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5 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

I get where you are coming from. But, "self interest" goes beyond economics, money. and $$$.

 

Yes, they've been bamboozled to vote against their pocketbook through racism and sexism. And if you want to throw in vaxx too, okay. 

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I'm not entirely sure that I know who Jill Stein is. Color me skeptical that any of the undecideds do. Anyone pulling the lever for her is just an Anastasis-level both-sides edgelord who was always going to find someone to dump their protest vote on.

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3 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

I get where you are coming from. But, "self interest" goes beyond economics, money. and $$$.

For MAGA and Fundagelicals, it is in their religious self interest to have the government shove the Bible down everyone's throat, to outlaw abortion, to stop vaxxing, ban books, etc. Bottom line, MAGA is voting their "self-interest" -- their religious self-interest.

And they are ready to shove it down the collective throat of America.

Even if it crashes the economy.

And that’s a huge issue, thanks to dogma.  Not only will these people not have their minds changed, unless by church leadership that manages to have a different interpretation gain popularity instead of excommunication, but they will not stop trying as they are convinced of a mandate from god. 

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I'd like to take Eva Green out to a nice dinner at Chili's. 

 

Potato skins?

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From the Atlantic article:

At the end of June, in the afterglow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Donald Trump startled his aides by announcing that he’d come up with a new nickname for his opponent.

“The guy’s a retard. He’s retarded. I think that’s what I’ll start calling him,” Trump declared aboard his campaign plane, en route to a rally that evening, according to three people who heard him make the remarks: “Retarded Joe Biden.”

The staffers present—and, within hours, others who’d heard about the epithet secondhand—pleaded with Trump not to say this publicly. They warned him that it would antagonize the moderate voters who’d been breaking in their direction, while engendering sympathy for a politician who, at that moment, was the subject of widespread ridicule. As Trump demurred, musing that he might debut the nickname at that night’s event, his staffers puzzled over the timing. Biden was on the ropes. Polls showed Trump jumping out to the biggest lead he’d enjoyed in any of his three campaigns for the presidency. Everything was going right for the Republican Party and its nominee. Why would he jeopardize that for the sake of slinging a juvenile insult? (A campaign spokesperson, Steven Cheung, said the nickname “was never discussed and this is materially false.”)

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Do you know who Kenneth Follett is? He wrote one of the best spy thrillers ever, called Eye of the Needle, but then he started writing sweeping historical novels about England. One called Winter of the World (book 2 of a trilogy dealing with the 20th century) examines in detail the rise of fascism in Germany, along with the (narrowly) defeated attempt to bring fascists into power in England. In both cases, there were people of different income levels, some really really smart, who were generally good people. Many were close friends, and even family members. 
 

And they went on to commit some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen

It’s a quick read, and can be read as a standalone, although the first book in the trilogy is fantastic as well. You should read it to get an idea of how this could get really bad really quickly with a Trump win

Good post. He also wrote a book called “A Place Called Freedom” and features a scene involving the payment of “Arles,” which in this case involved the laird of a Scottish coal mine giving a few shillings to the family of an infant at their Baptism and then they swear their child’s labor, life and soul to service of the laird. This was a practice that persisted in the UK from the Middle Ages into the early 1900’s. 
 

In real life a lot of those scots miners came to America and went to work mining coal in Appalachia, and brought the mentality of bound servitude with them, which persists today. 

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Nope, own it mofos. 
 

 

 

they're disgusted because the ss trump is sinking 

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this group also had had a case of remorse, after getting their asses kicked 

 

 

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These are thoughts of the "Undecideds" ....

"I can't decide how to justify my vote for Trump 'cause I know he's is a lying piece of shit ..... and Kamala seems smart and capable ....

but deep down I feel I can't trust any woman of color president...

don't want browns swarming into America and taking jobs...

don't want gays walking around grooming my kid...

don't want to sacrifice jobs to protect the environment...

don't want socialized health-care...

and want to do what my preacher says it right by the Bible...

Guess I gotta vote Trump. Even though Kamala is smart and talented and seems nice."

99% of the "Undecideds" are full-of-crap BS artists and doublethinking fascist enablers.

It's absurd that the media can't see this and then treats them like some kind of super-intellectuals about the election.

 

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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

From the Atlantic article:

At the end of June, in the afterglow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Donald Trump startled his aides by announcing that he’d come up with a new nickname for his opponent.

