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I know Jim's a piece of shit, pedophile-enabler but he's actually not the legal dumbass some make him out to be.  He knows he can't legally do this, but he's doing it to raise money and solidify his position among the MAGA base.  And it'll work.  Trouble is, Bragg called his bluff and can now get him to admit during discovery that Jim knows he can't do this.  Now, nobody in MAGA Nation is gonna care about that part because it's legal jargon and they can't even really speak English.  so Jim's Gym Gambit is too delay this until about Autumn 2024 while screaming about it to the red meat base.  If he times it correctly, it could actually work to his benefit.  Won't do shit for Trump, but could help elevate Jim's standing within the party.  Bad news though, is zero fucking precedent for his move so he risks being laughed out of "indictment-land" in two weeks.

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It’s been talked to death here and on Shaggy, but a lot of us who were of age in the 90s developed an image of her and Bill that was….complicated, and not just because of law firm records turning up out of nowhere or capping ex-lovers in a park and making it look like suicide .  
Those were such innocent times compared to Trump.




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No kidding. Sexting and buffoonery and a lack of charisma, plus all the Clinton murders, I’d have traded that in a heartbeat for what we got with trump.

And yes, the media paid that girl for her story, and yes, she spent it on drugs. I haven’t seen her in a minute but I think she is doing better. She doesn’t like me very much because I tried to warn a few close friends to stop putting her pussy on a pedestal.
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On 4/10/2023 at 10:52 AM, NameAlreadyInUse said:

As a former sufferer of Hillary Derangement Syndrome myself, this is correct.  A whole bunch of us let 30 years of propaganda, which really got started because she had the audacity to sit on a committee to try to reform healthcare, taint our impression of her.  Thanks Rush/Fox/et al.

 

 

If the Republican Hate Machine fooled smart people like Twice and others on this board, imagine what it did to all the olds and the stupids.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

See, this is bad journalism. JJ didn't say his committee may be indicting Bragg, he said they may be indicating Bragg.

 

 

And it’s well established that you can indicate anything you see 

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41 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

 

If the Republican Hate Machine fooled smart people like Twice and others on this board, imagine what it did to all the olds and the stupids.

 

 

Think about how dumb Twice is and realize half the population is dumber than that

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On 4/10/2023 at 8:55 PM, TwiceHorn said:

I admitted some latent misogyny.  But Liz has great ideas and apparently is a rotten politician, because her campaign sucked shit and was full of unforced errors.  It was worse that Hillary's.  I didn't realize this until she actually started her campaign, until then I was hoping she'd win the nom, and I would have voted for her had her own blunders not taken her out of the primary.

I have no objection to a woman as president.  I think I'd like Liz Warren as president, still.

My dislike of Hillary is quite a bit more nuanced than appears here and i'll leave it at that.

I have no question that Hillary is quite bright and an accomplished scholar.  Which leads me to believe she should have had a more significant career than adjunct to Bill's.

 

What were Warren's errors? She was and remains my favorite candidate from that race although there a few other good ones as well.  John Inslee seems terrific as does Buttigieg. If we were a more open minded and fair electorate, all of those guys would have had good chances against Trump. But we're not.

After the election (I happily voted for Biden whom I've always liked), I could see more clearly why any of those people would have been crushed. We're not a meritocracy. We don't read. We do not apply much in the way of critical thought. It's a horse race not a considered political decision. Biden was by far the better horse even if others were better candidates.

All that said, I don't recall Warren making fatal errors. In the eyes of much of our adolescent-esque insecure teenage boy electorate, women and gays are soft. They probably don't love guns. They're surely not real Christians or they'd be GOPs.

I'll take your word that your Hillary dislike is nuanced. That would be rare. I think she's caught more hate-engine propaganda than anyone. She's a brilliant woman who cares about the world and her country. I don't think she's a great choice for elective politics. Her best career would have been shining in an ascent through appointed roles.

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On 4/10/2023 at 11:42 PM, Mdhorn said:

Newt was having an affair on his dying wife

Probably literally with that POS. "Don't worry, she's drugged and won't know we're here. Get on the bed. No, right on top of her."

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7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

That's one way to kick the can down the road. He can just stack indictment upon lawsuit upon indictment upon lawsuit in perpetuity and just argue that there's too much publicity. It's definitely a strategy.

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6 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

She's a brilliant woman who cares about the world and her country. 

And there's the problem in one sentence.

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17 hours ago, YGIFS said:

he's actually not the legal dumbass some make him out to be.  He knows he can't legally do this, but he's doing it to raise money and solidify his position among the MAGA base.  And it'll work.

This is hardly relevatory, my friend. His whole party and cult leader have been operatind as a criminal organzation for years and years. There's nothing subtle about it anymore; it's right in the open. And, yes, it will work. 

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22 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

If you have a privilege, or a valid reason not to testify to Congress, this is how you do it.

Get em, Bragg.

I think you nabobs are going to see some good legal work frustrating Gym and his idiot mob.

Looky, looky here, Alvin Bragg using the Mazars case and asserting privileges against Gym Jordan.  https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23772947/read-alvin-braggs-lawsuit-against-house-judiciary-chairman-jim-jordan-over-trump-probe-interference.pdf

Second, even if Chairman Jordan and the Committee were able to demonstrate a valid legislative purpose and withstand the Mazars test (they cannot), the subpoena still would not be enforceable because it could allow the Committee to seek secret grand jury material, confidential investigative material, and information clearly protected by the attorney-client, work product, deliberative process, law enforcement, informant’s, and public interest privileges. These privileges exist to protect precisely the type of information Chairman Jordan and the Committee are seeking—confidential law enforcement and legal materials compiled during investigations and in the lead-up to a prosecution. The privileges are designed to prevent the type of obstruction and interference with ongoing criminal investigations and prosecutions that Chairman Jordan and the Committee’s actions represent.

