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21 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I know one person that posted just yesterday the vote totals as of 8:30 pm election night in the 6 “disputed” states, then the explanation that the dems then brought bushels of prefilled Biden ballots until they had enough to win. But it’s ok because the real ones are watermarked. 
 

so they are still clinging to that narrative as well. 
 

doesn’t occur to them that such demonstrative evidence would have made its way into one of the 35 court filings 3 weeks after the commission of the crime. 

Have you heard that all mail in ballots were irradiated but the stupid dems didn’t know that so this election is over?

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24 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I know one person that posted just yesterday the vote totals as of 8:30 pm election night in the 6 “disputed” states, then the explanation that the dems then brought bushels of prefilled Biden ballots until they had enough to win. But it’s ok because the real ones are watermarked. 
 

so they are still clinging to that narrative as well. 
 

doesn’t occur to them that such demonstrative evidence would have made its way into one of the 35 court filings 3 weeks after the commission of the crime. 

Does he post here under @TtomTerrific?

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:


It sure seems like their core story always comes down to this: there’s a “ghost in the machine” that secretly rigs the vote count. And how can we tell? Easy - it counted more votes for Biden than Trump, and that can’t possibly happen because everyone loves Trump bigly, so clearly, it’s fraud. Have I got that about right?

They thought they had it rigged for Trump in the opposite direction. I think that’s why they are so damn set on trying to figure this out. I also think that’s why trump got as many votes as he did. <opposite q conspiracy>

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So Sidney Powell is doing her press conferences and going on shows, collecting money, and then passing the actual work off to a federal employee?

Gotta keep up the grift while blatantly blurring the line between government and campaign work!

it’s the epitome of the Trump presidency. 

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Hell be 25th’d by Valentine’s Day anyway so Kamala can bring forth the end of days. 

Everybody focuses on "Kamala" meaning "Lotus", "Beauty", and "Perfection" in Hindu/Sanskrit.

But they overlook that in Iranian (Persian), it means "death, betrayal, socialism, remover of tiger penises, and utmost ruthlessness"

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So Sidney Powell is doing her press conferences and going on shows, collecting money, and then passing the actual work off to a federal employee?

A barely literate federal employee apparently 

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6 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Never. But even if they did it doesn’t matter. Our system has one critical dependency: mutual good faith support for democratic institutions. that’s broken down once before in our history- 1860. 
I remember when @Anastasis was cheering for Donald Trump in 2016, in part because of what it would do to the GOP. I observed then that the last time a major political party collapsed the result was fire and blood. 
We can take momentary comfort in the fact that 80 million people voted to reject all this, and if our institutions hold for the next two months, he’ll be president. That’s better than the alternative. But the plain truth is that the GOP, through a combination of active support and silent consent,  have indicated that democratic legitimacy is not a shared assumption, and in early 2024, Brett Baer will ask all of the primary candidates if the 2020 election was stolen, and they will all say yes. 
There is a narrow path out of this crisis and I will outline my thoughts on what that is on a different thread at some point. But at this point, regardless of the outcome of the election, America is in a full blown political crisis and the probability of violence and political collapse is higher than it has been in 155 years. 

I would like to sign up for your newsletter because I am lost as to what this path potentially is. I thought - gasp - the traditional concepts of a foreign enemy, war or something of the like could provide some unity. Just had a chance with a pandemic and that was a muffed punt inside the 10. 

I would say aliens but who knows now honestly. 

@Anastasis is just piloting the Death Spiral. He's not wrong but of course with that comes no right either. 

Seriously how - Chinese alien pederasts? I got no clue. 

Hope you and your family are safe my friend

 

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9 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Her stated evidence is the absence of mistake. Seriously. This simulation has been set to clown for a while 

 

Simulation about to inject a Statute of Frauds defense cuz of the Social Contract.

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15 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Could be wrong but I don't think the meta data proves who wrote it. Powell could have sent it to this other chick to file it, for example. 

Very true.  She's like a 40 year lawyer.  A lot of aged lawyers would consider drafting a complaint somewhat beneath them, though.  Solo/small firm types are a little less prideful on that type of stuff.

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3 hours ago, staboner said:

@Anastasis is just piloting the Death Spiral. He's not wrong but of course with that comes no right either. 

There is no piloting really involved.  The course just is what it is. Oceans rise, empires fall. The cycle plays out. It's arrogant to think that this turns out any other way.

I mean it maybe could, but we are not really capable of liberty.  

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

There is no piloting really involved.  The course just is what it is. Oceans rise, empires fall. The cycle plays out. It's arrogant to think that this turns out any other way.

I mean it maybe could, but we are not really capable of liberty.  

I don't think an inability to self-govern is actually our root problem. Our political dysfunction is just a manifestation of a cultural one.

