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19 minutes ago, texas08 said:

Just thought of this, what if dotard is doing this to then have an excuse to flee the country (to not die in prison) since he’s being “persecuted”.

Will die a martyr and in exile in the eyes of the fucking cancer that is the GOP/Q/and the rest of the cultists.

Trump doesn’t plan ahead like that. He just throws tantrums. 

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Pence is sitting on pocket aces and is shitting his pants right now.

He needs to push Trump to resign and promise to give him a blanket pardon upon his resignation, only to use the newly restored Potus Twitter account to tell Donald to enjoy the DOJ investigation coming down on him because fuck your feelings and fuck your pardon.

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2 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

maybe Q realized that storming the capitol and killing people isn't good for business.  i saw this nonsense on Facebook.  sure, i could put it on the Q thread, but the Q thread is the same as the Republican Party thread which is the same as this thread.  it's the same nutjobs who took part or supported the attack on the capitol.

maybe, just maybe, the same traitors who took to the streets because of Q and Trump will heed this message and stay put for the next few weeks.  it helps that Trump isn't on Twitter to stoke the flames, too.

here's what i saw:

Dear Patriots,
Some of you may recognize my name. I have daily briefing with POTUS and have posted here before a handful of times as a “helper”.
What I’m about to disclose is the most important post you’ll read before the inauguration. Q will not post here again, at least not for a while. The operation is ongoing but must run silent at this point. Once we wind down you will not hear from Q again. Don’t let this worry or upset you. We are in perhaps the most critical juncture of American history. POTUS is fully aware of the gravity of this time period. We have prepared from before 2015 for this exact moment. I am not asking for faith in us. Q should have already used logic, reason, and multiple proofs to establish our credibility.
What happens this week will change history. We are asking you, for now, to stay in your homes and do NOT under any circumstances interfere with the operation. You’ll soon see things unfold that many would think impossible. POTUS is insulated and 100% safe. Our plan is almost complete. The DS has already lost. Everything you’re seeing in the MSM and on Twitter is a last-ditch attempt. Why has Kamala not yet left the senate? Where is Joe? Where is Joe really? Hunter has turned himself in.
We asked you at the beginning to prepare. Your role is crucial, and your task is to help the population deal with that is about to be revealed. Those patriots who have been here from the start will understand and recognize this directive.
Remember, it is always darkest before the dawn. Do not believe the MSM over the next week. Do not, for a single minute give them any credence. We have legally won this election and what comes next is the greatest mop up job in the history of the world.
Patriots, we thank you. We could not have gotten here without you. Now is our time. Hold the line. You will receive no further message on this channel from us until the operation is over. At that point, the entire world will know.
Thank you and God bless. Pray for us, POTUS, and the United States of America. We are in the most dangerous phase and the stakes could not be higher. Military takedowns and arrests begin this wknd and will continue forward for the next 13 days/nights. Some international raids have already started. Italy has also been found complicit in our election fraud.
Everyone will be getting emergency alerts on their phones, tv's, radios & internet. It will override all other broadcasts and could last for several hours at a time. Do not to be scared of what's coming as it is for the safety of our nation for this to unfold.
DO NOT travel to any large cities (especially Philadelphia) for the rest of the month. Military operations will be taking place in many of the major corrupt cities. People will start rioting once this intel breaks thinking Trump is a military dictator. He only has 13 days to put this dog down.
The implementation of the Insurrection Act began after the raid on the Capitol and was marked by Trump's broadcast to the people to disband and return home. This broadcast wound up being blocked, for the most part, by the media. Nevertheless, his address fulfilled the requirements to initiate the Act.
Marines and National Guard troops are being moved as needed for the riots that will start after the national release of the intel. The intel will be dropped for everyone to see and hear in loops that will be several hours long. The system was just checked by the FCC a few days ago alerting ALL media that they cannot block the flow of intel under federal regs.
Trump will be moved continuously like a chess piece from now until the 20th in order to avoid any retaliation against him and family.
Trump had to exhaust ALL other means legally before this operation could commence. He gave everyone a fair chance to come clean and they refused.

I swore today that I would quit laughing at these fucksticks.

