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Trump flew into the Harlingen airport on Air Force 1, hopped on his helicopter to fly to the McAllen airport (which he actually flew into with Air Force 1, 2 years ago), got in his motorcade to the Alamo, TX border wall. Spoke for 23 minutes and went back to the McAllen airport, got on his helicopter to fly 20 minutes to the Harlingen airport to board Air Force 1.

 

As much of this being a publicity stunt of his final days, the day was cold and hazy and blocked the helicopters path along the highway in the morning from the citizens viewing above but barley allowed it to be seen coming back. In the end, this is the most worthless waste of money I have ever seen used.  

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4 minutes ago, Walte464 said:

In the end, this is the most worthless waste of money I have ever seen used.

Moreso than the hundreds of millions of campaign donations and taxpayer dollars he’s funneled into his own properties? We know he’s spent well over $100 Million of our tax dollars just to go golfing at his private resorts. He’s also directed military and diplomatic business to his struggling properties. The one in Scotland in particular leaps to mind. 

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9 hours ago, Captainant said:

Luxembourg getting it right just in time for page 45

Luxembourg calls Trump a 'criminal' and 'political pyromaniac who should be sent to criminal court'

Guess that's why the trip was cancelled

i have been all over the world, fortunately due to work and other things. luxembourg is up there. did not expect how cool that place could be. 

pro tip: don't walk across the bridge to the modern art museum. take a ride. or also don't wear cowboy boots while doing same. 

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9 hours ago, Captainant said:

Luxembourg getting it right just in time for page 45

Luxembourg calls Trump a 'criminal' and 'political pyromaniac who should be sent to criminal court'

Guess that's why the trip was cancelled

i have been all over the world, fortunately due to work and other things. luxembourg is up there. did not expect how cool that place could be. 

pro tip: don't walk across the bridge to the modern art museum. take a ride. or also don't wear cowboy boots while doing same. 

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7 hours ago, Walte464 said:

Trump flew into the Harlingen airport on Air Force 1, hopped on his helicopter to fly to the McAllen airport (which he actually flew into with Air Force 1, 2 years ago), got in his motorcade to the Alamo, TX border wall. Spoke for 23 minutes and went back to the McAllen airport, got on his helicopter to fly 20 minutes to the Harlingen airport to board Air Force 1.

 

As much of this being a publicity stunt of his final days, the day was cold and hazy and blocked the helicopters path along the highway in the morning from the citizens viewing above but barley allowed it to be seen coming back. In the end, this is the most worthless waste of money I have ever seen used.  

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Not so....he picked up a check from Mexico for the wall while he was there right?

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2 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Not so....he picked up a check from Mexico for the wall while he was there right?

Is that what was going on in that slit in the wall?  I thought they were passing him drugs.  Turns out it was just a wad of money wrapped in cellophane and duct tape.  

I would have preferred a certified check, but cash will do.  

I hope Mexico apologized as well for sending all those murderers and thugs up to D.C. last week to raid our Capitol and kill 6 Americans.  I'm sure Trump took note.

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7 hours ago, Walte464 said:

Trump flew into the Harlingen airport on Air Force 1, hopped on his helicopter to fly to the McAllen airport (which he actually flew into with Air Force 1, 2 years ago), got in his motorcade to the Alamo, TX border wall. Spoke for 23 minutes and went back to the McAllen airport, got on his helicopter to fly 20 minutes to the Harlingen airport to board Air Force 1.

 

As much of this being a publicity stunt of his final days, the day was cold and hazy and blocked the helicopters path along the highway in the morning from the citizens viewing above but barley allowed it to be seen coming back. In the end, this is the most worthless waste of money I have ever seen used.  

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What is the point of the Osprey escort. Is it full of Marines?

