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15 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

Bro, my anxiety is at 11.  I'm like 48/52 on this thing going the right way.  I think it *should* be okay, but I can't shake a bad feeling.

Let's be wrong together...

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I know that mainstream media has a self imposed rule to not release exit polls until after the polls close for a state. Or at least I assume it’s a self imposed rule. Is there anything stopping them or anyone from releasing exit polls early?

the concept seems tied to not wanting to influence the vote but they constantly release poll after poll leading up to Election Day which influences votes. I don’t see any difference.

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Just now, chainsaw said:

I can't believe how many people in my personal social circle wait until Election Day to vote. I just don't get it.

I'm usually a go on Election Day person. Our local polling place is always light. I only early voted this year because my wife wasn't working from home today so we went last Friday. 

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Just now, chainsaw said:

I can't believe how many people in my personal social circle wait until Election Day to vote. I just don't get it.

Same here. My 70-year-old dad does it, it's time to have the Jimmy Carter talk with him for the next election. 

"If you die between the first day of early voting and election day that would suck."

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Totally this for me.

I have felt like I want to puke all day so far, and it will only get worse.

I love my country.  I love it so much it hurts. It has given my family opportunity for generations.  It has been a place that is and always has been wildly imperfect yet, somehow, has found a way to improve over time.  As they say, "reformed, but always reforming."  We are a good country, and we have tried over time to become a great one.  It is a process, but one that - for most of my life - I believed we continued to move towards.  Yes, with failures, yes, with missteps, but overall heading in the right historical direction.

The past 15+ years have caused me to doubt that (Obama's election revealed how awful a huge swath of our country and fellow citizens are, and it has only gotten MUCH worse).  

I truly don't know who "we the people" are anymore.  I don't believe, like I once did, that we can and will find ways to be better.

I want to hope that we will.  But hope, in these times, is a precursor to disappointment.  And we've had a cascade of disappointments, shocking ones.  To my dying day, I will never forget those moments on January 6th when, driving through nowhere W. Texas, I heard them announce that the insurrectionists had broken through and were inside the Capitol.  As our phones started blowing up from friends all over the world asking us "WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?"

I want to believe that we can be the nation I knew and believed in most of my life.  But I also know that we are the nation that had January 6th, and might have another one of those.

This feeling is like being in crisis with someone you deeply love.  Will she go off the deep end, turning her back on all the things that made her good, and leading you to the inevitable conclusion of "she's gone....this relationship isn't worth saving?"  Or will she find her way to reaffirm the best of who she is and can be, so you think "there she is....the person I love is still there?"  I feel like I would if I was sitting in my living room, waiting for her answer.  And yeah, I wanna puke.

I love her.  And she's been breaking my fucking heart.

Relax man. Smell the flowers. There will still be a need for lawyers.

We the people are historically a strong nation full of dumbasses. When you think things are getting better, we are shown the truth. but somehow we muddle along. Are we the beacon on the hill we want to believe we are? Probably not. Were we? Probably not.

 

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1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Bro, my anxiety is at 11.  I'm like 48/52 on this thing going the right way.  I think it *should* be okay, but I can't shake a bad feeling.

Let's be wrong together...

You are gonna freak out when early results look Trumpy.

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2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I can't believe how many people in my personal social circle wait until Election Day to vote. I just don't get it.

This is the first time I early voted. Growing up it was an event. People went and voted and someone had a potluck where you watched results.

I miss that.

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39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Philly vote tracker says they are at 70% of 2020

E-Day vote in Clark looks like 33/33/33.  It was 50% R in 2020.  They definitely cannibalized their E-Day vote.  

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2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

No shit.  Russia openly supports Trump and wants him to win.

Again, Trump voters KNOW that an enemy state that hates our country and wants us to falter SUPPORTS TRUMP....and they still side with him.  It's as fucking insane as a Longhorn fan agreeing with an Aggy fan who says "oh, y'all should totally start Brisketexan as QB when y'all play aggy.  Yeah, a middle aged dude with a noodle arm and a bad knee.....that's how you wanna go."  THEY WANT US TO SUCK.  AND TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, THEY SUPPORT TRUMP.  THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.

