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Good, the harder and longer he decides to campaign (with some goading by Democrats along the way)...the more exhausted he'll get.  He has enormous amounts of pressure on him to keep fundraising to keep his "enterprise" and "legal battles" on life-support.  

There is a path here, in the next 24 months, where we can get him to run his obese 78 year old ass into an early grave.  But the tease is the key.  He's gotta run himself ragged.  Nobody, not even triathlete healthy 40-something Obama could pull off a 50-state/24-month campaign.  Plus you add in Trump's felony cloud over his head...there's a better than 50% chance he dies before the 2024 general election.  His schedule as president was more kind, plus he was 6-8 years younger with better medical care.  Meantime, his Civil War with the GOP is gonna be fun and probably that "battle" will be the only thing that gets him outta bed in the morning, because everything else is gonna make him get outta his grave in the morning.  

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:


Correct.

 

 

 

 

Da fuq? If a red wave was coming because of school closures, it would have come in 2020 during the height of Covid hysteria.

Who the hell is still talking about school closures? Certainly not R politicians.

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Oh I thought this was about kitty litter in schools.

God damn did Heidi Ganahal get her ass kicked by Polis.  What a dumb cunt, acting like that was an actual issue people cared about or thought about. 

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26 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I’m wondering if Ds doing a little better than they thought makes them realize 24 is there for the taking. But Ds need some changes

- Pelosi needs to retire

- Make Abrams something within the party as she’s good at getting people to get out and vote

- make Fetterman’s social media team the Ds national social media team

- Punch boebert in the tits

- what else…?

Do another redistrict in NY, ala Texas in 2003. There’s gotta be a way to blue up the congressional delegation that will pass judicial muster. 

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1 minute ago, TexEx15 said:

First time hearing him speak. Man give me folks like him and Pete as the future of the Democratic Party.

Shapiro
Fetterman
Warnock if he wins
Ossoff
Harris
Pete
Whitmer
Newsom
Polis

The future is bright and diverse!  Jewish, black, female, gay.

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

Do another redistrict in NY, ala Texas in 2003. There’s gotta be a way to blue up the congressional delegation that will pass judicial muster. 

And who is going to make that happen? 

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2 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

First time hearing him speak. Man give me folks like him and Pete as the future of the Democratic Party.

Yes, please.

The icing on the cake would be getting to witness the Deep South's reaction to being ruled by a Jew and a homosexual who are smarter than them for 4 to 8 years.

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I've got  a nutty co-worker who insists that if Trump isn't the guy in 2024 he will never vote for a rebuplican again for any office. It's probably not true, but he's pretty vehement that if they move on from Trump he's moving on  with them. There's a lot of similar people out there. 

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9 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

The Cowherd take is really stupid because that was already largely litigated in the 2020 elections and COVID is basically a non issue for voters at this point.

It also wasn’t entirely about the kids. There were indications that it wasn’t too bad for kids who caught it, but it was still super contagious, and the bigger issue was teachers catching it (they'd have to close anyway if all the teachers and staff are sick and it is in fact more dangerous for adults) and kids spreading it and taking it home to their parents and grandparents etc. I still cannot understand how hospital capacity always gets ignored. That was the biggest need for shutdowns, hospital workers couldn’t keep up and we’re also suffering depression and committing suicides. Doesn’t everyone know at least a few doctors or nurses or hospital staff? My sister in law is an ER nurse and almost quit and needed extended therapy from the stress and the idea that nobody in her state gave a single shit about their sufferings.

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I've got  a nutty co-worker who insists that if Trump isn't the guy in 2024 he will never vote for a rebuplican again for any office. It's probably not true, but he's pretty vehement that if they move on from Trump he's moving on  with them. There's a lot of similar people out there. 

This has always been the thing with the Trumpkins. The R path to victory is so razor thin that they need that 10-15% of die hard Trumpkins or they can't win. It's not that there's a ton of them...it's that they have a outsized influence because of the margins. 

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11 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I am disappointed that WI didn't flip but the writing had been on the walls for a while that Barnes wasn't going to win. Johnson is one of the crazier senators and we have to see/listen to him for at least another 6 years now. WI dems failed on this one.