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I have it on the highest of RGV-GOP sources, that Trump's staff had asked for a brief meet-n-greet with local Republican leaders for a high-dollar fundraiser for his legal fund which he wants to use even after he leaves office to continue to prove meddling in those 7 key states.   Only a handful offered to bundle money/attendees so it was called off over the weekend.  Which would explain why his trip was so short.  

I know we've discussed this before, but how do they get Marine 1 helicopter to places so far away?  Does it leave ahead of time and refuel along the way and they use something different to take POTUS from the White House to AF1?  

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1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Eric knows.  Also, good to see the AP going after him on that last question.  

Anyone who doesn't yet should make AP News one of their top sources for facts.

No talking heads, few videos, calm, deliberate presentation of facts.  They pull no punches.  www.apnews.com

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I have it on the highest of RGV-GOP sources, that Trump's staff had asked for a brief meet-n-greet with local Republican leaders for a high-dollar fundraiser for his legal fund which he wants to use even after he leaves office to continue to prove meddling in those 7 key states.   Only a handful offered to bundle money/attendees so it was called off over the weekend.  Which would explain why his trip was so short.  
I know we've discussed this before, but how do they get Marine 1 helicopter to places so far away?  Does it leave ahead of time and refuel along the way and they use something different to take POTUS from the White House to AF1?  

If you notice the outside of DC Marine one is different than the normal Marine 1. The travel version is a VH-60N and it fits in a C-17.
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24 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I have it on the highest of RGV-GOP sources, that Trump's staff had asked for a brief meet-n-greet with local Republican leaders for a high-dollar fundraiser for his legal fund which he wants to use even after he leaves office to continue to prove meddling in those 7 key states.   Only a handful offered to bundle money/attendees so it was called off over the weekend.  Which would explain why his trip was so short.  

I know we've discussed this before, but how do they get Marine 1 helicopter to places so far away?  Does it leave ahead of time and refuel along the way and they use something different to take POTUS from the White House to AF1?  

A C-17 is sent out ahead full of goodies, such as a limo, transportation for Secret Service, etc.  Leeroy touched on this.

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Yeah, I knew they flew one of those with all the motorcade 'n shit.  I just didn't realize there was a separate helicopter that was different from Marine1 that could fit inside there.   I've been inside C-17's, C-5's and even an XC-99 and I still can't wrap my head around how much shit those things can carry.  I still don't believe they can even get off the group.  They're like the Donald Trump of airplanes.  They shouldn't work or be in any position of power because of how odd-looking they are, but sure enough...there they go!

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So on an hourly basis, assuming from wheels up in DC to Harlingen, the little shindig and sightseeing in Alamo and the wheels down in DC at the end of the day, what did this frivolous trip cost?   I'm guessing the whole trip took, what, 8-10 hours?  And 5+ of that was in the air to/from Harlingen.

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5 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

So on an hourly basis, assuming from wheels up in DC to Harlingen, the little shindig and sightseeing in Alamo and the wheels down in DC at the end of the day, what did this frivolous trip cost?   I'm guessing the whole trip took, what, 8-10 hours?  And 5+ of that was in the air to/from Harlingen.

Doesn’t matter, OPM.

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Pence Reached His Limit With Trump. It Wasn’t Pretty.
After four years of tongue-biting silence that critics say enabled the president’s worst instincts, the vice president would not yield to the pressure and name-calling from his boss.

WASHINGTON — For Vice President Mike Pence, the moment of truth had arrived. After three years and 11 months of navigating the treacherous waters of President Trump’s ego, after all the tongue-biting, pride-swallowing moments where he employed strategic silence or florid flattery to stay in his boss’s good graces, there he was being cursed by the president.

Mr. Trump was enraged that Mr. Pence was refusing to try to overturn the election. In a series of meetings, the president had pressed relentlessly, alternately cajoling and browbeating him. Finally, just before Mr. Pence headed to the Capitol to oversee the electoral vote count last Wednesday, Mr. Trump called the vice president’s residence to push one last time.

