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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Counterpoint: the entirety of the federal government is working to restore every one of those things to the prior state of affairs. And in that endeavor, it is slavishly supported by 40%+ of the country.

Dude. Accept it: we’re toast. We’re going to be the shittiest “western” country in the world, and there won’t even be a close second.

Thanks, Obama.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Counterpoint: the entirety of the federal government is working to restore every one of those things to the prior state of affairs. And in that endeavor, it is slavishly supported by 40%+ of the country.

No argument there.  Where I have a slight disagreement is that the 40% will definitely support him in his attack on the others, but if as I think will happen, we are about to enter a massive recession and increased inflation, and the economy is taking a dump, then the 40% will be less than 40 once they make the connection between tariffs and getting rid of immigrant workers and firing all the federal employees who are there for a reason and who won’t be supplying those services to the 40% anymore.

Will this change the mind of the 40%? Oh hell no. It only takes five or 10% and a lot of of those voters only care about how they are doing.  Right now. High-fiving and laughing at the deportation of Hispanic workers is fantastic.  They are owning the libs and filling their oats.   Once they lose their jobs, their parents die because the rural hospital is closed , etc., their attention will turn more inward.   

Almost 70% of Trump supporters say they disagree that Trump has been transparent on Epstein.  70%.   That is a large number of people saying when my God king looks me in the eye on camera and says that - he is full of shit.  This could be a nothing burger or it could be huge.    We only need to knock off 5% or 10%.   It’s interesting that Rogan and other influencers are crapping on Donald about immigration and Epstein.  His chucklehead Bros do not follow everything with great detail, and a lot of them will do what Joe says.  

 

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Dude. Accept it: we’re toast. We’re going to be the shittiest “western” country in the world, and there won’t even be a close second.

We are in perfect agreement there.  I’m just more optimistic on how long it will last.  if the economy will hurry up and tank, we might get the house back. you know, if his people don’t throw out mailing ballot and we actually have an election and all.

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6 hours ago, yoladu said:

I mean honestly, Trump could poll unfavorably among Republicans at 99% in regards to the Epstein files and a Maxwell pardon, and Trump is going to do whatever he needs to do to cover up his association/crimes with Epstein. If that means brokering a deal that pardons a sex trafficker, he will.

He has no fucks to give at this point. He has managed to position himself to be accountable to no one.. none of the branches of government, not the legal system, and not the electorate.

It’s astonishing at this point. He’s such a detestable person, but he’s got so many people convinced that he’s fighting for them. 

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Whatever’s in the Epstein files about Trump is so bad that he called them a hoax, accused Obama of treason, shut down the Epstein investigation, recessed Congress to prevent a vote on releasing the files, and rushed his criminal attorney to prison to offer Epstein’s accomplice an immunity deal

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7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Whatever’s in the Epstein files about Trump is so bad that he called them a hoax, accused Obama of treason, shut down the Epstein investigation, recessed Congress to prevent a vote on releasing the files, and rushed his criminal attorney to prison to offer Epstein’s accomplice an immunity deal

He fucked an underage girl and had Epstein killed in prison. I’ve never seen anyone more scared of a scandal than this loser

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He fucked an underage girl and had Epstein killed in prison. I’ve never seen anyone more scared of a scandal than this loser

It does make you wonder why a guy who has proven to be bulletproof (“massive amounts of felonies? Rape? Impeachments? Who cares, 50% approval rating on Inauguration Day!”) is panicking over this. It has to be more than just accusations of underage sex, because he could just wave that away as fake news and most of his base would be back on board a week later.
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4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

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Wait, I thought we were doing the whole "if you have nothing hide you shouldn't have an issue with law enforcement aggressively checking things out" bit.   Are we not?

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“Oh gosh, the president being best friends with the most famous child rapist in history is so boring…. let me regale you with stories about windmill cancer instead.”

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1 minute ago, Foggy Notion said:

“He stole people that worked for me.”

It's interesting. I don't think he's referring to 16 year old Virginia Giuffre, who was a Mar-a-Lago employee before Epstein trafficked and abused her. But...maybe? 

 

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:


It does make you wonder why a guy who has proven to be bulletproof (“massive amounts of felonies? Rape? Impeachments? Who cares, 50% approval rating on Inauguration Day!”) is panicking over this. It has to be more than just accusations of underage sex, because he could just wave that away as fake news and most of his base would be back on board a week later.

I think there is more than the sexual stuff that he's concerned about.  I think he did some shady financial stuff that could have double crossed someone like Putin or the like.  Maybe it's something that sends him to jail, but he can get out of that.  This is something that would be settled out of court somehow.  Maybe not him falling out of a window, and surely he doesn't give a shit about any of his family, but whoever it is has the goods to ruin his reputation as the brilliant dealmaker who should be king.  

 

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Looking forward to "letting everyone with any involvement free and paying them reparation money" becomes what MAGA says they wanted all along.

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The Republican Party = Pedophile Party

The Republican Party = The party who is okay with, and celebrates, giving a child sex trafficker a pardon

 

 

Dems have their messaging, will they use it?

