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3 hours ago, Chooky said:

Donald Trump would be wise to not trust Gina Haspel's testimony considering that Gina Haspel was appointed by Donald Trump.

Gina Haspel was the most NOT-Trumpy appointment since McMaster.  It was a real head scratcher at the time.

 If there was an anti-Trump Deep State IC  (there isn’t) it would be led by people like Gina Haspel. 

My guess is Pompeo was an enormous joke inside the CIA and his subordinates lobbied Pompeo to sell Gina Haspel to Trump as a replacement.  

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5 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I thought that was true only if "National Security" were involved?

It's supposed to be, and that's why trump labeled Canada, Mexico, etc as threats to national security in which Trudeau in particular was vocally insulted. Crooked shit like that is supposed to be struck down by Congress, but we all know that the Republican Congress completely abdicated their responsibilities for political gain

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11 minutes ago, Lurch said:

But her emails!

 

 

He never mentioned deleting and acid washing emails until he realized Corsi and Manafort had done it and Mueller had ways to get around it.  Now when this comes out, he's already planted the 'whatabouthillary' seed in his base's small brains.

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4 hours ago, Chooky said:

Going bankrupt and having property foreclosed to own the libs.

How many of those going under farms do you figure are going to be bought by the Chinese?  

China Is Making a Major Play for American Farms and Farmland

Companies backed by the Chinese government are making Big Ag acquisitions in the U.S.

The American farmer is revered in our culture. He—the mythical American farmer is invariably a man—is in many ways a professional embodiment of values, such as individualism and hard work, that are considered part of the national identity. With their backbreaking work, farmers settled the growing West through the 1862 Homestead Act. It’s not a stretch to say that farmers, riding the wave of manifest destiny, built the United States. Today, they continue to feed it.

But the days when anyone could pick up a pitchfork and become a farmer are long gone. Farmland can cost an average of $4,000 per acre in the United States, and most farms have roughly 1,100 acres. Some of the biggest crops, such as corn and alfalfa, aren’t even grown to feed people. Thanks to globalization, food grown in the Midwest might end up feeding someone half a world away.

In an effort to cut out the middleman, foreign buyers are trying to circumvent the American farmer. Instead of buying food from farmers who work their own land, some foreign buyers want to own and operate these American farms themselves—as well as the livestock barns and slaughterhouses. Between the 2013 purchase of pork processor Smithfield by a Chinese holding company and ChemChina’s pending $43 billion offer for the agrichemical company Syngenta, the world’s most populous country is making a major play to buy the proverbial American farm—and U.S. politicians are lending a helping hand.

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2 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

the world’s most populous country is making a major play to buy the proverbial American farm—and U.S. politicians are lending a helping hand.

I'm sure Devin Nunes has very rustled jimmies.

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6 minutes ago, RPM said:

I'm sure Devin Nunes has very rustled jimmies.

Hell, his family probably wants to cash out at first opportunity:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23471864/devin-nunes-family-farm-iowa-california/

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So here’s the secret: The Nunes family dairy of political lore—the one where his brother and parents work—isn’t in California. It’s in Iowa. Devin; his brother, Anthony III; and his parents, Anthony Jr. and Toni Dian, sold their California farmland in 2006. Anthony Jr. and Toni Dian, who has also been the treasurer of every one of Devin’s campaigns since 2001, used their cash from the sale to buy a dairy eighteen hundred miles away in Sibley, a small town in northwest Iowa where they—as well as Anthony III, Devin’s only sibling, and his wife, Lori—have lived since 2007. Devin’s uncle Gerald still owns a dairy back in Tulare, which is presumably where The Wall Street Journal’s reporter talked to Devin, and Devin is an investor in a Napa Valley winery, Alpha Omega, but his immediate family’s farm—as well as his family—is long gone.

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The Nunes family dairy, NuStar Farms LLC, sits on forty-three acres surrounded by corn on the southern outskirts of Sibley, off Highway 60, a main route between Sioux City and Minneapolis. According to Dairy Star, they have about two thousand Jersey cows. A source told me that NuStar sells almost all of its milk to Wells, an ice cream company in Le Mars, which makes the Blue Bunny brand. The NuStar cows are housed in two seven-hundred-foot, white aluminum barns that are the most prominent feature of the farm. The western sides of the barns are outfitted with dozens of steel ventilation fans that look like rocket engines from a distance, almost as if a pair of space-shuttle boosters had dropped in the middle of a cornfield.

Note.  2000 head of cattle on 43 acres doesn't compute. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Captainant said:

"Oh wait, we end up paying the tariffs?"

Literally had this conversation with my FIL who sells steel and was happy to claim success of the tariffs because they were able to hire two more people in his office

Over Thanksgiving, I made the annual pilgrimage up to West Texas from Austin to pick up my elderly parents and drive them to Denver. On the side of I-27 in Pueblo, there's a large steel mill that has apparently been shut down for a while. Going up and coming back, my mom expressed genuine surprise that it wasn't up and running again.

