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4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They’ve gotten dozens of “life threatening flood” warnings?  Over how long a period of time?

Do they just ignore them?  Have they always just ignored them?

You would think that they'd take that as some sort of sign, particularly being religious adjacent and so forth.

Something something "But I sent you two boats and a helicopter" something...

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2 hours ago, NWBuck said:

You would think that they'd take that as some sort of sign, particularly being religious adjacent and so forth.

Something something "But I sent you two boats and a helicopter" something...

Jerry Clower, my favorite comedian of all time (along with Richard Pryor and Norm MacDonald) did the best version of that bit, and I think it was because as a devout Christian he took Christ’s gospel more seriously than his own blind spots and social pressure and talked about Godliness even in jest he did it like a preacher.
So when he did that bit he was very clearly castigating the ignorance and shortsightedness of a large part of own audience. And they knew it, and he knew they knew it. 

by the way, you can develop a fair impression of Jerry Clower by mastering the following phrases:

”Newgene Ledbetter”

”Marcel”

“Liberty, Mississippi”

”projected, and predicted”

”AAAAGH, this things killin’ me!”

”Super-dyna-whoppin’, mo-jo-doola, whim-diddley hotel”

 

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26 minutes ago, texasdago said:

In related news, here's the situation in Norman, Oklahoma and their funding for a flood warning system:

https://kfor.com/news/local/norman-loses-flood-warning-system-funding-after-trump-administration-cancels-fema-grant-program/

 

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A spokesperson for the City of Norman told News 4 Monday that the “search to identify other funds for an automated flood warning system will continue, just as OU continues to suck.”

 

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14 hours ago, Gap03 said:

While I am sympathetic to the argument that there should be more classes of warnings to distinguish between "there could be serious flooding" and "OMG GTFO away from all rivers right now!!", when you choose to lodge over a hundred 7-10-year-old girls on a flood plain, you just need to shut the fuck up.  Once you're in that position, you need to be rousting all of those girls and getting them to higher ground EVERY FUCKING TIME you get a flood warning.    

And you should probably practice the evacuation plan like a fire drill within the first few days after the campers arrive. 

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

And you should probably practice the evacuation plan like a fire drill within the first few days after the campers arrive. 

You can't hardly get a drink on a cruise ship after boarding until you've gone over the life preserver + lifeboat drill.  It seems pretty obvious to most of us, but sure, let's pretend there is no threat.

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But I think it's been established that Kerr County had the funding on two separate occasions, but declined to use it because of librul derangement syndrome.


People here have linked meeting minutes from a couple of separate meetings in which they seemed to reject funds that came from Obama or Biden. The quotes were pretty damning.

I listened to The Daily (NYT) podcast episode on this yesterday and it was a little less clear about it. You can listen here, starting at the 19:30 mark:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000717346070

They said that Kerr County officials tried on multiple occasions to get funding and were denied.
1. Kerr County approached TDEM in 2017 and told the proposal did meet federal grant requirements.
2. They tried again in 2018 and the state declined again.
3. In 2024, the Upper Guadalupe River Authority went to the Texas Water Development Board, which only offered a tiny grant that wasn’t big enough.

For whatever reason, The Daily makes no mention of the funding that was supposedly offered and Kerr County declined because it came from Biden. They are normally pretty thorough with their journalism and that seems easy enough info to uncover, so I was confused why it wasn’t discussed.

I found this other article from The Texas Tribune that goes into it:
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-commissioners-flooding-warning/

It says that Kerr County was given a $10.2 million grant from the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) in 2021. That is apparently the “Biden money” they wanted to send back, but ultimately kept it and opted to spend it on things other than flood warning systems. They spent $7MM on public safety radios for the sheriff and fire departments, $1MM on bonuses for the sheriff’s employees, and other undisclosed stuff.