Barnes got blasted with tens of millions of GOP dollars on BLM/Defund the police/cashless bail. With Kenosha and the Waukesha parade that swung enough voters to Johnson. I think Barnes was not the most sensible pick if they wanted to pick up that seat. 

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Just now, Pescado_Rojo said:

This has always been the thing with the Trumpkins. The R path to victory is so razor thin that they need that 10-15% of die hard Trumpkins or they can't win. It's not that there's a ton of them...it's that they have a outsized influence because of the margins. 

The good candidates get pounded in the ass during primaries because of the frothing base.

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A bright spot for Texas Dems -

Other than the very small border counties like Kinney, Val Verde, Terrell and Brewster - they really held their own in the bigger South Texas border counties.

58% in Maverick (+4 over Biden)
60% in Webb (-1 on Biden, pretty on par)
58% in Starr (+6 over Biden)
58.5% in Hidalgo (on par with Biden, +0.5)
54% in Cameron (small dip, -2 from Biden)

Dems hold 3/4 border seats now, with the only loss being TX-15 (53-45 in a  redrawn Trump seat)

The much aligned "HISPANIC RED WAVE" seems mostly confined to Florida.  Arizona, NM, South Texas, NV look to be similar/no change from 2020, where Dems were really hurt by the COVID shutdowns. 

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I don't care if Big Money wants DeSantis. If Trump run he gets the nom. This is the same R primary electorate. Big money wanted anyone but Trump, Oz, or Balduc. They can't wrangle the monster they created. 
Trump not running would be him admitting defeat. It is never ever his fault. 

Yeah. I don’t know how people haven’t learned not to count Trump out. He has an actual cult behind him.
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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

You think Obama broke the brains of 35% of this country?  Fuck. 

And he was only half-black.  These guys are all-the-way Jewish and gay, respectively.

Fuck it, let's do it.  Competent leadership and schadenfreude at the same time.

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Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

So I get why many are crowning him, but is it crazy to think DeSantis's Florida campaign will not work on a national level?  Florida is pretty uniquely positioned to capitalize on the current atmosphere in a way that I'm not sure will translate.  

The dude is weird.  He doesn't like people, he doesn't connect well, he's kind of meek and socially awkward.  

I don't think he will resonate nationally.  He's like a less smarmy but more awkward Ted Cruz. 

Trump resonated energy - Ron is the epitome of LDE in a crowd. 

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3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

So I get why many are crowning him, but is it crazy to think DeSantis's Florida campaign will not work on a national level?  Florida is pretty uniquely positioned to capitalize on the current atmosphere in a way that I'm not sure will translate.  

Nobody would ever go to a DeSantis rally.

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5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

So I get why many are crowning him, but is it crazy to think DeSantis's Florida campaign will not work on a national level?  Florida is pretty uniquely positioned to capitalize on the current atmosphere in a way that I'm not sure will translate.  

i think a big problem he faces is the R brand has been hurt by trump, and the Desantis personal brand is not charismatic to supplement.  net effect is he loses the folks that just love the alpha male trump thing, but not pick up enough of people that were turned off by his (everything) to offset.

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The dude is weird.  He doesn't like people, he doesn't connect well, he's kind of meek and socially awkward.  

I don't think he will resonate nationally.  He's like a less smarmy but more awkward Ted Cruz. 

Trump resonated energy - Ron is the epitome of LDE in a crowd. 

DeSantis is also weirdly anti-business or at least against big business. Picking fights fights with Disney was odd including the one that was under-reported where he was unhappy that Disney was transferring high paying creative jobs from CA. 

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Just now, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

i think a big problem he faces is the R brand has been hurt by trump, and the Desantis personal brand is not charismatic to supplement.  net effect is he loses the folks that just love the alpha male trump thing, but not pick up enough of people that were turned off by his (everything) to offset.

... which is effectively what Lindsay Graham et al were talking about in 2015 when they said if we nominate trump, we will get beat and we will deserve it.  he was wrong about the timing, but the big picture he saw.

