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3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Good luck, Texas and other states.  You are fucking around, and you are about to find out.  I relish watching the flight of educated people from those states.  Brain drain is real, and it is happening in Texas.  

 

I had bloodwork done at the Austin Diagnostic Clinic lab, in the North Austin Hospital, this morning.  The tech said they are swamped because they've already closed 2 of 3 satellite locations because they can't fill vacancies and at that location they are operating with less than half the normal staff.  FAFO.

 

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https://apnews.com/article/mexico-abortion-decriminalize-d87f6edbdf68c2e6c8f5700b3afd15de

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Mexico’s Supreme Court decriminalizes abortion nationwide

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico’s Supreme Court decriminalized abortion nationwide Wednesday, two years after ruling that abortion was not a crime in one northern state.

That earlier ruling had set off a grinding process of decriminalizing abortion state by state. Last week, the central state of Aguascalientes became the 12th state to decriminalize the procedure.

The court’s sweeping decision Wednesday comes amid a trend in Latin America of loosening restrictions on abortion, even as access has been limited in parts of the United States.

Mexico City was the first Mexican jurisdiction to decriminalize abortion 15 years ago.

 

 

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On 9/4/2023 at 11:50 PM, mchookem said:

Idaho kinda flies under the radar but that is one scary,  regressive state.

They’re the worst. At their convention, Idaho Republicans voted to reject language that would allow for an exception to their absolute ban on abortion In cases where it was necessary to save the life of the mother.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-2022-midterm-elections-health-election-2020-language-f9fdf6be22822bd2970f65f180d812dc

If a rape victim aborts the unwanted offspring of her attacker, his family can sue her. (I guess they specified his family and not the rapist himself so as not to seem barbaric and inhumane, or something.)

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/idaho-abortion-bill-rapist-families

Concerned about a rise in the maternal mortality rate coincidental with their draconian abortion restrictions? No worries, they simply suspended the committee that studies and reports on such matters.

https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/news/2023-07-07/idaho-maternal-mortality-review-committee-dissolve

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Mexico becoming more progressive than the US is something I didn't think I would live to see. 

This timeline: “we should look to Mexico as a model for a more decent, progressive, and less corrupt government.”

That’s a real thing. That is true. Holy shit.
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4 hours ago, royiv said:

Mexico becoming more progressive than the US is something I didn't think I would live to see. 

To be fair I don’t really think it’s about them becoming more progressive. They see a market for medical tourism and had enough about them to not let their silly little religious nonsense stand in the way of it.

Maybe they’ll use the money to pay for Trump’s wall like he promised!!!

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9 hours ago, hpslugga said:

To be fair I don’t really think it’s about them becoming more progressive. They see a market for medical tourism and had enough about them to not let their silly little religious nonsense stand in the way of it.

Maybe they’ll use the money to pay for Trump’s wall like he promised!!!

Mexico City is progressive as hell

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21 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/08/health/ohio-abortion-long/index.html

TLDR, lifelong Republicans suddenly find out what their party's bullshit antics cost them. 

"you mean the assholes I voted for passed fucked up laws but now I'm against those laws because it finally adversely affected me?"

FAFO! Fuck them for enabling that bullshit.

The leopards have been quite satiated eating faces lately 

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On 9/1/2023 at 10:44 AM, jimmyjazz said:

I don't see how it isn't.  I can drive to Colorado to legally smoke pot.  They're not stopping me from doing that.  They know they couldn't. 

(This reminds me, I need to visit Colorado.)

 

I've thought about this too, and Louisiana you can drive there gamble and drive back. Selective enforcement

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Online business review site Yelp is suing Texas to defend its descriptions of crisis pregnancy centers which make clear to readers that the centers do not provide abortions or abortion referrals.

Currently, Yelp applies an alert it calls a "Consumer Notice" to crisis pregnancy center listings reading, "This is a Crisis Pregnancy Center. Crisis Pregnancy Centers do not offer abortions or referrals to abortion providers."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yelp-texas-lawsuit-over-crisis-pregnancy-center-labels/

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anti-choice-attorneys-want-thousands-of-abortion-providers-and-donors-personal-information_n_65171fa8e4b08e1d3e4d3c83

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Anti-Choice Attorneys Want Thousands Of Abortion Providers' And Donors' Personal Information

“It is objectively terrifying to think about what anti-abortion extremists want to do with this personal information," said one abortion fund leader.