Perhaps it wasn’t mentioned by The Daily because the ARPA funds were specifically provided for flood warning systems. Although they could’ve used it for that and chose not to, and you have to wonder about those $1MM in bonuses when the flood warning system also costs $1MM.
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2 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

 


People here have linked meeting minutes from a couple of separate meetings in which they seemed to reject funds that came from Obama or Biden. The quotes were pretty damning.

I listened to The Daily (NYT) podcast episode on this yesterday and it was a little less clear about it. You can listen here, starting at the 19:30 mark:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000717346070

They said that Kerr County officials tried on multiple occasions to get funding and were denied.
1. Kerr County approached TDEM in 2017 and told the proposal did meet federal grant requirements.
2. They tried again in 2018 and the state declined again.
3. In 2024, the Upper Guadalupe River Authority went to the Texas Water Development Board, which only offered a tiny grant that wasn’t big enough.

For whatever reason, The Daily makes no mention of the funding that was supposedly offered and Kerr County declined because it came from Biden. They are normally pretty thorough with their journalism and that seems easy enough info to uncover, so I was confused why it wasn’t discussed.

I found this other article from The Texas Tribune that goes into it:
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-commissioners-flooding-warning/

It says that Kerr County was given a $10.2 million grant from the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) in 2021. That is apparently the “Biden money” they wanted to send back, but ultimately kept it and opted to spend it on things other than flood warning systems. They spent $7MM on public safety radios for the sheriff and fire departments, $1MM on bonuses for the sheriff’s employees, and other undisclosed stuff.

Perhaps it wasn’t mentioned by The Daily because the ARPA funds were specifically provided for flood warning systems. Although they could’ve used it for that and chose not to, and you have to wonder about those $1MM in bonuses when the flood warning system also costs $1MM.

 

 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

You can't hardly get a drink on a cruise ship after boarding until you've gone over the life preserver + lifeboat drill. without getting norovirus. It seems pretty obvious to most of us, but sure, let's pretend there is no threat.

Fify

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1 hour ago, wild_turkey said:

People say they get flash flooding warnings all the time. That may certainly be true, but when you are responsible for the lives of 650+ young girls, you have to treat every single one as a potential safety risk. They failed to do that.

This is precisely why the spokesman for the camp can whine all he wants about constantly getting alerts and this was the '100 year flood' that no one was prepared for (ehhh, except the people at Camp Mo) and all it is irrelevant. 

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People here have linked meeting minutes from a couple of separate meetings in which they seemed to reject funds that came from Obama or Biden. The quotes were pretty damning.

I listened to The Daily (NYT) podcast episode on this yesterday and it was a little less clear about it. You can listen here, starting at the 19:30 mark:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000717346070

They said that Kerr County officials tried on multiple occasions to get funding and were denied.
1. Kerr County approached TDEM in 2017 and told the proposal did meet federal grant requirements.
2. They tried again in 2018 and the state declined again.
3. In 2024, the Upper Guadalupe River Authority went to the Texas Water Development Board, which only offered a tiny grant that wasn’t big enough.

For whatever reason, The Daily makes no mention of the funding that was supposedly offered and Kerr County declined because it came from Biden. They are normally pretty thorough with their journalism and that seems easy enough info to uncover, so I was confused why it wasn’t discussed.

I found this other article from The Texas Tribune that goes into it:
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-commissioners-flooding-warning/

It says that Kerr County was given a $10.2 million grant from the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) in 2021. That is apparently the “Biden money” they wanted to send back, but ultimately kept it and opted to spend it on things other than flood warning systems. They spent $7MM on public safety radios for the sheriff and fire departments, $1MM on bonuses for the sheriff’s employees, and other undisclosed stuff.

Perhaps it wasn’t mentioned by The Daily because the ARPA funds were specifically provided for flood warning systems. Although they could’ve used it for that and chose not to, and you have to wonder about those $1MM in bonuses when the flood warning system also costs $1MM.