I'm guessing these privilege assertions aren't "fuck fuck games" anymore, eh @Captainant?  Or does that depend on who asserts them?

Legal arguments are tools, basically.  They can be misused or used by the wrong people, but the tools themselves are neutral, dumb.  The courts pretty reliably sort that out.

ETA:  You all remember the Mazars case, right?  It was SCOTUS creating a new test for the legitimacy of a Congressional subpoena to the executive or another branch of government.  At the time, it resulted in a remand of the case to the lower courts for application of the test, ostensibly giving Trump another chance, which he failed.

But lo, here it is, being used by one of the good guys to foil one of the bad guys.  That's kind of how this shit works.

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16 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

What were Warren's errors? She was and remains my favorite candidate from that race although there a few other good ones as well.  John Inslee seems terrific as does Buttigieg. If we were a more open minded and fair electorate, all of those guys would have had good chances against Trump. But we're not.

After the election (I happily voted for Biden whom I've always liked), I could see more clearly why any of those people would have been crushed. We're not a meritocracy. We don't read. We do not apply much in the way of critical thought. It's a horse race not a considered political decision. Biden was by far the better horse even if others were better candidates.

All that said, I don't recall Warren making fatal errors. In the eyes of much of our adolescent-esque insecure teenage boy electorate, women and gays are soft. They probably don't love guns. They're surely not real Christians or they'd be GOPs.

I'll take your word that your Hillary dislike is nuanced. That would be rare. I think she's caught more hate-engine propaganda than anyone. She's a brilliant woman who cares about the world and her country. I don't think she's a great choice for elective politics. Her best career would have been shining in an ascent through appointed roles.

Things that were pointed out by the politically astute, such as JS1.  I don't recall exactly and I wasn't following her every move.  But I was told by those here whose opinions I value on such matters that she blundered her campaign pretty badly.  And, it may not have made any difference, she may just not have had the national profile she needed.

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30 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Speculation, but hopefully educated and informed speculation that resembles the truth.

If so, this is beautiful.  Pretty clear federal felony crimes that relate directly to Trump's childish use of power.  Assuming the map is "real classified" information (as opposed to over-classified), and it probably would be or lil Donnie Dotard wouldnt' be showing it off, he's falling pretty squarely in violation of 18 USC 793 in addition to the obstruction charges.

Get em, Jack.

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this dickhead has been so terrible for so long and I don't care to look it up, but anyone else remember when we were rushing to get our spies and other undercover operatives back to safe space after it was learned that tfg had mishandled classified docs and in some cases accidentally revealed their identities or locations? I can't even remember if that was when he was in office or after. anyway, imagine the damage he has likely done since. what weapons tech has he given away? how compromised is our population along with our allies across the globe? this man has made all of us fundamentally less safe. remains to be seen how serious it is. my guess: as serious as it gets. this truly is THE test of our time. I'm not loving our chances of passing.

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Things that were pointed out by the politically astute, such as JS1.  I don't recall exactly and I wasn't following her every move.  But I was told by those here whose opinions I value on such matters that she blundered her campaign pretty badly.  And, it may not have made any difference, she may just not have had the national profile she needed.

I've not read any campaign after action reports that support campaign blundering, but I do think she couldn't find a lane and felt the "Bern".  Between her, Biden, and Bernie there's only so much Democratic support for old white people and I don't think it's an accident that the candidate most appealing to African American voters (of the three) won the primary.  I think Warren did about as well she could have expected to in this modern, media saturated environment (it's far harder to have a "wow, look at Clinton playing the sax on Arsenio" moment because in 2023 we already know everything there is to know that's interesting about a candidate in the first 48 hours of the campaign). 

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Things that were pointed out by the politically astute, such as JS1.  I don't recall exactly and I wasn't following her every move.  But I was told by those here whose opinions I value on such matters that she blundered her campaign pretty badly.  And, it may not have made any difference, she may just not have had the national profile she needed.

I don’t recall anything I said but I’m sure I was right 

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43 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Pretty clear federal felony crimes that relate directly to Trump's childish use of power. 

I'm just waiting for you next post that tells that since technically he visited Puerto Rico on a Tuesday when a disaster was declared that what he did in Florida wasn't against the law.

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11 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Witness coercion anyone?

Anti-slapp laws broken anyone?

 

Couple more felonies to throw on the fire? Anyone?

 

Bueller?

 


the man is above the law until proven otherwise 

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2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Witness coercion anyone?

Anti-slapp laws broken anyone?

 

Couple more felonies to throw on the fire? Anyone?

 

Bueller?

 

Just a fair warning, 99.9% of the time, filing a shitty lawsuit is not a crime.

For better or worse, this American man, we have the right to file shitty lawsuits.

If they're really shitty we get sanctioned and lawyer maybe disciplined.  This is yet another poor slob drawn into Trump's orbit.

Fairly certain this will be dismissed without prejudice for lack of personal jurisdiction.  It's in the Miami division, away from both Cannon and nemesis Middlebrook.

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But if it's not dismissed with plaintiff paying attorney's costs, I could make a pretty good case that Trump's goal is to intimidate Cohen into silence where Cohen could be a witness against tfg.  Could this not be used as evidence that he's trying to intimidate Cohen as a witness?

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