We simply can't be the America that our education system tells us we used to be. American liberals are largely rejecting the American identity altogether, and while Trumpists cling to it with a desperate but futile zeal, they don't really understand it as anything more than a costume to put on. Very few people are actually stopping to look at the real problem, which is that we've grown up consuming massive amounts of passive entertainment, fast food, and entitlement -- and so none of us really knows how to keep the American machine that we inherited running anymore.

I'm an optimist, though. I like to think there's a way through this mess that doesn't lead to our ruin, if we keep looking for it.

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

There is no piloting really involved.  The course just is what it is. Oceans rise, empires fall. The cycle plays out. It's arrogant to think that this turns out any other way.

I mean it maybe could, but we are not really capable of liberty.  

Bullshit.

Go to sleep if you must.

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8 minutes ago, ndawg said:

I don't think an inability to self-govern is actually our root problem. Our political dysfunction is just a manifestation of a cultural one.

We simply can't be the America that our education system tells us we used to be. American liberals are largely rejecting the American identity altogether, and while Trumpists cling to it with a desperate but futile zeal, they don't really understand it as anything more than a costume to put on. Very few people are actually stopping to look at the real problem, which is that we've grown up consuming massive amounts of passive entertainment, fast food, and entitlement -- and so none of us really knows how to keep the American machine that we inherited running anymore.

I'm an optimist, though. I like to think there's a way through this mess that doesn't lead to our ruin, if we keep looking for it.

100% agree up until that optimism bit. 
 

But happy thanksgiving.

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4 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

Could be wrong but I don't think the meta data proves who wrote it. Powell could have sent it to this other chick to file it, for example. 

The other chick is a lawyer in HUD.  Why would she be filing for Sidney Powell, in a case involving state Republicans supposedly giving an election to Biden?

 

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35 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The other chick is a lawyer in HUD.  Why would she be filing for Sidney Powell, in a case involving state Republicans supposedly giving an election to Biden?

 

We don't know that she's still in government employment.  That could have changed recently.

Her listing in the signature block is with Powell/Powell's firm.

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

We don't know that she's still in government employment.  That could have changed recently.

Her listing in the signature block is with Powell/Powell's firm.

That makes sense.

Well, I'd think some lawyer that made it into the Trump administration would be doing better than Powell's firm, but bills don't pay themselves.

Somebody gave no fucks about that filing though, based on the fact that the typos started so early in it.

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15 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

The idea that voting for him because he was an outsider (which in itself was a bullshit item) was and still is analogous to eschewing Tide in favor of oatmeal and Coca Cola for your laundry because “they’re outsiders!!!” It was fucking stupid before one thought of it, it was stupid in real time, it’s stupid now, and it will always be considered stupid by any serious person. 

Trump only wins in 2016 cause the two party system forced juxtaposition of this narcissist clown with the alternative. Everyone capable of taking a step back can recognize how fucking stupid the entire political scenario of the last decade has been. 

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2 party, 3 party, 12 parties don’t matter.  The people voting do.   Our idiot electorate voted for him in a primary and then again in the general.  That’s not a system problem it is a voter problem. 
 

A third party doesn’t fix that, IMO.  Any third party is drawing from the same pool of politicians and is going to rely on the same electorate to gain power.  

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Presumably this Eshelman cat is of above average intelligence. He has a doctorate in pharmacy and started a a business (PPD) which he grew to a  multi-billion dollar enterprise with 25,000 employees. Yet he got fleeced like the rest of them. What the fuck happened to these people's brains? I'll never understand it. 

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A major contributor to a group backing President Donald Trump’s fight to overturn the presidential election sued to recover $2.5 million in donations after the campaign failed in several court cases and was unable to prove any fraud.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas by North Carolina venture capitalist Fred Eshelman argued that the nonprofit group True the Vote promised to keep him informed of how his millions were being used in what was pitched as a strong case against alleged election fraud. Instead, the suit alleged, he was fed “vague responses, platitudes and empty promises of follow-up” that never occurred.

He was kept in the dark when weak cases filed in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania were voluntarily withdrawn in a decision the investor claimed was made in “concert with counsel for the Trump campaign,” the suit said.

In the Wisconsin case, Republican powerhouse attorney James Bopp promised that “evidence will be shortly forthcoming.” But Bopp withdrew the case last week just hours before scheduled oral arguments without ever providing a shred of evidence. Bopp won the the infamous Citizens United case before the U.S. Supreme Court, which opened the floodgates of dark money into campaigns.

A fed-up Eshelman last week ordered True the Vote in an email to immediately wire back his contribution. When the organization failed to comply, he filed the lawsuit.

Eshelman is a major Trump backer who has twice donated the maximum allowable individual contribution of $2,700 to Trump’s campaign, as well as a $100,000 contribution to the Trump Victory PAC, according to records.

HuffPost could not immediately reach True the Vote, the only plaintiff named in the suit.

Trump has refused to concede the presidential election and continues to complain about massive voter fraud without any evidence to support his allegations. He again claimed in remarks at the White House Thursday, “There was massive fraud.”

 

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