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23 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

How many of those going under farms do you figure are going to be bought by the Chinese?  

China Is Making a Major Play for American Farms and Farmland

Companies backed by the Chinese government are making Big Ag acquisitions in the U.S.

The American farmer is revered in our culture. He—the mythical American farmer is invariably a man—is in many ways a professional embodiment of values, such as individualism and hard work, that are considered part of the national identity. With their backbreaking work, farmers settled the growing West through the 1862 Homestead Act. It’s not a stretch to say that farmers, riding the wave of manifest destiny, built the United States. Today, they continue to feed it.

But the days when anyone could pick up a pitchfork and become a farmer are long gone. Farmland can cost an average of $4,000 per acre in the United States, and most farms have roughly 1,100 acres. Some of the biggest crops, such as corn and alfalfa, aren’t even grown to feed people. Thanks to globalization, food grown in the Midwest might end up feeding someone half a world away.

In an effort to cut out the middleman, foreign buyers are trying to circumvent the American farmer. Instead of buying food from farmers who work their own land, some foreign buyers want to own and operate these American farms themselves—as well as the livestock barns and slaughterhouses. Between the 2013 purchase of pork processor Smithfield by a Chinese holding company and ChemChina’s pending $43 billion offer for the agrichemical company Syngenta, the world’s most populous country is making a major play to buy the proverbial American farm—and U.S. politicians are lending a helping hand.

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This is fucking horrifying.  Same thing is happening with real estate on the west coast of the US and Canada.  

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This is fucking horrifying.  Same thing is happening with real estate on the west coast of the US and Canada.  

Check out Rotten on Netflix. The garlic industry is interesting and it is comforting to know that Chinese prisoners are peeling it with their teeth for us.
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15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is fucking horrifying.  Same thing is happening with real estate on the west coast of the US and Canada.  

I know we're talking about America here and likely no one gives a shit, but the Chinese have been doing the same in France for the past couple years which has caused a significant degree of heartburn over there. Similar to here, French farmers have long been subject to the same sort of mythos surrounding ours here in America and something they take great pride in, which they see as having a direct link to their world-famed cuisine and now consider under threat.

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1 hour ago, texas08 said:

Dumb son of a bitch...simply a dumb son of a bitch.

The worst part:  Trump, who as you so eloquently put is "simply a dumb son of a bitch", thinks his supporters are so fucking dumb that they'll believe whatever he says. And he's right. Tens of millions of Americans are willingly choosing partisanship over morality.  Our society can survive Trump, but I think Trumpism could break us for decades.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Chooky said:

Trump wanted to apply tariffs because it's the one thing he found out he can do on his own without needing pesky approval from any other branch of government.  He applied tariffs only because it gives the impression that he's "doing something" and it also provides him a "me, wrapped in a flag, versus them" appearance.  That was it.  He wanted another adversary solely for the sake of appearances.   

Multiple companies who have actual experience in real business and global sourcing and purchasing told him repetitively that tariffs do nothing to improve domestic production but actually accelerates outsourcing and raises prices not only for global businesses but consumers as well.  The exact thing they told him would happen is now happening.  I've got this sneaking suspicion that he's not that bright and has no idea what he's doing.  I mean, is it possible that this guy might be as equally stubborn as he is ignorant?  Forgive me for being blunt, but there seems to be a really good chance that Donald Trump is just ... dumb.   

Well, he did lose money on a casino

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15 hours ago, horncyclist said:

Holy shit. GOP conned into supporting the guy in favor of both protectionism AND command/control economy. 

Yeah, remember when the GOP was against government intervention in the economy?  They had a meltdown when Obama fired the GM CEO, never mind in that case the government was the bankruptcy lender and had every right and responsibility to do so.

Now, the White House is telling a corporation where to put plants.

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Here comes the shutdown.  Thanks, I guess.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/28/trump-politico-interview-1023306

 

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For the last two years, congressional Republicans have persuaded President Donald Trump to delay the fight to fund his border wall, convincing him he would pay a steep political price for such a high-stakes legislative brawl.

Trump is done waiting.

Nine days ahead of a deadline that could trigger a partial government shutdown, with no solution in sight, the president told POLITICO in a Tuesday Oval Office interview that he is unflinchingly firm Congress must send him a bill approving $5 billion for his wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, and said he would "totally be willing" to shut down the government if he doesn't get it. Democratic leaders — including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) — have said they would approve $1.6 billion for the wall, placing the two sides billions of dollars apart as the lame-duck session begins.

 

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Sitting at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, with a stack of papers, magazines and a soda at the ready, Trump said he now believes that a pitched battle over the border is a "total winner" politically for his party, and a loser for Democrats.

"I don't do anything ... just for political gain," Trump said. "But I will tell you, politically speaking, that issue is a total winner. People look at the border, they look at the rush to the police, they look at the rock throwers and really hurting three people, three very brave border patrol folks -- I think that it's a tremendous issue, but much more importantly, is really needed. So we have to have border security."

 

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