I wasn’t aware of the context of the 2021 meeting until my wife cleared it up. The “strings” and “attachments” the local yokels wanted to avoid for accepting Biden’s money were COVID-related (mask and vaccine mandates).
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On 7/14/2025 at 9:53 PM, Ted Lange said:
On 7/14/2025 at 10:18 PM, Biff Tannen said:

As goes Florida, so goes the nation. Or something. We are a nation of god damn ignoramuses. 

On 7/14/2025 at 10:20 PM, Brisketexan said:


That is a real letter. From the attorney general. Of an entire state.
Jesus monkeyfuck. Florida policy might as well have banned werewolves, and required all veterinarians to report all dogs that show signs of being a werewolf. We live in the stupidest, most insane timeline imaginable, and it’s only getting worse. Much worse.

So, if there's spraying/weather control, who do they think is behind it? The Republicans control everything, so wouldn't they be to blame?

Someone make it make sense.

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On 7/15/2025 at 8:31 PM, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Also, I get that you receive flood warnings all the time as you built a camp in a flood plain, but this shit was different. This was some weird tropical storm that just fucking sat and fucking unleashed. Someone should have been paying attention 

Well, this. And as I mentioned before, it really is just that fucking simple. If someone with a pulse and two functioning brain cells to rub together had simply been awake and monitoring the situation, NOBODY would have died at Camp Mystic.

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On 7/15/2025 at 8:38 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

They’ve gotten dozens of “life threatening flood” warnings?  Over how long a period of time?

Do they just ignore them?  Have they always just ignored them?

Exactly what I was about to ask.

"We get loads of these vague messages, so ... " 

"So, what, you just ignore them?"

"No, we don't ... I mean ... uh ... derp. And did I mention derp?"

"Then why was this one ignored. If they're all the same and you don't usually ignore them, then why was this one ignored. It couldn't be different if they're all the same."

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7 hours ago, wood said:

So, if there's spraying/weather control, who do they think is behind it? The Republicans control everything, so wouldn't they be to blame?

Someone make it make sense.

Deep state, bro

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9 hours ago, C-Man said:


I wasn’t aware of the context of the 2021 meeting until my wife cleared it up. The “strings” and “attachments” the local yokels wanted to avoid for accepting Biden’s money were COVID-related (mask and vaccine mandates).

more made-up maga bullshit

vaccine mandates were tied to covid funding only at nursing homes and in schools

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On 7/16/2025 at 3:58 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:

by the way, you can develop a fair impression of Jerry Clower by mastering the following phrases:

”Newgene Ledbetter”

”Marcel”

“Liberty, Mississippi”

”projected, and predicted”

”AAAAGH, this things killin’ me!”

”Super-dyna-whoppin’, mo-jo-doola, whim-diddley hotel”

 

 

"Just shoot up heah amongst us 'cuz one of us needs some relief."

"I just want to make sure that he knows that I'm a bull."

 

Justin Wilson had some great ones too.

 

 

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10 hours ago, wood said:

Well, this. And as I mentioned before, it really is just that fucking simple. If someone with a pulse and two functioning brain cells to rub together had simply been awake and monitoring the situation, NOBODY would have died at Camp Mystic.

My wife laughs at me when I stay up overnight if severe weather is on the horizon.  The is zero percent chance I would have gone to bed had I been at one of those camps.

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2 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

jesus these people are fucking weird 

I just wonder what heinous mortal sins those 27+ girls committed in order for Jesus to let them drown at Camp Mystic.

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18 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just wonder what heinous mortal sins those 27+ girls committed in order for Jesus to let them drown at Camp Mystic.

