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In Kennett, some residents said they had implored state and national Republican lawmakers representing the area to intervene to stop Ms. Hui's deportation, but had gotten mostly cursory
responses. Kennett's own leaders have not officially weighed in.

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. . . so you see, by taking money away from the useless hippies studying transgender basket making and instead investing in trade schools, the federal government will in fact be increasing the overall pool of trades workers competing against you in the market place which will drive your wages . . .

You know what, never mind.  Trump is gonna own the college libs.

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Good Christian (I bet) that owns his vote. From the article:

“Adam Squires, a onetime candidate for mayor of Kennett, saw it differently. He did not bear any ill will for Ms. Hui, he said, but he voted for Mr. Trump, as did 80 percent of voters in Dunklin County, and he was glad to see the deportation campaign reach home.
“They vote for Trump, and then they get mad because the stuff starts happening,” he said of his neighbors. “We’ve got to get rid of all the illegals. This is just a start.”

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3 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Target is being boycotted because they immediately announced a rollback of their DEI program.

I'm an employment lawyer and we tweaked our DEI program - some would call it a rollback, but most DEI programs can be modified pretty easily just by emphasizing the term "inclusion" and getting rid of the terms diversity and equity.   

Focus on color-blind inclusion of disadvantaged candidates should have been embraced by the left decades ago.  Getting forced out of the cookie cutter DEI industry is going to be good for the left in the short and long run.

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On 5/26/2025 at 5:17 PM, Chopper said:

Billionaire sports team owners may be about to get an unanticipated jolt. Not sorry.

 

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Please please please make this apply to nascar owners

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Mass Deportation of People in Droves Now!

I would prefer: Compassionate Due Process Deportations of Persons Illegally in this Country, Now!

I'm seeing the only way for Dems to win the immigration war is to continue criticism of the needless inhuman treatment and lack of due process, but to really focus on the need to keep the US as a beacon for people in those countries that are shittier than ours (theoretically), and our economy's need for immigrants.  But frankly to be almost as ruthless as MAGA about anyone who hasn't followed the rules for admittance to the letter. 

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1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm an employment lawyer and we tweaked our DEI program - some would call it a rollback, but most DEI programs can be modified pretty easily just by emphasizing the term "inclusion" and getting rid of the terms diversity and equity.   

Focus on color-blind inclusion of disadvantaged candidates should have been embraced by the left decades ago.  Getting forced out of the cookie cutter DEI industry is going to be good for the left in the short and long run.

Regardless, it's just a word game at this point, so if you can accomplish the same noble and agreeable ends without the words, please do.

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2 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

But frankly to be almost as ruthless as MAGA about anyone who hasn't followed the rules for admittance to the letter. 

Sweet, let’s get a solution that actually works by focusing on the demand side. Would love to see for profit prisons overflowing with criminal employers

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Sweet, let’s get a solution that actually works by focusing on the demand side. Would love to see for profit prisons overflowing with criminal employers

Oh…no, he didn’t mean that.
Never arrest powerful white people when you can be cruel to powerless brown people instead. That rule is perhaps the closest to a religious truth in American life as you’re gonna get.
We only punch down, we never, ever punch up.
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Trump Trade School: Where we’ll teach you all about Fraud, Bribery, Extortion, Money Laundering, Insider Trading and many, many more unethical and immoral trades. 

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20 hours ago, mooseoutfront said:

 

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Username checks. 

Derail: my bil and his family lived in Cordova for several years. It’s a beautiful place. They are as opposite from maga as you can get. One of his kids bagged 2 bull moose 2 years in a row at the age of 11 and 12. That’s good eating. They brought some of the meat down for Xmas one year. It was like a 20 lb piece of meat. 

ok. Carry on. 

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14 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Target is being boycotted because they immediately announced a rollback of their DEI program. Which was amazingly tone deaf because they had greatly benefited from customer behavior after being a leader on social causes before.

But I think net-net shopping at Target instead of Amazon for an item isn't something you should feel bad about. 

What is amazing is that if you are really fucking bored and want to look through the 10K of Coca Cola, you will see how a mature company writes about DEI.   These clowns did it to themselves.