“You can either go down in history as a patriot,” Mr. Trump told him, according to two people briefed on the conversation, “or you can go down in history as a pussy.”

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The blowup between the nation’s two highest elected officials then played out in dramatic fashion as the president publicly excoriated the vice president at an incendiary rally and sent agitated supporters to the Capitol where they stormed the building — some of them chanting “Hang Mike Pence.”

Evacuated to the basement, Mr. Pence huddled for hours while Mr. Trump tweeted out an attack on him rather than call to check on his safety.

It was an extraordinary rupture of a partnership that had survived too many challenges to count.

The loyal lieutenant who had almost never diverged from the president, who had finessed every other possible fracture, finally came to a decision point he could not avoid. He would uphold the election despite the president and despite the mob. And he would pay the price with the political base he once hoped to harness for his own run for the White House.

“Pence had a choice between his constitutional duty and his political future, and he did the right thing,” said John Yoo, a legal scholar consulted by Mr. Pence’s office. “I think he was the man of the hour in many ways — for both Democrats and Republicans. He did his duty even though he must have known, when he did it, that that probably meant he could never become president.”

Former Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona, one of Mr. Trump’s most outspoken Republican critics and a longtime friend of Mr. Pence before they drifted apart over the president, said he was relieved the vice president had finally taken a stand.

“There were many points where I wished he would have separated, spoke out, but I’m glad he did it when he did,” Mr. Flake said. “I wish he would have done it earlier, but I’m sure grateful he did it now. And I knew he would.”

Not everyone gave Mr. Pence much credit, arguing that he should hardly be lionized for following the Constitution and maintaining that his deference to the president for nearly four years enabled Mr. Trump’s assault on democracy in the first place.

“I’m glad he didn’t break the law, but it’s kind of hard to call somebody courageous for choosing not to help overthrow our democratic system of government,” said Representative Tom Malinowski, Democrat of New Jersey. “He’s got to understand that the man he’s been working for and defending loyally is almost single-handedly responsible for creating a movement in this country that wants to hang Mike Pence.”

The rift between Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence has dominated their final days in office — not least because the vice president has the power under the 25th Amendment to remove the president from office with support of the cabinet. The House voted on Tuesday demanding that Mr. Pence take such action or else it would impeach Mr. Trump.

Mr. Pence sent a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi late Tuesday refusing to act. But Mr. Trump has been nervous enough about it that he finally broke five days of the cold shoulder to invite his vice president to the Oval Office on Monday night to smooth over their split. The official description of the hourlong conversation was “good”; the unofficial description was “nonsubstantive” and “stilted.”

The clash is the third time in 20 years that a departing president and vice president came to conflict in their last days. After Vice President Al Gore lost his presidential campaign in 2000, he had a bitter fight with President Bill Clinton in the Oval Office over who was to blame. Eight years later, just days before leaving office, Vice President Dick Cheney castigated President George W. Bush for refusing to pardon I. Lewis Libby Jr., the vice president’s former chief of staff, for perjury in the C.I.A. leak case.

Mr. Trump came into office with no real understanding of how his predecessors had handled relationships with their running mates. In the early days, when it became clear that there would be no organizational chart or formal decision-making process, Mr. Pence made himself a regular presence in the Oval Office, simply showing up with no agenda, often walking into a policy discussion for which he had received no briefing materials.

He arrived in the West Wing each morning, received an update about when the president was coming down from the residence and then simply stationed himself in the Oval Office for most of the day. He was almost never formally invited to anything and his name was rarely on official meeting manifests. But he was almost always around.

Calm and unflappable, Mr. Pence took on the role of confidant for cabinet secretaries and other officials fearing Mr. Trump’s ire, advising how to broach uncomfortable topics with the president without triggering him.

Not angering Mr. Trump “was a key objective of his,” observed David J. Shulkin, the former secretary of veterans affairs. “He tried very hard to straddle a very tough line.” But that meant Mr. Pence’s own views were often opaque.