So, I do hate a significant part of this country for being that stupid/hateful.

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19 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

There’s a lot of optimism on this thread.  I wish I felt it too.  I just have this constant nightmare that it’s not happening.  I really hope I’m wrong.

 

I think you’re conflating optimism with anxiety. 

People here want what’s best for America to prosper. I’m now an uncle and my niece turns 1 tomorrow. They live in Texas. I am scared shitless for her future. 

This website knows what’s best for America’s future, and it’s not the White America Only that’s run by men only that team maga wants. 

So no, I don’t know that it’s optimism here rather it’s we are all nervous as fuck and smiling through the nervousness because we don’t know if tomorrow will bring out the “Whites Only” signs at restaurants or we can finally turn the page on the racist, sexist, racist, racist shit era that is maga and trump.

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3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Relax man. Smell the flowers. There will still be a need for lawyers.

We the people are historically a strong nation full of dumbasses. When you think things are getting better, we are shown the truth. but somehow we muddle along. Are we the beacon on the hill we want to believe we are? Probably not. Were we? Probably not.

 

Unfortunately we were and are that beacon whether we like it or not. Now maybe we didn't earn it but I can assure you there are many more foreigners who are watching to see what our results are today than there are for other nation's elections. The only question, the one we're waiting for the answer to, is "a beacon of what?"

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Totally this for me.

I have felt like I want to puke all day so far, and it will only get worse.

I love my country.  I love it so much it hurts. It has given my family opportunity for generations.  It has been a place that is and always has been wildly imperfect yet, somehow, has found a way to improve over time.  As they say, "reformed, but always reforming."  We are a good country, and we have tried over time to become a great one.  It is a process, but one that - for most of my life - I believed we continued to move towards.  Yes, with failures, yes, with missteps, but overall heading in the right historical direction.

The past 15+ years have caused me to doubt that (Obama's election revealed how awful a huge swath of our country and fellow citizens are, and it has only gotten MUCH worse).  

I truly don't know who "we the people" are anymore.  I don't believe, like I once did, that we can and will find ways to be better.

I want to hope that we will.  But hope, in these times, is a precursor to disappointment.  And we've had a cascade of disappointments, shocking ones.  To my dying day, I will never forget those moments on January 6th when, driving through nowhere W. Texas, I heard them announce that the insurrectionists had broken through and were inside the Capitol.  As our phones started blowing up from friends all over the world asking us "WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?"

I want to believe that we can be the nation I knew and believed in most of my life.  But I also know that we are the nation that had January 6th, and might have another one of those.

This feeling is like being in crisis with someone you deeply love.  Will she go off the deep end, turning her back on all the things that made her good, and leading you to the inevitable conclusion of "she's gone....this relationship isn't worth saving?"  Or will she find her way to reaffirm the best of who she is and can be, so you think "there she is....the person I love is still there?"  I feel like I would if I was sitting in my living room, waiting for her answer.  And yeah, I wanna puke.

I love her.  And she's been breaking my fucking heart.

Bravo man

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4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Same here. My 70-year-old dad does it, it's time to have the Jimmy Carter talk with him for the next election. 

"If you die between the first day of early voting and election day that would suck."

My mom is this way. She finds it festive or some shit. Which isn’t the fucking point, but at least she votes (and for the good guys).

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So, I do hate a significant part of this country for being that stupid/hateful.

I felt like I kind of got it in the past. They were mad at those in charge so they support Trump to fuck shit up.

But after January 6th? And many don't just support him as some kind of middle finger, but tons seem to unironically adore him in a way that is only comparable to Obama's biggest fanatics.

So I have nothing anymore. I do have a hard time thinking they are still my countrymen and women and that's sad.

But I try not to think about it.