 

11 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm an employment lawyer and we tweaked our DEI program - some would call it a rollback, but most DEI programs can be modified pretty easily just by emphasizing the term "inclusion" and getting rid of the terms diversity and equity.   

Focus on color-blind inclusion of disadvantaged candidates should have been embraced by the left decades ago.  Getting forced out of the cookie cutter DEI industry is going to be good for the left in the short and long run.

how brave of you.

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12 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Mass Deportation of People in Droves Now!

I would prefer: Compassionate Due Process Deportations of Persons Illegally in this Country, Now!

I'm seeing the only way for Dems to win the immigration war is to continue criticism of the needless inhuman treatment and lack of due process, but to really focus on the need to keep the US as a beacon for people in those countries that are shittier than ours (theoretically), and our economy's need for immigrants.  But frankly to be almost as ruthless as MAGA about anyone who hasn't followed the rules for admittance to the letter. 

Gee, if only the previous President and democrats in the Senate and the House had supported a bill that would do exactly that then they would have won, right? 

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19 hours ago, Chopper said:

Lots of wealthy, white families with small kids about to feel the pain of the administration trying to resolve the Great Au Pair Crime Spree.

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we're probably a years away from a program authorizing the use of handmaids.

"Hey all you illegal women. Want to stay in America? Do we have an offer for you!" 

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7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I kinda disagree.  It's the cognitive dissonance that lives in their brains.

Individual minorities, gay people etc. who they personally know?  Well.....Jose is a good fella, hard worker.  We aren't talking about him.  And Carol...she's a sweetheart.  We don't mean her.

But brown people generally?  THEY'RE INVADER CRIMINALS!

How do they reconcile these?  We've all seen it before.  If you grew up in the South over the past 50 years, there is a 100% chance you've heard someone utter the phrase "oh....but not you, Jose/Tyrese/Vinh...you're one of the good ones!"

It's that easy.  They can be both completely and totally racist....yet compassionate and not racist as to a specific individual.  And both things are absolutely true, and match human nature.  It's easy to dehumanize a group, it's hard to dehumanize an individual who you know - it's a cousin of the "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" phenomenon.

We are filled with people who will cheerfully build death camps for "the other," then cry genuine tears when their minority friend is sent to his death there.

There was a guy I worked for about 10 years ago.  In general a nice man but boy did he have his prejudices.  He was famous for saying "look you know I'm not a racist but"  and then go on to say something really racist.  

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5 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

There was a guy I worked for about 10 years ago.  In general a nice man but boy did he have his prejudices.  He was famous for saying "look you know I'm not a racist but"  and then go on to say something really racist.  

....but he's also the same guy who would pull over and help a black guy having car trouble.  Every one of us had someone in our family or circle who was like that -- a shitty racist, voted for and even worked for overall racist policies, fought against anything that would acknowledge racism....but freely and kindly helped individuals of any race, without question.

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13 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Regardless, it's just a word game at this point, so if you can accomplish the same noble and agreeable ends without the words, please do.

I mean that's the dream right?  but if companies could do that, I wonder why they didn't in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's.  It's almost like those words shaped by more enlightened moralities were starting to have an impact, and that was SCARY!    Who's gonna make my samiches and dig my ditches?

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

a shitty racist, voted for and even worked for overall racist policies, fought against anything that would acknowledge racism....but freely and kindly helped individuals of any race, without question.

I'd bet they'd tell you all about the Hatian orphanages they contribute to, while cheering on toddler cancer patients getting deported and separating children from their parents

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3 hours ago, Tuco said:

I think how you talk about DEI/Inclusion/Equality is as important as the mechanics of the program itself.  When corporations suddenly back off of DEI programs after the election of Trump, that sends a message to every employee; every minority and every racist working for you heard that message clearly.  Not only is everything you previously said on the topic superseded, you have clearly indicated it is all negotiable.  Nobody cares about how the policy is written.  

Many companies didn't do much more than change the wording. Absolutely no changes were made to employee interest groups, or any other policy. Companies were always subject to reverse discrimination actions so I am assuming most companies didn't have to do a whole lot in terms of changing policies other than clarifying or opening up certain training or mentorship programs to all races and sexes. Which is probably not a bad policy to begin with. 