“The guy’s a retard. He’s retarded. I think that’s what I’ll start calling him,” Trump declared aboard his campaign plane, en route to a rally that evening, according to three people who heard him make the remarks: “Retarded Joe Biden.”

The staffers present—and, within hours, others who’d heard about the epithet secondhand—pleaded with Trump not to say this publicly. They warned him that it would antagonize the moderate voters who’d been breaking in their direction, while engendering sympathy for a politician who, at that moment, was the subject of widespread ridicule. As Trump demurred, musing that he might debut the nickname at that night’s event, his staffers puzzled over the timing. Biden was on the ropes. Polls showed Trump jumping out to the biggest lead he’d enjoyed in any of his three campaigns for the presidency. Everything was going right for the Republican Party and its nominee. Why would he jeopardize that for the sake of slinging a juvenile insult? (A campaign spokesperson, Steven Cheung, said the nickname “was never discussed and this is materially false.”)

I'm not sure I ever really thought about the things he would have said over the years if left solely to his own devices. We probably would have gotten some racial slurs directed at Harris by now.

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I'm not sure I ever really thought about the things he would have said over the years if left solely to his own devices. We probably would have gotten some racial slurs directed at Harris by now.

 

There's still time.

 

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9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

I am shocked that there are so many men completely oblivious to the fact their wives don't agree with them about everything, but pick and choose what's worth the argument/tension.

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11 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

 

 

*Gauloises

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And coup de grace. For l'amour de dieu, it's "koo duh grahSSS," not "koo duh grAH." You say koo duh grah it means you whacked somebody with a slab of fat. Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time.

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1 hour ago, BevoAbyss said:

This is a classic example of doublethink. Orwell's brilliant insight: Believing that two opposite propositions are both true at the same time, or claiming a surface issue is true ... to mask what you know is the deeper issue of truth.)

Says 90% of MAGA it is not about racism, then lists tons of racist examples.  Consider last two paragraphs.

-- Mentions Army person in Iraq. Ignores that War in Iraq was racist and religious war.

-- Vote Hard R to handle the Hispanics (obviously through deportation, though not mentioned)

-- The entire gated community armed to the teeth is premised in racism.

Dude: Think deeper and more clearly. It's good for ya.

MAGA supporters are full-on racists. 

Tell my white brother and Puerto Rican SIL they are racist for voting for Trump.   I just call them stupid.  

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16 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I am shocked that there are so many men completely oblivious to the fact their wives don't agree with them about everything, but pick and choose what's worth the argument/tension.

Wives don't tell their husbands about their shopping habits, so yeah, they'll like about who they vote for.

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2 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Living Wage legislation based on a 40 hour work week and CPI seems like it would reduce wealth disparity.

Well, the conservative in me is going to disagree. I think bargained-for wages and benefits are a better outcome, but giving labor collective bargaining and strike ability is essential to that.  And government needs to be involved to insure that the bigger picture is kept in mind in addition to the narrow interests of the parties to the negotiation.

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18 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Good article.  I'm generally dubious of reporting that offers no more details of sourcing than "...conversations with nearly a dozen of the former president’s aides, advisers, and friends".  However, in this case I'm not too bothered because the primary source for all of this dirt is easily identified.  Chris LaCivita.  There's zero doubt in my mind.  I can't wait for the book next year.

That whole thing is just a grifting ladder. Trump grifting the American idiots. LaCivita and Wiles grifting trump for allegedly over $22 million by LaCivita alone. All the minions under them running their own little grifts on trump's campaign money. Insane hangers on like Loomer and Lewandowski trying everything to get in on the grift 

"You gotta know that a guy who helps you steal, even if you take care of him real well, he's gonna steal a little extra for himself."

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31 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Wives lie to their husbands about the guys they slept with and their shopping habits among other things so yeah, who they vote for is a pretty small lie. 

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7 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

If I had a nickel for every time I freed swimmers to Laetitia Casta back in the day, I could fund a Super Pac myself.

she is certainly not doing anything to stop you from continuing to do so today...

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and to make this appropriately relevant to this thread, laetitia's enduring beauty would probably most be paralleled in french literature by victor hugo's use of Lucrèce Borgia in the play of the same name. while based on historical elements of her life, hugo definitely gives her an enduring and ageless physical beauty that is comparable to laetitia.