 

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4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Will this be able to stand up in court?

 

 

 

So violate the commerce clause in the language of the ordinance?  I’d say bold strategy but except, y’know, this SCOTUS.  

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11 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

So violate the commerce clause in the language of the ordinance?  I’d say bold strategy but except, y’know, this SCOTUS.  

This. 
 

And nary a peep from folks who claim they remain Republicans because they are more truly a conservative than conservatives who have left the Republican Party. If you are willing to go to the mattresses to defy the rule of law, you ain’t Liberty and freedom and Constitutional Republic conservatives. Those folks are unprincipled ideologues.

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Serious question-how is this logistically enforceable?  What's the "probable cause" metric?  A chubby female between 14-54 is driving or riding in a passenger vehicle?  We have drivers that drive from Texas to New Mexico every single day.  Sometimes the drivers have their wife or daughter with them, riding shotgun, to spend time together.  Can a clearly permitted interstate kingpin truck now be pulled over to question the female passenger?  Because I can't think of a more gross violation of the interstate commerce clause than stopping a freight truck, or a greyhound bus, or an Amtrak train, or a Vonlane, or an Uber, or an Amazon truck...all of which operate across state lines multiple times a day---particularly in cities near borders.  

Because some company is going to tempt law enforcement by advertising on the vehicle itself that there's a female inside.  And then shit's gonna get real.

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17 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Serious question-how is this logistically enforceable?  What's the "probable cause" metric?  A chubby female between 14-54 is driving or riding in a passenger vehicle?  We have drivers that drive from Texas to New Mexico every single day.  Sometimes the drivers have their wife or daughter with them, riding shotgun, to spend time together.  Can a clearly permitted interstate kingpin truck now be pulled over to question the female passenger?  Because I can't think of a more gross violation of the interstate commerce clause than stopping a freight truck, or a greyhound bus, or an Amtrak train, or a Vonlane, or an Uber, or an Amazon truck...all of which operate across state lines multiple times a day---particularly in cities near borders.  

Because some company is going to tempt law enforcement by advertising on the vehicle itself that there's a female inside.  And then shit's gonna get real.

It's Lubbock.  There are people constantly coming in from New Mexico, as well as people from Lubbock traveling to Amarillo or DFW, not to mention the steady stream of female Tech students leaving Lubbock and going home on weekends, etc.

But we've also seen state legislators who want to ban women from leaving Texas for an abortion so I'm guessing they want checkpoints or access to medical records or even pregnancy test purchase records (lock up the tests, make them swipe an ID like they are getting allergy medication).

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Right, I get that it's Lubbock near New Mexico and Oklahoma even.  But how do they "establish that a crime has been committed or is about to be committed" with all those cars just passing by?  Never mind the buses, trains, trucks, and aeronautical cloud cars?  Outside of a CBP-styled mandatory checkpoint at every single interstate road where every single vehicle of any kind has to stop and is subject to search, how does this work in practical application?  Plus nobody travels with their medical records in the fucking car.  Is that gonna be some new mandate?  

I think you're right though, I think we're just months away from women having to present ID to the pharmacist to get a pregnancy test.  Instead of being able to just grab them off the shelf and do self-checkout.  Of course, a man or non-pregnant friend can just go in there and buy one for her.  I don't give a shit, I buy so much random crap at Randall's as it is, why not throw this in the mix?  

Can the county make any health care provider inform them within 5 business days when a patient in their care has turned up pregnant?  Then that name goes into a vehicle database and they use traffic cams to search for that license plate?  What if the woman is driving through from Louisiana to get to New Mexico?  Now there's three states involved?  What if a grown, married woman who miscarried is going to get a D&C in her second term (long after the permitted window)?  

806-767-1330 is the County Commissioner's office line.  I have to take a shit in 10 minutes, we'll see what they have to say.  