That's the stupidest goddam thing I have ever seen.  Well actually not the stupidest, but vying for first place with some similar shit from a few weeks ago and from texags.

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55 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

They’re just tagging them with the quickest and easiest charges while they found them up. They can always be charged with more later.

^^^ That will also make sure they can't get pardoned. Slap on the fattest charges after Trump is long gone. 

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1 hour ago, Underdog said:

Italy?  Does this mean Olive Garden, Macaroni Grill and Carabas's are on high alert? 

 

Damn papists and Jesuits never give up. 

They'll have our kids speaking Latin and eating fish on Fridays in no time unless Trump and Flynn can rally the patriots, digital soldiers and keyboard Minutemen. 

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54 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

That's nice, but still, fuck banks.

 

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"One is, a holy love of country, and a willingness to make every sacrifice to its honor and safety, next a sacred regard for its Constitution and laws, with an eternal hostility and opposition to all banks." -- Sam Houston, telling Andrew Jackson what he learned from him towards the end of Jackson's life. 

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12 minutes ago, G650 said:

Well, I was betting he wouldn't be, so I'm owed the bet. It was for a case of wine actually.

Trump didn’t become the worst President ever on Inauguration Day. It took him time to claim the title. I’d say he did that when he appointed Bill Barr to AG and Barr went and lied to the American people about the conclusions in the Mueller Report before the report was released. Barr was nominated in Jan, 2019, confirmed in Feb, and mischaracterized the Mueller report in March. So I would say that Dubya was thought of as the worst President ever for more than 10 years and you lost the bet. 

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9 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Trump didn’t become the worst President ever on Inauguration Day. It took him time to claim the title. I’d say he did that when he appointed Bill Barr to AG and Barr went and lied to the American people about the conclusions in the Mueller Report before the report was released. Barr was nominated in Jan, 2019, confirmed in Feb, and mischaracterized the Mueller report in March. So I would say that Dubya was thought of as the worst President ever for more than 10 years and you lost the bet. 

W wasn't even the worst President when he left office, but the bet wasn't who was worst 10 years later, its was worst for eternity, ie. if at any point in our lives W wasn't demonstrably the worst, then I win. The fact that Trump is objectively the worst ever means I can call the bet.

 

W isn't even in the bottom 5 at any rate.

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

W wasn't even the worst President when he left office, but the bet wasn't who was worst 10 years later, its was worst for eternity, ie. if at any point in our lives W wasn't demonstrably the worst, then I win. The fact that Trump is objectively the worst ever means I can call the bet.

 

W isn't even in the bottom 5 at any rate.

Dubya was easily the worst before he left office. 

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23 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Big, strong, tears in their eyes.

 

 

 

I don’t feel at all bad for this guy.  However it’s bullshit that he’s already seeing consequences for his actions while trump, Cruz, hawley, Giuliani, and all the others that orchestrated the dolts and rabid monkeys like him into action have had zero repercussions so far when they are on video at rallies and in the Capitol giving speeches. Why haven’t the lawyers been arrested yet?  Why haven’t the senators and congressmen?  Because it would look bad?

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32 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Big, strong, tears in their eyes.

 

 

 

 

This warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart so much.

 

11 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

So does this one.

11 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Dubya was easily the worst before he left office. 

 

GWB wasn't even the worst president of my lifetime. Nixon and Carter both have that honor. You can rank Ford up there with those guys, too. There's a reason (there's three reasons, actually) that Reagan was so beloved.

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I don’t feel at all bad for this guy.  However it’s bullshit that he’s already seeing consequences for his actions while trump, Cruz, hawley, Giuliani, and all the others that orchestrated the dolts and rabid monkeys like him into action have had zero repercussions so far when they are on video at rallies and in the Capitol giving speeches. Why haven’t the lawyers been arrested yet?  Why haven’t the senators and congressmen?  Because it would look bad?

Because Trump could pardon them easier.
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As for the discussion upthread on the direction of the GOP, here's a report on an RNC meeting this Friday:

In Capital, a G.O.P. Crisis. At the R.N.C. Meeting, a Trump Celebration.
Party members at a gathering of the Republican National Committee endorsed President Trump as the man to lead the party forward, ignoring the turmoil in Washington.

