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12 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

FBI is gonna catch and release right wingers until they find a transgender immigrant to pin it on. 

 

 

every mexican in utah is a suspect !

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3 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Someone earlier said he last word was "violence."  You can see what a uniting figure he was.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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That is just nuts. Does anybody actually count organized crime conflicts as mass shootings? What a dishonest way to hijack a discussion.

But I guess it doesn't matter now.

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Honestly it probably works out better for the ruling party if they don’t find the killer anytime soon. Lots of valuable projection and fear stoking opportunities.

Also, anyone know how to mint a Kirk meme coin we can instantaneously get rich off of?

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3 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

If they catch the shooter at a fast food restaurant I hope it’s some weird regional thing like a Taco John or Runza. Maybe Perkins.

Hope it’s Cracker Barrel 

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5 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Someone earlier said he last word was "violence."  You can see what a uniting figure he was.  Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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Yeah, after seeing this replayed 100 times on the news, I was thinking, he spent his literal last breaths being a snarky, sarcastic asshole.  No debating, just being a dick.  Not celebrating his death, not mourning it either.

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Patel is a fucking idiot. When the right wants to whine about DEI, maybe take a look at that unqualified moron first. 

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7 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

If they catch the shooter at a fast food restaurant I hope it’s some weird regional thing like a Taco John or Runza. Maybe Perkins.

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5 minutes ago, Drifterwood said:

Honestly it probably works out better for the ruling party if they don’t find the killer anytime soon. Lots of valuable projection and fear stoking opportunities.

 

I'm afraid that shooter may never be caught.

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Patel is a fucking idiot. When the right wants to whine about DEI, maybe take a look at that unqualified moron first. 

You think Trump wanted a competent law enforcement that had discretion and jurisdiction over him? It was always by design to wreck these agencies.
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4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

hell fickign no .......

 

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Fucking flags spend more time at half mast than full lately, it feels like.  Country definitely headed in the ‘right’ direction…

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1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Fairly easy to wax a prairie dog at 1000 yards?  Over a half mile?  That's not exactly an easy shot.  

How big is a prairie dog, exactly?  Because I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home, and they're not much bigger than two meters.

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God damn, for hours now I've been hearing "I condone this. We should not accept this type of violence in our society". Oh, so fucking brave. Such a contrast to all the other people on my tv talking about how awesome this is and how they want to see more of it. 

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38 minutes ago, speed817 said:

WTF 

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I am glad I am no longer there because I would have unleashed a torrent of curse words upon seeing that in the Bronx. A divisive hate monger died. He does not deserve anymore attention. He reaped which he sowed. 

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18 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

That is just nuts. Does anybody actually count organized crime conflicts as mass shootings? What a dishonest way to hijack a discussion.

But I guess it doesn't matter now.

This has been beaten to death.  Yes, every shooting of multiple people is included in the largely discussed mass shooting statistics.  And yes the majority of mass shooting events involve gang violence 

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6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

God damn, for hours now I've been hearing "I condone this. We should not accept this type of violence in our society". Oh, so fucking brave. Such a contrast to all the other people on my tv talking about how awesome this is and how they want to see more of it. 

Coming out of the woodwork. People I haven't seen post in years

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9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

This has been beaten to death.  Yes, every shooting of multiple people is included in the largely discussed mass shooting statistics.  And yes the majority of mass shooting events involve gang violence 

According to Google:

 

No, the majority of mass shooting events do not involve gang violence; most mass shootings are linked to community violence or intimate partner violence. While gang-related incidents can be a component of some mass shootings, they are less common than those stemming from domestic disputes or general community conflicts, according to the U.S. Concealed Carry Association and Everytown Research & Policy

 

Types of Mass Shootings
Mass shootings can be categorized by their underlying cause, and these categories include:
  • Community Violence: These events often occur among people who know each other and may be related to gang violence or drug deals. 
    Intimate Partner Violence:
    These incidents involve a perpetrator targeting members of their own family.
    Public Mass Shootings:
    These are often thought of as random acts of violence in public, but they are less common than community or domestic violence events.
    Extremist-Motivated Shootings: Some mass shootings are carried out by extremists, often linked to white supremacy or other ideological beliefs. 
    Other Types:
    Incidents can also be motivated by personal reasons, such as deep-seated grievances, or can be connected to criminal activity outside of organized gangs.
     
    Frequency of Gang-Related Mass Shootings
    • A study by the Congressional Research Service found that events associated with criminal activity (which can include gang activity) and domestic disputes made up a large percentage of mass shootings between 1999 and 2013. 
    • However, research from the Gun Violence Archive and Everyday Violence suggests that mass shootings are more frequently linked to community or intimate partner violence than gang activity. 
       
       
     
     
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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, dcbc said:
Types of Mass Shootings
Mass shootings can be categorized by their underlying cause, and these categories include:
  • Community Violence: These events often occur among people who know each other and may be related to gang violence or drug deals. 

Lol.  Ok.  Sure, not “gang” violence “community” violence 

 

good grief 

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I've been hearing about "thoughts and prayers" for years and actually tried it out earlier today.
It works! I've totally moved on, thanks. 
 
 

I would even venture to label him as a Domestic Terrorist!
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2 minutes ago, dcbc said:

According to Google:

 

No, the majority of mass shooting events do not involve gang violence; most mass shootings are linked to community violence or intimate partner violence. While gang-related incidents can be a component of some mass shootings, they are less common than those stemming from domestic disputes or general community conflicts, according to the U.S. Concealed Carry Association and Everytown Research & Policy

 

in their latest study, the concealed carry association reported that up to 135% of mass shootings were connected to gangs.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Lol.  Ok.  Sure, not “gang” violence “community” violence 

 

good grief 

username checks out.