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26 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Serious question-how is this logistically enforceable?  What's the "probable cause" metric?  A chubby female between 14-54 is driving or riding in a passenger vehicle?  We have drivers that drive from Texas to New Mexico every single day.  Sometimes the drivers have their wife or daughter with them, riding shotgun, to spend time together.  Can a clearly permitted interstate kingpin truck now be pulled over to question the female passenger?  Because I can't think of a more gross violation of the interstate commerce clause than stopping a freight truck, or a greyhound bus, or an Amtrak train, or a Vonlane, or an Uber, or an Amazon truck...all of which operate across state lines multiple times a day---particularly in cities near borders.  

Because some company is going to tempt law enforcement by advertising on the vehicle itself that there's a female inside.  And then shit's gonna get real.

This is the first thing that I thought of too.  It's just a right wing fever dream.  They gonna stop every car at the border of Texas and New Mexico?  A quick google maps search shows me at least 20 roads crossing the border between Clovis and Hobbs, a 50 mile stretch.  Seems like you would need quite a few cops to make that feasible.  Like, probably more than exist in the panhandle.

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is the first thing that I thought of too.  It's just a right wing fever dream.  They gonna stop every car at the border of Texas and New Mexico?  A quick google maps search shows me at least 20 roads crossing the border between Clovis and Hobbs, a 50 mile stretch.  Seems like you would need quite a few cops to make that feasible.  Like, probably more than exist in the panhandle.

Well the "No Country for Old Men" reboot sounds politically charged as fuck.

And what the fuck with, "License, Proof of insurance, and latest pap smear results please" when you get pulled over?  

Is Lubbock County gonna by an anti-aircraft system now to shoot down places in its airspace heading for points West or North?

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It is just for show.  But that won’t stop me from constantly notifying, via a cheap call center abroad, Lubbock county law enforcement that antifa and LGBTQ and a Mister Ronan Sinatra caravans are going through their roads to take women to receive abortions in New Mexico.  I’ll have sheriffs taken away from their usual routes/shifts in the double digits by the end of the month.  And then MAGA folks can whine about lack of police response in their towns.  Because Lobo called their resources to non existent instances using real commercial license plates that will register in their system as current but eventually they’ll see they are interstate trucks domiciled on the east coast.  

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5 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is the first thing that I thought of too.  It's just a right wing fever dream.  They gonna stop every car at the border of Texas and New Mexico?  A quick google maps search shows me at least 20 roads crossing the border between Clovis and Hobbs, a 50 mile stretch.  Seems like you would need quite a few cops to make that feasible.  Like, probably more than exist in the panhandle.

We need more police funding, you pinko soy boy.

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As juvenile as it sounds, the "Well maybe the defunded police would respond faster to your property crimes, Karen.  If they weren't all busy with compulsory traffic stops to halt abortion vacations!" is a soundbite that would stick like gorilla glue.  

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Y'all don't seem to get that Greg is putting up razor wire all along the New Mexico border now.

@Beau Vine You'll have to find another route through Oklahoma (spit) because the Raton Pass will not be an option.

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SO yeah, how does this work...razor wire blocking Latino immigrants from entering Texas from New mexico but people from Lubbock county can't go the other way?  Some kinda bizarro-world border standoff between NM and Tx state police?  Where are the "constitutional originalists/strict construction" liberty folks on this interstate situation?  

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So, according to the WSJ, abortions actually went up last year after Dobbs, albeit slightly.  Births were also down (again).

It's like Dobbs didn't do anything except unify everyone against the Republicans.  Excellent.

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I see a business opportunity here. Get a black trans-am and run blocker for all of the women traveling through Lubbock for an abortion. I just need to figure out a good CB code name.

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10 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

So, according to the WSJ, abortions actually went up last year after Dobbs, albeit slightly.  Births were also down (again).

It's like Dobbs didn't do anything except unify everyone against the Republicans.  Excellent.

It also subjected a lot of women to unnecessary pain and suffering. Not so excellent.