"No, no - you just don't understand.  See Horn Under a Bad Sign's post. They were just being carried home by Jesus himself - just disregard all the stories from other Camp Mystic campers about 7-8 yos screaming as their cabins filled with water and they were ultimately swept away in the torrent.  I'm sure there was absolutely no suffering at all ... "  

/ Our fairy tale loving brethren on the right

12 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 

 

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On 7/16/2025 at 3:58 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Jerry Clower, my favorite comedian of all time (along with Richard Pryor and Norm MacDonald) did the best version of that bit, and I think it was because as a devout Christian he took Christ’s gospel more seriously than his own blind spots and social pressure and talked about Godliness even in jest he did it like a preacher.
So when he did that bit he was very clearly castigating the ignorance and shortsightedness of a large part of own audience. And they knew it, and he knew they knew it. 

by the way, you can develop a fair impression of Jerry Clower by mastering the following phrases:

”Newgene Ledbetter”

”Marcel”

“Liberty, Mississippi”

”projected, and predicted”

”AAAAGH, this things killin’ me!”

”Super-dyna-whoppin’, mo-jo-doola, whim-diddley hotel”

 

Is this the guy who used to do the ads for Magic Bait Catfish Bait?

Posted
7 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

If Jesus was carrying them home, then why did people save some of them?

And why did he make the form of his love 100,000,000,000 gallons of rainwater?

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5 minutes ago, Bookman said:

And why did he make the form of his love 100,000,000,000 gallons of rainwater?

"God works in mysterious ways.  Now shut the fuck up with all of your facts."

/ Baptists probably

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3 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

"God works in mysterious ways.  Now shut the fuck up with all of your facts."

/ Baptists probably

That god sounds like a real asshole. 

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This event seems to highlight an issue that will be a growing concern for this country and especially Texas.

In the age of governmental downsizing and diminishing oversight and regulation, it's left up to the corporate interests to protect the public/consumers.

The same corporate interests that gave you the tobacco industry coverup of the effects of smoking, mining companies making swaths of inhabited land uninhabitable, BP and the effects of the Deepwater Horizon spill and cleanup on the gulf, Boeing and the 737 Max, the NFL and its squelching of studies and research showing a link between football and CTE and 23042342389234 other real world examples where the profit motive outweighed ethics, morality and public safety.

I would be surprised if once the government is pruned to an acceptable level of non-existence, tort law isn't reformed to further absolve corporate interests from any responsibility to public safety.  You will need to do your due diligence on everything.  There will be no safety nets, if there ever were.

We are reforming government to be one of, by and for the corporations.

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Well, at very least the small government bootstrap disciples are using this tragedy to pause and reassess their dogma.

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Members of a Kerrville group called the Young Americans Action Coalition, a non-profit entity with an Instagram bio that reads "Empowering the next generation of leaders with traditional American values and biblical principles," called on residents to protest the possible increase.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/hill-country/article/kerr-county-flood-tax-rate-20773769.php

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4 hours ago, Goredho said:

This event seems to highlight an issue that will be a growing concern for this country and especially Texas.

In the age of governmental downsizing and diminishing oversight and regulation, it's left up to the corporate interests to protect the public/consumers.

The same corporate interests that gave you the tobacco industry coverup of the effects of smoking, mining companies making swaths of inhabited land uninhabitable, BP and the effects of the Deepwater Horizon spill and cleanup on the gulf, Boeing and the 737 Max, the NFL and its squelching of studies and research showing a link between football and CTE and 23042342389234 other real world examples where the profit motive outweighed ethics, morality and public safety.

I would be surprised if once the government is pruned to an acceptable level of non-existence, tort law isn't reformed to further absolve corporate interests from any responsibility to public safety.  You will need to do your due diligence on everything.  There will be no safety nets, if there ever were.

We are reforming government to be one of, by and for the corporations.

The pendulum will eventually stop swinging. The voters want populist policies. There will eventually be a realization that American politics has become a con game. At this point it might be more likely that the realization comes after the pendulum’s momentum can be stopped with votes. It usually takes bloodshed to stop it. Sometimes it takes guillotines. But at some point it will likely start to swing back. 

Either that or future historians will look back on the 20th century like the Islamic golden age. After the US has been carved up by corpo-religions with ai feeding the proletariat their favorite flavor of propaganda-porno-tainment. 

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