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13 minutes ago, Pancho said:

The Republican Party = Pedophile Party

The Republican Party = The party who is okay with, and celebrates, giving a child sex trafficker a pardon

 

 

Dems have their messaging, will they use it?

Nah they’re too busy complaining about Sydney Seeeney’s jeans ad.

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15 minutes ago, Pancho said:

The Republican Party = Pedophile Party

The Republican Party = The party who is okay with, and celebrates, giving a child sex trafficker a pardon

 

 

Dems have their messaging, will they use it?

Season 3 Episode 23 GIF by The Simpsons

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39 minutes ago, Red Five said:

And what coincidental timing that would be.

Honestly, "hey tell everyone I'm innocent and I'll order the SCOTUS to set you free" is a hell of a move.  It shouldn't be possible in a functioning democracy, but we all know how this will turn out.  The only ones with blood on their hands will be the one branch that doesn't have to face the voters.

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" if you look at the historic record, having sex with 11-13yr olds was acceptable to our founding fathers therefore is any of this even really even a crime?"

Sincerely,

6-3 SCOTUS  

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18 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Nah they’re too busy complaining about Sydney Seeeney’s jeans ad.

what's this?  Off to the Googles

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1 hour ago, pyrohornIII said:

I think there is more than the sexual stuff that he's concerned about.  I think he did some shady financial stuff that could have double crossed someone like Putin or the like.  Maybe it's something that sends him to jail, but he can get out of that.  This is something that would be settled out of court somehow.  Maybe not him falling out of a window, and surely he doesn't give a shit about any of his family, but whoever it is has the goods to ruin his reputation as the brilliant dealmaker who should be king.  

 

maybe there's a live boy...

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32 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Honestly, "hey tell everyone I'm innocent and I'll order the SCOTUS to set you free" is a hell of a move.  It shouldn't be possible in a functioning democracy, but we all know how this will turn out.  The only ones with blood on their hands will be the one branch that doesn't have to face the voters.

And watch how fast the legal system suddenly moves when it's time to set a sex predator free. Thanks to a fellow sex predator. Man, when the evangelicals finally learn about all this....

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14 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

No argument there.  Where I have a slight disagreement is that the 40% will definitely support him in his attack on the others, but if as I think will happen, we are about to enter a massive recession and increased inflation, and the economy is taking a dump, then the 40% will be less than 40 once they make the connection between tariffs and getting rid of immigrant workers and firing all the federal employees who are there for a reason and who won’t be supplying those services to the 40% anymore.

Will this change the mind of the 40%? Oh hell no. It only takes five or 10% and a lot of of those voters only care about how they are doing.  Right now. High-fiving and laughing at the deportation of Hispanic workers is fantastic.  They are owning the libs and filling their oats.   Once they lose their jobs, their parents die because the rural hospital is closed , etc., their attention will turn more inward.   

Almost 70% of Trump supporters say they disagree that Trump has been transparent on Epstein.  70%.   That is a large number of people saying when my God king looks me in the eye on camera and says that - he is full of shit.  This could be a nothing burger or it could be huge.    We only need to knock off 5% or 10%.   It’s interesting that Rogan and other influencers are crapping on Donald about immigration and Epstein.  His chucklehead Bros do not follow everything with great detail, and a lot of them will do what Joe says.  

 

We are in perfect agreement there.  I’m just more optimistic on how long it will last.  if the economy will hurry up and tank, we might get the house back. you know, if his people don’t throw out mailing ballot and we actually have an election and all.

I think he has the levers to pull to prevent a massive recession in the next couple years.  He can just kick the can down the road until the next president has to clean shit up.  

It definitely hurts his chances of just squatting in the WH as there will be a recession.  It’s just not imminent imo.  

But yes all of this could definitely cause him to lose 5% - we don’t need that 35% that will support him no matter what.  
 

edit: oh and to come full circle I think this debacle of pardoning her would lose a few critical percentage points for him.  Pathetic it doesn’t lose him 25% or more but we know the deplorables and what they stand for.  

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The Republican Party = Pedophile Party
The Republican Party = The party who is okay with, and celebrates, giving a child sex trafficker a pardon
 
 
Dems have their messaging, will they use it?

They also get children killed too. A lot of them, and like to use children’s education as leverage in negotiations.
Posted
22 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Can anybody explain to me the GOP's new position on russiagate?   Ladybugs was on the Sunday shows screaming about "new evidence".  I'm sure it's bullshit, but, exactly what is their evidence? 

look for Lindsey to go right of Genghis Khan between now and the GOP primary in 2026 for his seat.

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13 hours ago, Da Fino said:

It’s astonishing at this point. He’s such a detestable person, but he’s got so many detestable people convinced that he’s fighting for them. 

FIFA 

 

3 hours ago, kevwun said:

It would save Trump a lot of heat if they overturn it and he doesn't have to pardon her.

And then she’d sue for unlawful imprisonment. Fuck this simulation. 



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