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11 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I find myself in much a similar boat, though I've never been one to hero worship, which seems to be an issue for lots of people.  As a shareholder, I honestly hope he gets deported and divested.  I bought in early because I liked the general vision and agreed the auto industry was ripe for a shake up, that has been good to me.  I've stuck with it because I've seen demonstrable results, both in product and profit, often times in spite of his childishness and kooky ideas. However, I never intended to hitch my wagon to a radicalized psychopath.  Divesting from it now would almost seem like letting him win.  Also, while I don't believe in him at all with anything, I do believe the company has the stand alone talent and capability of delivering.  

Just for the record, even though I know it's good for me, I am absolutely floored anyone drives that abortion of a truck, and yet every day, I see more of them.   I'm not sure what shocks me more, just how fucking stupid it looks or the fact that some idiot paid 100+k for it.  

I bought McDonalds stock years ago for a similar reason. Actually no. I bought it because people with sticky kids will keep going there. Now I'm living off the fat of the land.

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22 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Good post. He also wrote a book called “A Place Called Freedom” and features a scene involving the payment of “Arles,” which in this case involved the laird of a Scottish coal mine giving a few shillings to the family of an infant at their Baptism and then they swear their child’s labor, life and soul to service of the laird. This was a practice that persisted in the UK from the Middle Ages into the early 1900’s. 
 

In real life a lot of those scots miners came to America and went to work mining coal in Appalachia, and brought the mentality of bound servitude with them, which persists today. 

Yes great book. I would argue many / most brought a sense of defiant independence from centuries of fending off the various iterations of “the English” as Danes and the like. They had a medieval, ruthless ass whipping mentality, which some scholars point to as a big reason the US entry into WWII was so successful

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Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

"...big, black, boogie, fakin', shakin', shuckin' and jivin' jobs..."

 

little black bootys ???

im hiring !

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3 hours ago, kevwun said:

Yeah half the shows on espn have copied the format of 4 or 5 people talking over each other about whatever topic they have blown completely out of proportion that day.

I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure ESPN pioneered that shit, the way MTV popularized 'reality' tv. Fuck 'em both.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, the conservative in me is going to disagree. I think bargained-for wages and benefits are a better outcome, but giving labor collective bargaining and strike ability is essential to that.  And government needs to be involved to insure that the bigger picture is kept in mind in addition to the narrow interests of the parties to the negotiation.

They aren't mutually exclusive though.

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1 minute ago, wood said:

I could be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure ESPN pioneered that shit, the way MTV popularized 'reality' tv. Fuck 'em both.

 

they changed the world forever ….

 

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23 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

the black jobs !!!!

I like how even Trump realized that he worded that terribly and tried to correct but only made it worse.

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9 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Wives lie to their husbands about the guys they slept with and their shopping habits among other things so yeah, who they vote for is a pretty small lie. 

There's a yougov poll - 1 in 8 wives say they have in the past lied to their husband about who they voted for or without telling them, and 1 in 10 husbands do the same.  

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41 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

From the Atlantic article:

At the end of June, in the afterglow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Donald Trump startled his aides by announcing that he’d come up with a new nickname for his opponent.

“The guy’s a retard. He’s retarded. I think that’s what I’ll start calling him,” Trump declared aboard his campaign plane, en route to a rally that evening, according to three people who heard him make the remarks: “Retarded Joe Biden.”

The staffers present—and, within hours, others who’d heard about the epithet secondhand—pleaded with Trump not to say this publicly. They warned him that it would antagonize the moderate voters who’d been breaking in their direction, while engendering sympathy for a politician who, at that moment, was the subject of widespread ridicule. As Trump demurred, musing that he might debut the nickname at that night’s event, his staffers puzzled over the timing. Biden was on the ropes. Polls showed Trump jumping out to the biggest lead he’d enjoyed in any of his three campaigns for the presidency. Everything was going right for the Republican Party and its nominee. Why would he jeopardize that for the sake of slinging a juvenile insult? (A campaign spokesperson, Steven Cheung, said the nickname “was never discussed and this is materially false.”)

He turned a mob loose on the Capitol.

He stole and distributed state secrets.

He pressured a foreign leader to help him defame a political opponent.

He is a constant liar.

He is an idiot.

But if he says "retard" it's all over for him.

 

Idiot World

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