“Were the policies and the statements being put out, were they ones that he completely agreed with?” Dr. Shulkin asked. “Or was it his strategy that it is better to be in the room, it is better to be a trusted party to help moderate some of those strategies and the way to do that is not to publicly disagree? I think that was a really hard one to figure out, exactly where he stood.”

Mr. Pence ultimately discovered that loyalty to Mr. Trump only matters until it does not. Tension between the two had grown in recent months as the president railed privately about Mr. Pence. The vice president’s allies believed Mr. Trump was stirred up in part by Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, who told him that Pence aides were leaking to reporters. That helped create a toxic atmosphere between the two offices even before Election Day.

When Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the election results were rejected at every turn by state officials and judges, Mr. Trump was told, incorrectly, that the vice president could stop the final validation of the election of President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. in his role as president of the Senate presiding over the Electoral College count.

Mr. Pence’s counsel, Greg Jacob, researched the matter and concluded the vice president had no such authority. Prodded by Rudolph W. Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, two of his lawyers, Mr. Trump kept pressing.

Mr. Pence’s office solicited more constitutional opinions, including from Mr. Yoo, a prominent conservative at the University of California at Berkeley who served in Mr. Bush’s administration.

In the Oval Office last week, the day before the vote, Mr. Trump pushed Mr. Pence in a string of encounters, including one meeting that lasted at least an hour. John Eastman, a conservative constitutional scholar at Chapman University, was in the office and argued to Mr. Pence that he did have the power to act.

The next morning, hours before the vote, Richard Cullen, Mr. Pence’s personal lawyer, called J. Michael Luttig, a former appeals court judge revered by conservatives — and for whom Mr. Eastman had once clerked. Mr. Luttig agreed to quickly write up his opinion that the vice president had no power to change the outcome, then posted it on Twitter.

Within minutes, Mr. Pence’s staff incorporated Mr. Luttig’s reasoning, citing him by name, into a letter announcing the vice president’s decision not to try to block electors. Reached on Tuesday, Mr. Luttig said it was “the highest honor of my life” to play a role in preserving the Constitution.

After the angry call cursing Mr. Pence, Mr. Trump riled up supporters at the rally against his own vice president, saying, “I hope he doesn’t listen to the RINOs and the stupid people that he’s listening to.”

“He set Mike Pence up that day by putting it on his shoulders,” said Ryan Streeter, an adviser to Mr. Pence when he was the governor of Indiana. “That’s a pretty unprecedented thing in American politics. For a president to throw his own vice president under the bus like that and to encourage his supporters to take him on is something just unconscionable in my mind.”

Mr. Pence was already in his motorcade to the Capitol by that point. When the mob burst into the building, Secret Service agents evacuated him and his wife and children, first to his office off the floor and later to the basement. His agents urged him to leave the building, but he refused to abandon the Capitol. From there, he spoke with congressional leaders, the defense secretary and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff — but not the president.

A Republican senator later said he had never seen Mr. Pence so angry, feeling betrayed by a president for whom he had done so much. To Mr. Trump, one adviser said, the vice president had entered “Sessions territory,” referring to Jeff Sessions, the attorney general who was tortured by the president before being fired. (A vice president cannot be dismissed by a president.)

On Thursday, the day after the siege, Mr. Pence stayed away from the White House, avoiding Mr. Trump. The next day, he went in, but spent most of the day at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building next door, where he held a farewell party for his staff.

But aides said Mr. Pence did not want to become a long-term nemesis of a vindictive president, and by Monday he was back in the West Wing.

Unlike Mr. Trump, Mr. Pence plans to attend Mr. Biden’s inauguration, then expects to divide time between Washington and Indiana, possibly starting a leadership political committee, writing a book and campaigning for congressional Republicans.