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Idaho's first 'abortion trafficking' arrest:

 

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Last week, an Idaho teenager and his mother were arrested for bringing the teen’s girlfriend out-of-state for an abortion. The pair were charged with multiple felonies, including second degree kidnapping, for taking a minor under 16 years-old “with the intent to keep or conceal [her] from her custodial parent...by transporting the child out of the state for the purpose of obtaining an abortion.” 

The 15 year-old, identified in court records as K.B., was living in Pocatello with her 18 year-old boyfriend Kaydn* and his mother, Rachael, when she became pregnant. In May, they brought her to Oregon, where K.B. received abortion medication. Idaho’s ‘abortion trafficking’ law went into effect that same month. 

The investigation into the mother and son began shortly after K.B.’s mother reported to police that her daughter had been sexually assaulted. Though K.B. became sexually active when Kaydn was 17 years-old, he turned 18 during the course of their relationship; so in addition to the kidnapping charge, court documents show that he’s also been charged with rape and sexual exploitation of a child.

During this conversation with law enforcement, K.B.’s mother also reported that her daughter had been taken to Oregon for an abortion without parental permission. This sparked a far-reaching investigation that included accessing geolocation data to place the teenager at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Bend, and tracking her movement with Kaydn and Rachael from Idaho to Oregon. (A search warrant, for example, shows that law enforcement accessed the phones of all three, and found that they were pinging cell towers in the area of the clinic.)

What’s also noteworthy is that while Kaydn and Rachael were charged with second degree kidnapping based on the fact that they brought K.B. out-of-state for an abortion, prosecutors declined to use the ‘abortion trafficking’ statute specifically. This may have something to do with the fact that the law is being challenged, and abortion rights advocates are asking for a temporary injunction against it while the case makes its way through the courts.

A ruling is expected in the next few weeks: if the judge blocks the law, prosecutors wouldn’t be able to enforce it in this, or any other, case. And so instead of citing the trafficking statute, prosecutors used the exact language of the trafficking law in the kidnapping charge.

I mean that literally: Idaho defines ‘abortion trafficking’ as an adult who “with the intent to conceal an abortion from the parents or guardian of a pregnant, unemancipated minor…procures an abortion.” The kidnapping charges against both Kaydn and Rachael accuse them of taking a child “with intent to keep or conceal K.B. from her custodial parent…by transporting the child out of the state for the purpose of obtaining an abortion.” It’s actually a pretty slick move, allowing prosecutors to charge the two with abortion trafficking without citing the statute specifically in case it gets blocked.

All that said, it’s evident from multiple court documents that this is a complicated story and a really sad situation. In one of the affidavits, for example, Bannock County prosecutor Erin Tognetti reports that Rachael was providing K.B. with methamphetamine and smoking it with her regularly. (In addition to kidnapping, Rachael has been charged with a litany of drug-related offenses.)

It’s also clear that K.B was treated poorly by her boyfriend and his mother. K.B. told law enforcement that her relationship with the pair deteriorated after she ended the pregnancy. Prosecutor Tognetti writes in the affidavit that they would “pick at everything she did and make her feel like everything she did was wrong.”

And while texts show the teen saying that she’s glad she ended the pregnancy, Tognetti writes that K.B. reported that Kaydn and Rachael pressured her into the abortion and dissuaded her from telling her mother—threatening to kick her out if she did.**

It’s unclear where the teen’s parents were during all of this; K.B. was supposed to be living with her father, but had moved in with her boyfriend six months prior.

It’s not surprising that the people at the center of this case seem to be having a really difficult time—we know that the most marginalized among us are much more likely to be charged or targeted by law enforcement in abortion-related cases (and all others). We also know that prosecutors seeking to test out laws like this are likely to go after people who won’t garner much sympathy from the public.

The hope is that people will be a little less outraged over an objectively outrageous law.

Abortion, Every Day will continue to bring you more information on this story as we get it. In the meantime, I’m sure like all of you—I’m just hoping that K.B. is safe.

 

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3 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Once the opposition coalesces, the blowback will be national .

Better hope so, there are a shitload of Republicans in Texas who want to arrest any woman, regardless of age, who leaves the state for an abortion.

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