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20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Cambria County, PA extends voting until 10pm due to technical issues with machines 

Did not understand the possible significance of this until I looked it up.  Cambria county went to Trump in 2020 68% to 31% (around 26k votes) and 67% to 31% in 2016.  

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Allegheny County election official says they expect to have all votes counted by midnight, other Pittsburgh suburb counties targeting 11:00.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No shit.  Russia openly supports Trump and wants him to win.

What's interesting is that they purposely picked a former Trump stronghold to disrupt.  

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Just now, heso said:

Allegheny County election official says they expect to have all votes counted by midnight, other Pittsburgh suburb counties targeting 11:00.

Good. Let's just get it over with. I don't ever want to see a repeat of 2020.

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Unfortunately we were and are that beacon whether we like it or not. Now maybe we didn't earn it but I can assure you there are many more foreigners who are watching to see what our results are today than there are for other nation's elections. The only question, the one we're waiting for the answer to, is "a beacon of what?"

I know. My whatsapp and signal have been going off since midnight. From Kenya to K-stan everyone wants to know what I think is going to happen. There is a major international impact on this election and it is not only Ukraine and the Middle East.

Growing up overseas maybe it is different for me. It was one day every four years the American community got together and looked towards tomorrow. I try to keep that perspective.

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2 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I'm not going to make it to tonight. I don't even really follow politics. I don't want to pay attention to this shit but I feel obligated to. Until the last couple of months, I hadn't posted on this board since the last time we kicked that orange asshole to the curb.

I'm seriously thinking about going home and eating a gummy I bought in Seattle that works like a horse tranquilizer, and spend the afternoon trying to feel the side of my face.

I mean I’m kinda doing the same with the real horse tranquilizer ketamine today. 

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6 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm usually a go on Election Day person. Our local polling place is always light. I only early voted this year because my wife wasn't working from home today so we went last Friday. 

But what if you're sick or injured? That's too much of a risk. It will probably never matter for a presidential or statewide race but it could be the difference between someone competent keeping the lights on vs a clown banning books in your child's schools

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Everyone despairing over a Trump victory (which I still believe will happen) try to relax. Know that basic human nature (incompetence, greed, corrruption) will at least partially derail whatever fucked up plans they have for the country. Always happens for the power-crazed and always will. 

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Just now, boilerhorn said:

Did not understand the possible significance of this until I looked it up.  Cambria county went to Trump in 2020 68% to 31% (around 26k votes) and 67% to 31% in 2016.  

It’s also one of the PA counties that have swung from solidly blue to solidly red in the last 20 years. Apparently it’s been long enough that the people of Johnstown forgot what happens when you trust billionaire robber barons to care if they put your life in danger. 

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1 hour ago, G650 said:

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Listen I'm not hating on the Riva, but this thing has dead sexy lines.  Also rarer than hens teeth.   Maybe I've been watching too much miami vice?  

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Just now, Helobious said:

Everyone despairing over a Trump victory (which I still believe will happen) try to relax. Know that basic human nature (incompetence, greed, corrruption) will at least partially derail whatever fucked up plans they have for the country. Always happens for the power-crazed and always will. 

I am well aware that almost everything Trump promised will not happen, especially anything even remotely unpopular.

The point to me is merely that he is still supported after he tried to commit treason.

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5 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I'm not going to make it to tonight. I don't even really follow politics. I don't want to pay attention to this shit but I feel obligated to. Until the last couple of months, I hadn't posted on this board since the last time we kicked that orange asshole to the curb.

I'm seriously thinking about going home and eating a gummy I bought in Seattle that works like a horse tranquilizer, and spend the afternoon trying to feel the side of my face.

This is an underrated coping mechanism. Unfortunately I have to pick my daughter up from dance at 7. But then it's gummy time. I may even make a bonfire in the solo and just stare at it all night. 

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Totally this for me.

I have felt like I want to puke all day so far, and it will only get worse.