But no matter what comes next, he will always be remembered for one moment. “We’re very lucky that the vice president isn’t a maniac,” said Joe Grogan, Mr. Trump’s domestic policy adviser until last year. “In many ways, I think it vindicates the decision of Mike Pence to hang in there this long.”

 

 

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12 hours ago, immamac said:

The 14th amendment and the power of impeachment/expulsion were the only 2 things ever standing a chance for removal of this filth. 

I think the 14th does Ted Cruz and Hawley in + all of the trump kids, the conviction in impeachment will get Trump out forver.

I think it’s going to take the arrest of house of rep members to get 2/3 votes to remove 

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46 minutes ago, royiv said:

The Secret Service is using some old ass Suburbans. Those things are now two body styles behind. Hopefully Biden gets an upgrade.

Secret Service Black Corvette Limos ....with hot tub....and maybe some of those cool flame decals next to the presidential seal.

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13 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

All of this "time to heal" stuff, which, indeed does have its time as the rest of the verse indicates, neglects is that there is a need to heal.  And we need to heal because that orange asshole tried to rip the country apart solely in the name of his own ego.

The time to heal can come after he faces some consequences.

You see a number of citations to the unresolved issues of the mortgage crisis as a major contributor to the general unrest and unease in the country.

I'm not big on vindictiveness, but some shit you can't just let go.

The time to heal is post-surgery. After the toxic tumor is removed. After what needs to be fixed gets fixed and the patient is sewn back up. After amends are made. You don't get to skip over the surgery part.

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2 hours ago, royiv said:

The Secret Service is using some old ass Suburbans. Those things are now two body styles behind. Hopefully Biden gets an upgrade.

That may be an old pic, but at least some of those Suburbans may be another vehicle dressed in Suburban sheetmetal.

The limo, while by appearance a Cadillac, is actually a 3/4 or 1 ton truck dressed in Caddy sheetmetal.

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Any sentence he says that starts with, "A lot of people are saying." or "You know..." 

I miss when stupid people just used the word "Like" as their verbal crutch or in place of a pregnant pause.  

When pandemic is over, I'm going to use "A lot of people are saying" to start basically all of my sentences in public just to see the response.  I'll either end up getting a lot of laughs or shot.  Either way, will make for interesting science.  

This vaccine talk.  They were mentioning it again on the house floor, that Trump brought us the vaccine like Moses bringing down the ten commandments.  I don't fault Trump in any way for the vaccine process.  It was a damn impressive feat by all involved.  But he has to stop taking credit for it exclusively with the, "Nobody else could have brought you the vaccine this quickly."  You mean, save for the ten thousand other people critically involved in its development?  If you wanna take partial credit for it, fine.  I'm okay with that.  But you, and your idiotic followers, have to understand something.  Any other President would have done the exact same thing.  You really think you get your NIH folks, Surgeon General, Task Force members, some top military brass for logistics, the CDC, and the big pharma CEO's in one room and they all basically say, "Sir, with $x in additional funding, removing these 4 regulations for drug trials, and helping coordinate efforts at the federal level...we have a vaccine within a year"  You really think some other President would have said "No, let's not do that."???  How fucking gullible are some of you. 

Not only every other Presidential candidate, but every sane adult American would have just said, "Of course, whatever you need...my people are here to help."  He acts like he is the only person it would occur to to say, "Yes, let's proceed with that detailed plan and budget you just showed me that I had nothing to do with."  I mean yeah, he gave a green light so kudos Mr. President.  But you just rubber stamped something that every other single living American would have rubber stamped.  How does he not understand that?  

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15 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Any sentence he says that starts with, "A lot of people are saying." or "You know..." 

I miss when stupid people just used the word "Like" as their verbal crutch or in place of a pregnant pause.  

When pandemic is over, I'm going to use "A lot of people are saying" to start basically all of my sentences in public just to see the response.  I'll either end up getting a lot of laughs or shot.  Either way, will make for interesting science.  