DEI and the related "unconscious bias" are both somewhat sloppy, careless terms and opportunity for truly underrepresented groups can proceed better without those terms. 

Netted out, the executive actions related to DEI all demand one thing - don't exclude white males.

That's not a tall order for companies that weren't doing that anyway, and that gives Dems lots of incentive to truly look at inclusion of all groups.

I'm being Panglossian, but this chainsaw allows people who care about opportunity to go forward while jettisoning the weight of those terms. 

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42 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Netted out, the executive actions related to DEI all demand one thing - don't exclude white males.

Lol

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1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Many companies didn't do much more than change the wording. Absolutely no changes were made to employee interest groups, or any other policy. Companies were always subject to reverse discrimination actions so I am assuming most companies didn't have to do a whole lot in terms of changing policies other than clarifying or opening up certain training or mentorship programs to all races and sexes. Which is probably not a bad policy to begin with. 

DEI and the related "unconscious bias" are both somewhat sloppy, careless terms and opportunity for truly underrepresented groups can proceed better without those terms. 

Netted out, the executive actions related to DEI all demand one thing - don't exclude white males.

That's not a tall order for companies that weren't doing that anyway, and that gives Dems lots of incentive to truly look at inclusion of all groups.

I'm being Panglossian, but this chainsaw allows people who care about opportunity to go forward while jettisoning the weight of those terms. 

Absolute fucking head in the sand nonsense. 

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I kinda disagree.  It's the cognitive dissonance that lives in their brains.

Individual minorities, gay people etc. who they personally know?  Well.....Jose is a good fella, hard worker.  We aren't talking about him.  And Carol...she's a sweetheart.  We don't mean her.

But brown people generally?  THEY'RE INVADER CRIMINALS!

How do they reconcile these?  We've all seen it before.  If you grew up in the South over the past 50 years, there is a 100% chance you've heard someone utter the phrase "oh....but not you, Jose/Tyrese/Vinh...you're one of the good ones!"

It's that easy.  They can be both completely and totally racist....yet compassionate and not racist as to a specific individual.  And both things are absolutely true, and match human nature.  It's easy to dehumanize a group, it's hard to dehumanize an individual who you know - it's a cousin of the "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" phenomenon.

We are filled with people who will cheerfully build death camps for "the other," then cry genuine tears when their minority friend is sent to his death there.

You just described my MIL to a T.  She's fully on board the Trump train, but has illegals that do work at her house that she likes and has no problems with them.  The cognitive dissonance is real.

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I kinda disagree.  It's the cognitive dissonance that lives in their brains.

Individual minorities, gay people etc. who they personally know?  Well.....Jose is a good fella, hard worker.  We aren't talking about him.  And Carol...she's a sweetheart.  We don't mean her.

But brown people generally?  THEY'RE INVADER CRIMINALS!

How do they reconcile these?  We've all seen it before.  If you grew up in the South over the past 50 years, there is a 100% chance you've heard someone utter the phrase "oh....but not you, Jose/Tyrese/Vinh...you're one of the good ones!"

It's that easy.  They can be both completely and totally racist....yet compassionate and not racist as to a specific individual.  And both things are absolutely true, and match human nature.  It's easy to dehumanize a group, it's hard to dehumanize an individual who you know - it's a cousin of the "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" phenomenon.

We are filled with people who will cheerfully build death camps for "the other," then cry genuine tears when their minority friend is sent to his death there.

Lol. Any black person that has done well for themselves knows what Brisket here said is dead on balls accurate. You're one of the good ones. "You are so well spoken". They have it in their heads that everyone else is ignorant and a criminal. Just one or two good ones.

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2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Lol. Any black person that has done well for themselves knows what Brisket here said is dead on balls accurate. You're one of the good ones. "You are so well spoken". They have it in their heads that everyone else is ignorant and a criminal. Just one or two good ones.

Bingo.  And the cousin of that (for my folks) is "I don't even think of you as a mexican....you're like a real American," or words to that effect.  Which carries with it the bold implication that the DEFAULT is if'n you have a messican name, you're not a "real American," and the burden is on you to prove otherwise.

Applies to any "foreign-sounding" name/ethnicity as well.

