone around, didn't, hit terrain, people died.  no politics, just general poor judgement.  

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1 hour ago, Handcruser said:


Just ignored his instruments is my guess

Well, yeah. I don’t know anything about the guy but I’m guessing we’re going to find out he’s a low time pilot on the aircraft and maybe barely IFR capable. This shit happens all the time. 

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51 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I have a friend with a small plane. I've ridden in it probably 10 times in 20 years or so. We're both nearing 60, and I've begun to wonder what I would do if he had a massive coronary suddenly

I mean if that happened in a car, I could steer from the passenger seat, shift to Neutral, maybe use the emergency brake to slow down. 

 

One thing unites all men.  Deep down we are all certain that if we are on an airliner and the pilots are passed out or dead, we are the best choice to stay calm and collected and land that sucker with a little help from the tower. The really hard part is going to be keeping the pretty stewardess calm. 

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10 minutes ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Well, yeah. I don’t know anything about the guy but I’m guessing we’re going to find out he’s a low time pilot on the aircraft and maybe barely IFR capable. This shit happens all the time. 

I doubt it. The article I posted says he owned a flight school, and another article from the BBC had the following

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In addition to his music career, Mr Shapiro was an avid pilot and a certified flight instructor with 15 years of experience, according to his aviation company Velocity Aviation.

 

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My grandkid has a friend that lives in one of those weird gated communities where everyone has a hangar and there are these little planes that taxi along the street and you have to stop at stop signs for them to pass you. It's very strange. The homes are pretty basic but I guess because you have a huge glorified barn on yoru property and a hobby plane, every house is like a minimum $3mm.

I go to that neighborhood to carpool for school or birthday parties or what have you and I think to myself it's the riskiest and most insane thing a lawyer-by-day or run of the mill orthodontist could ever do. It feels like not a matter of when but if, but maybe I'm just a big baby and/or too poor to understand.

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34 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

One thing unites all men.  Deep down we are all certain that if we are on an airliner and the pilots are passed out or dead, we are the best choice to stay calm and collected and land that sucker with a little help from the tower.

Look at this guy who needs help from the tower to land an airliner. Looks like somebody didn't play enough Microsoft Flight Simulator as a kid.

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