This vaccine talk.  They were mentioning it again on the house floor, that Trump brought us the vaccine like Moses bringing down the ten commandments.  I don't fault Trump in any way for the vaccine process.  It was a damn impressive feat by all involved.  But he has to stop taking credit for it exclusively with the, "Nobody else could have brought you the vaccine this quickly."  You mean, save for the ten thousand other people critically involved in its development?  If you wanna take partial credit for it, fine.  I'm okay with that.  But you, and your idiotic followers, have to understand something.  Any other President would have done the exact same thing.  You really think you get your NIH folks, Surgeon General, Task Force members, some top military brass for logistics, the CDC, and the big pharma CEO's in one room and they all basically say, "Sir, with $x in additional funding, removing these 4 regulations for drug trials, and helping coordinate efforts at the federal level...we have a vaccine within a year"  You really think some other President would have said "No, let's not do that."???  How fucking gullible are some of you. 

Not only every other Presidential candidate, but every sane adult American would have just said, "Of course, whatever you need...my people are here to help."  He acts like he is the only person it would occur to to say, "Yes, let's proceed with that detailed plan and budget you just showed me that I had nothing to do with."  I mean yeah, he gave a green light so kudos Mr. President.  But you just rubber stamped something that every other single living American would have rubber stamped.  How does he not understand that?  

 

I generally try to avoid sports metaphors, but I'm gonna break my rule this time:

Its like when they interview the MVP of the finals after the last game. The MVP always, always, always, gives credit to his teammates, coaches, fans. Always.

Even if they are the literal GOAT, they never say, "Nobody could have won this series like I did." You just don't do that. Its low class, distasteful, egotistical. Dare I say narcissistic.

 

Back to the vaccine development---

I'd even go so far as to bet that other presidents would have gotten it out faster, due to the general smog of incompetence that clings to this administration. Dotard's team couldn't organize a trip to McDonald's without fucking it up somehow.


 

 

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I'd even go so far as to bet that other presidents would have gotten it out faster, due to the general smog of incompetence that clings to this administration. Dotard's team couldn't organize a trip to McDonald's without fucking it up somehow.


 

 

They would fuck it up, they'd put Rudy in charge of it...and they'd end up at McDowell's.  And you know Donnie likes his buns with seed!

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5 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I generally try to avoid sports metaphors, but I'm gonna break my rule this time:

Its like when they interview the MVP of the finals after the last game. The MVP always, always, always, gives credit to his teammates, coaches, fans. Always.

Even if they are the literal GOAT, they never say, "Nobody could have won this series like I did." You just don't do that. Its low class, distasteful, egotistical. Dare I say narcissistic.

 

Back to the vaccine development---

I'd even go so far as to bet that other presidents would have gotten it out faster, due to the general smog of incompetence that clings to this administration. Dotard's team couldn't organize a trip to McDonald's without fucking it up somehow.


 

 

I take it you missed the NBA Finals this year?

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Yeah, it's no fun guessing what stupid shit is going through his head.  Because whatever he types always outdoes my wildest ideas.  

We'll always have covfefe and hamberders you magnificent son of a bitch.  

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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

The most amazing thing about that article about Pence is that it simply identifies John Yoo as "a legal scholar consulted by Mr. Pence's office."

Not as “a traitor to American values who gave legal cover for George W. Bush to violate the Geneva Convention and implement a policy of torture?” That’s weird. 

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7 hours ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, I knew they flew one of those with all the motorcade 'n shit.  I just didn't realize there was a separate helicopter that was different from Marine1 that could fit inside there.   I've been inside C-17's, C-5's and even an XC-99 and I still can't wrap my head around how much shit those things can carry.  I still don't believe they can even get off the group.  They're like the Donald Trump of airplanes.  They shouldn't work or be in any position of power because of how odd-looking they are, but sure enough...there they go!

You were inside the XC-99?  How old are you man?

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