And yeah, it has ALWAYS applied to black people in America.  One of the good ones, you're so well-spoken, you're a credit to your people, all that shit.  But, you know, racism isn't a thing anymore, and Thatguy and I are just making shit shit up/relating things that ended in the 1950s, etc.

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Yeah, the “Godly inspired act to prevent black and brown men from whistling at white women” is probably being drafted by Stephen Miller as we speak.   It probably wasn’t filed yet because they are trying to find the right verbiage to allow the death penalty.

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3 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I get what you are saying.  I think for your job, your focus is looking at the details of the policy or program.  But I think you are missing, or ignoring, the overall context in which those details are being adjusted. Trump runs on a life-is-so-unfair-to-white-men, Trump wins, and then multiple corporations remove "diversity" and "equality" from their company policies.  You can argue the merits of this or that individual section or subsection of a policy, but, as a whole, this is just corporate cowardice and greed, at the expense of minorities who are significantly underrepresented in the corporate world. 

And we always do this.  The Republicans make some stink about something and we think the solution is to change the name.  Black Lives Matter is a pretty self-evident statement, but some people feel the need to qualify it.  Critical Race Theory is an academic approach, but rather than standing by its basic conept, we back off leaving the vacuum for Republicans to set the academic agenda.  Now DEI....because somehow diversity and equality are bad words. No, fuck that.  We need to stop retreating from the terminology and start defending the concepts.  But by all means, let's change the name tags and see if that addresses white victimhood that they don't have the same built in advantages they had in the past. 

 

I'm old enough to remember seeing TV ads as a kid for companies that stated they were equal opportunity employers, without much of a stink. It's pretty plainly stated and, hell, there's a whole federal commission that's supposed to enforce related laws. 

Is it the fact that organizations/companies that incorporate proactive employment opportunity policies (DEI) in hiring and internal advancement a bridge too far for these people?

Take Greaser Bob, for example. As a self-professed employment lawyer, he should be familiar with EEO laws; however, his judgment appears muddled when it comes to actually encouraging equal opportunities for all rather than simply passively requiring them. Or maybe I'm being too charitable and he's actually opposed to equal opportunities to all, after all.

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4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

however, his judgment appears muddled when it comes to actually encouraging equal opportunities for all rather than simply passively requiring them.

You'd like to think this is the case.

Requiring equal opportunity - that means "you don't screen out any candidate based on race.  Evaluate all of them equally."

Encouraging equal opportunity - that means that in addition to recruiting at UT, you also send recruiters to universities with larger minority and first-gen college student populations (like Prairie View, TAMU-Laredo, etc.).  Doesn't mean you FAVOR any such candidate - a shitty resume from a Prairie View grad gets treated like a shitty resume from a UT grad.  It DOES mean that you are expanding your search beyond your historical habits.  

But in Greaser Bob land, the answer is actually much closer to this:

8 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Or maybe I'm being too charitable and he's actually opposed to equal opportunities to all, after all.

Daring to look for candidates in non-traditional places, full of minority candidates who have historically been overlooked....well, that's RACIST AGAINST WHITE DUDES.  Not hiring, mind you....merely LOOKING, and trying to increase the pool beyond your existing good-old-boy network...is illegal discrimination.

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1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

I continue to stand by the assertion that if those who hire undocumented employees where fined/jailed for doing so, things would get shook up pretty nicely.  

That would violate the sole governing principle of modern conservatism:

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Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

 

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1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

I continue to stand by the assertion that if those who hire undocumented employees where fined/jailed for doing so, things would get shook up pretty nicely.  

That's the thing Mac. A lot of these folks recently weren't actually undocumented. They were here on some type of program that got canceled because reasons. Trump's last day in office he granted asylum to Venezuelans. I am sure he did it to fuck with Biden but he let in a shit ton of the very people he is now deporting. Haitians came the right way. A ton of other people came the right way.

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1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

I continue to stand by the assertion that if those who hire undocumented employees where fined/jailed for doing so, things would get shook up pretty nicely.  

I agree. We should also publicly shame them with local police mugshot photos like they use to do with men caught in prostitution stings. Then, of course, ship them off to a 3rd world country supermax. 

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28 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Nonsense. They knew they were black when they came over here.

I stand by the theory that this is what happened to Trump at some point.

 

 

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