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3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The dude is weird.  He doesn't like people, he doesn't connect well, he's kind of meek and socially awkward.  

I don't think he will resonate nationally.  He's like a less smarmy but more awkward Ted Cruz. 

Trump resonated energy - Ron is the epitome of LDE in a crowd. 

That "God made a fighter" horseshit plays to way more of this country than we like to admit. He doesn't need to connect...he just needs to own libs in tightly-worded social media posts and scripted commercials. That's all that matters.

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2 hours ago, Homercles said:

Not relevant to most but man was I glad to wake to seeing the One Family lunatics roundly rejected (like prior restraint, Walter) here for RRISD board membership.  I’ve posted before about my idiot neighbor and his big sign, canvassing the neighborhood and handing out flyers.  Fuck that ‘ABC’s and 123’s not CRT or LGBT’ nonsense.  
 

We teach our children it’s ok to like who you like, that it’s ok for people to marry other boys/girls as they see fit, and to love people for their character not their appearance.  
 

Is it bad to teach your kids to maybe love some people more because of their appearance?

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50 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Yes, but how "lucky" were he that he's a fucking idiot who surrounded himself with other fucking idiots?

Desantis will be in the keep and consolidate power business.

true, but consider that next time he'd be practiced and already have vetted his sycophants.  no more tillerson, no more sessions, no more clark, no more (whatever the number 2 at the AG name was starts with an R), no more bolton, no more anyone that had any control of any reins.  it'd be michael flynns and matthew whitakers and stephen millers top to bottom.

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2 hours ago, Homercles said:

Not relevant to most but man was I glad to wake to seeing the One Family lunatics roundly rejected (like prior restraint, Walter) here for RRISD board membership.  I’ve posted before about my idiot neighbor and his big sign, canvassing the neighborhood and handing out flyers.  Fuck that ‘ABC’s and 123’s not CRT or LGBT’ nonsense.  
 

We teach our children it’s ok to like who you like, that it’s ok for people to marry other boys/girls as they see fit, and to love people for their character not their appearance.  

Looks like one of the 4 "conservative package" members running for Leander ISD made it through (Gauthier), but thankfully not too much dumbshit creep into the school boards here in the Austin burbs.

Three of four Leander ISD incumbent trustees win re-election, Francesca Romans elected to open seat | Community Impact

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I’m heartened by the results.  This country needs some conservative policy influencing its direction.  Just not conservative policy laced with racism, anti-semitism, sexism, nationalism, authoritarianism and all the other poisons that come with Trump.  People on the left wanting Trump to be the nominee at the risk of that being cemented in place because it might help their side are no better than people on the right using him to get the Supreme Court and Roe v Wade overturned. 

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

So, all of this gruntles the hell out of me.  Yay, sanity!

However, I've got two concerns now, and I'm sure they've occurred to many of you as well:

1. The election rigging shit is about to go into overdrive and probably some people are going to get hurt.

2. The apparent rejection of Trump leaves a power vacuum and the people who created Trumpism are going to fill it, with what monster now...?

Unless Trump is on the ballot, I don’t think they’ll be able to get the Trumpanzees out to vote in the numbers they need, and he’ll, even with Trump on the ballot, they couldn’t do it.   

Back in 2008 (against an actual Vietnam war hero) and 2012, we elected a Black, Muslim, atheist, socialist, Marxist, communist, Democratic community organizer living in Chicago, born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia and then Hawaii, by the name of Barrack Hussein Obama.

More than a few of the people who helped Trump win simply didn’t give enough of a shit in 2008 and 2012 to vote, and then when he was on the ballot again in ‘20, he helped motivate Dems to get out.

It’ll be DeSantis.  Cruz, Abbott, etc. all look pretty weak compared to him - more than a few people saw that Abbott was trying to pretend to be the kind of governor that DeSantis is.

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52 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

First time hearing him speak. Man give me folks like him and Pete as the future of the Democratic Party.

I've mentioned this before, but he was on the radio a lot in Philly during the days following the 2020 election and I though, "Fuck, this dude is smart." 

Turns out the Fetterman/Shapiro candidacies were already in the works.  

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