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1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

in their latest study, the concealed carry association reported that up to 135% of mass shootings were connected to gangs.

That's a typo.  It's 185%.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

laura loomer and other maga spokespeople want to see the left suffer vengeance for this

- adam wren cnn correspondent just now

Its pretty telling that they assume the guy is a leftist or that the left has any unified platform.

Shooter could think CK didn't go far enough, or just be crazy or any number of motivations.

 

Lotta projection with the jump to conclusions outrage.

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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

Lol.  Ok.  Sure, not “gang” violence “community” violence 

 

good grief 

Silly me for copying your post, which quoted Kirk's last words, into Google.  Words have meaning, and it was fair to surmise what the intended meaning of "gang violence" was as used.  Nice try.

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54 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Good job, dipshit. 

 

They arrested the only two trans people in the area but they had alibis.

38 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I wonder if the F.B.I. has anyone left who knows how to conduct an investigation of something like this. 

Not in positions of authority.

49 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

FBI is gonna catch and release right wingers until they find a transgender immigrant to pin it on. 

 

Or some other member of a targeted group.

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2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

in their latest study, the concealed carry association reported that up to 135% of mass shootings were connected to gangs.

who are in the community, domestically.  Jeez. ;)

Posted
1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Man, my Republican friends are *upset*.

Whoooo boy.

And weird how many claim “I didn’t always agree with him but…”

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12 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

There are people on this earth whose goal is to unify and there are people on this earth whose goal is to divide us.

Charlie Kirk was a divider.

That obviously doesn’t mean he deserved to die or that what happened today was okay in any way. But if we keep giving the dividers louder microphones and bigger platforms, then events like today will become more and more common.

It’s amazing that he would do a large, outdoor appearance like this with no security considering the current landscape in this country. 

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1 minute ago, dcbc said:

Silly me for copying your post, which quoted Kirk's last words, into Google.  Words have meaning, and it was fair to surmise what the intended meaning of "gang violence" was as used.  Nice try.

The fuck are you talking about?  The AI slop you posted literally says mass shootings aren’t “gang” violence but “community” violence, which it then states includes “gang” violence.

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I just told a friend I have known for 35 years to have a nice life when she posted a Bible Verse about Charlie Kirk and said he was a good Christian. I then told her Jesus preached to love others and treat others how you would want to be treated, and Charlie Kirk had nothing but hate in him, and his goal in life was to stoke that hate through his platform. She of course did not post something similar with Melissa Hortman died.  I am done with people. Effectively, she only condemned political violence when someone she perceives on her side is the victim.
I am done. If you hate people for things they cannot control like their race, their sex, their gender, or where they were born, you are a piece of shit. I might not understand people or their life choices, but I try and at least treat them with respect, unlike purported Christians.

Welcome to the party, pal.
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5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I just told a friend I have known for 35 years to have a nice life when she posted a Bible Verse about Charlie Kirk and said he was a good Christian. I then told her Jesus preached to love others and treat others how you would want to be treated, and Charlie Kirk had nothing but hate in him, and his goal in life was to stoke that hate through his platform. She of course did not post something similar with Melissa Hortman died.  I am done with people. Effectively, she only condemned political violence when someone she perceives on her side is the victim.

I am done. If you hate people for things they cannot control like their race, their sex, their gender, or where they were born, you are a piece of shit. I might not understand people or their life choices, but I try and at least treat them with respect, unlike purported Christians.

And let me be clear, if you choose to be an asshole, then yeah, you are going to get blowback. Choosing to be an asshole is free game.

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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

The fuck are you talking about?  The AI slop you posted literally says mass shootings aren’t “gang” violence but “community” violence, which it then states includes “gang” violence.

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There's no consensus on what constitutes a mass shooting, the FBI doesn't track it.

You and the deceased Kirk just like to include gang violence because it implicates brown poor people and dilutes the number of armed lunatics murdering innocents.

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The gang shootings statistic argument is a classic misdirection they always use. Yes gang shootings happen and are bad. Irrespective of that, number of school and church shootings is TOO MANY. May as well start an argument about AR-15 meaning "assault rifle" plays right into their dumb hands

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I’m not seeing this at all. Now what I am seeing is people being critical of Charlie’s words and pointing out the irony and hypocrisy. But celebrating! Yeah I’m not seeing that, at all.

 I get the distinction, but I’m talking about real people, celebrating. And I agree there’s not a lot of it but the algorithms are boosting it. A local activist in Dallas I grew up with was like “rest in piss.” Really embarrassing 

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

This is what I’m seeing 

 

 

Agree, that this is most of what actual Democrats are doing. 

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

Yeah. No way any prominent Democrats are cheering.

But that’s the thing- Republicans and MAGA types don’t make any distinction between the knucklehead fringe of the online left and “Democrats.”

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

But that’s the thing- Republicans and MAGA types don’t make any distinction between the knucklehead fringe of the online left and “Democrats.”

Is your point they would not label all Democrats as Marxist/Leftist/Communists if people on Twitter weren't celebrating? What are we doing here?

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I have thought long and hard about this, even reached out to my pastor. After we prayed together, all I have to say is this, political violence cannot be the method of conflict resolution in our great nation.  Thoughts and prayers go out to Charlie's family.  Tragic. 

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