I love my country.  I love it so much it hurts. It has given my family opportunity for generations.  It has been a place that is and always has been wildly imperfect yet, somehow, has found a way to improve over time.  As they say, "reformed, but always reforming."  We are a good country, and we have tried over time to become a great one.  It is a process, but one that - for most of my life - I believed we continued to move towards.  Yes, with failures, yes, with missteps, but overall heading in the right historical direction.

The past 15+ years have caused me to doubt that (Obama's election revealed how awful a huge swath of our country and fellow citizens are, and it has only gotten MUCH worse).  

I truly don't know who "we the people" are anymore.  I don't believe, like I once did, that we can and will find ways to be better.

I want to hope that we will.  But hope, in these times, is a precursor to disappointment.  And we've had a cascade of disappointments, shocking ones.  To my dying day, I will never forget those moments on January 6th when, driving through nowhere W. Texas, I heard them announce that the insurrectionists had broken through and were inside the Capitol.  As our phones started blowing up from friends all over the world asking us "WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?"

I want to believe that we can be the nation I knew and believed in most of my life.  But I also know that we are the nation that had January 6th, and might have another one of those.

This feeling is like being in crisis with someone you deeply love.  Will she go off the deep end, turning her back on all the things that made her good, and leading you to the inevitable conclusion of "she's gone....this relationship isn't worth saving?"  Or will she find her way to reaffirm the best of who she is and can be, so you think "there she is....the person I love is still there?"  I feel like I would if I was sitting in my living room, waiting for her answer.  And yeah, I wanna puke.

I love her.  And she's been breaking my fucking heart.

I have maybe one or two toes out on the ledge with Brisket.  I have a lot of nervous energy today, and am drinking more coffee later in the morning than I usually do.  But it's nervous optimism, and not a sense of dread.  Still, this is 'murica.

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Just now, InkaUtexas said:

I know. My whatsapp and signal have been going off since midnight. From Kenya to K-stan everyone wants to know what I think is going to happen. There is a major international impact on this election and it is not only Ukraine and the Middle East.

Growing up overseas maybe it is different for me. It was one day every four years the American community got together and looked towards tomorrow. I try to keep that perspective.

Yeah, same here.  Much of our chat is in German (which pisses me off, because I have to translate it on google).  Some clips -- and even if you don't speak German, you can get the gist:

Ich bin so krass nervös

Ich glaube nicht dass ich heute nacht schlafen werde…

I am wearing blue today. Ehrlich gesagt fühle ich mich ein bisschen blöd, dass ich noch ein bisschen Hoffnung habe


The whole fucking world is watching to see if we flip the boat over or not.  It's fucking maddening.

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Everyone despairing over a Trump victory (which I still believe will happen) try to relax. Know that basic human nature (incompetence, greed, corrruption) will at least partially derail whatever fucked up plans they have for the country. Always happens for the power-crazed and always will. 

OK cool, I’ll remember that from six feet under after the ACA gets scrapped (three preexisting conditions that are not a result of food/alcohol, nicotine).

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JFC, CNN interviewed a young female voted. She was asked if Trump said anything that offended her. "Well, ya know, you cannot be offended by everything. I watch Family guy and they make fun of everyone, you have to laugh."

OK @Brisketexan make some room on the ledge. This mentality cancelled out a vote.

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4 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I'm seriously thinking about going home and eating a gummy I bought in Seattle that works like a horse tranquilizer, and spend the afternoon trying to feel the side of my face.

Well, you could do that.  Or you could go to Chili's early and get a head start on a Chris Farley death bender of chili cheese fries and mexican martinis.  Take the gummy with you as a coup de grace should Trump win.

I wish I could tell you it will be painless.

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Everyone despairing over a Trump victory (which I still believe will happen) try to relax. Know that basic human nature (incompetence, greed, corrruption) will at least partially derail whatever fucked up plans they have for the country. Always happens for the power-crazed and always will. 

Remind me again, how many people died in World War II?

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