AMELIA ISLAND, Fla. — In Washington, Republicans were dealing with a burgeoning crisis in their ranks, with high-profile resignations and bitter infighting over how to deal with an erratic and isolated president. But at the Republican National Committee’s winter meeting on Friday, most party members were operating in a parallel universe.

In a chandelier-adorned ballroom at the seaside Ritz-Carlton here, there was no mention of President Trump’s disruption of the coronavirus relief package or his phone call to the Georgia secretary of state demanding that he help steal the election, both of which contributed to Republicans’ losing control of the Senate.

And while the R.N.C. chair, Ronna McDaniel, condemned the attack on the Capitol, neither she nor any other speaker so much as publicly hinted at Mr. Trump’s role in inciting a mob assault on America’s seat of government.

Even as the president faces a possible second impeachment proceeding, this collective exercise in gaze aversion was not the most striking part of the meeting. More revealing was the reason for the silence from the stage: Party members, one after another, said in interviews that the president did not bear any blame for the violence at the Capitol and indicated that they wanted him to continue to play a leading role in the party.

“I surely embrace President Trump,” said Michele Fiore, the committeewoman from Nevada, where Republicans have lost two Senate races and the governorship since 2016. Ms. Fiore, who was sporting a Trump-emblazoned vest, said the president was “absolutely” a positive force in the party.

The fealty to Mr. Trump was made plain on Friday when the state chairs and the committeemen and women who make up the R.N.C.’s governing board unanimously re-elected Ms. McDaniel, Mr. Trump’s handpicked chair. They also reappointed her co-chair, Tommy Hicks, who was first appointed to his post because of his friendship with the president’s eldest son.

Mr. Trump is the first president since Herbert Hoover to preside over the loss of the White House, the House and the Senate in a single term and will be the first since Andrew Johnson to boycott his successor’s inauguration. That hasn’t yet fazed the Republican rank and file.

“This room, they’re in denial, and that’s on the record,” Bill Palatucci, a committeeman from New Jersey, said during a break in the Friday session, acknowledging the “damage done to the country” and the Republican “brand” this week.

But Mr. Palatucci was a lonely voice of dissent, at least in public.

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Privately, a group of Republican officials, mostly those from the pre-Trump establishment wing of the party, said that they were appalled by the president’s conduct and that Ms. McDaniel had been candid about the party’s difficulties behind closed doors.

These Republicans predicted with more hope than confidence that once Mr. Trump was out of office, the ardor for him in the conservative base would cool.

Yet for now, the flames still burn.

“I would love to see him go into states that have some House seats we can flip in ’22,” said Terry Lathan, the Alabama G.OP. chair, who said “absolutely not” when she was asked if Mr. Trump bore any blame for the attack on the Capitol.

When a committee member took an informal survey on whose closed-door speech on Thursday members had liked better, that of Gov. Kristi Noem of South Dakota or of Nikki R. Haley, the former United Nations ambassador, the response was clear. The party officials preferred Ms. Noem’s, because she had not criticized Mr. Trump as Ms. Haley did in her remarks, a Republican familiar with the sampling said.

Earlier in the day on Thursday, when the president briefly called into a breakfast meeting, he was greeted by applause. And when the Missouri national committeeman, Gordon Kinne, said at the breakfast that he was a supporter of the president but had been upset by his comments about the violence at the Capitol, he was met with a generally frosty response, according to another committee member in the room.

The loyalty to Mr. Trump results in part from the turnover on the committee during his term. The president’s top political lieutenants intervened to install loyalists in state and local G.O.P. conventions ahead of 2020. The goal was to prevent any party rule changes that could have made it easier to mount a primary challenge against Mr. Trump, but the end result was to leave the committee heavy with Trump devotees.

The changes also accelerated a trend that pre-dated Mr. Trump’s rise: the evolution of the committee from a body filled with canny political professionals and power brokers in their states to one dominated by dogmatic partisans well-marinated in Fox News and Facebook memes.

Perhaps more significant, the president has fostered a new wave of activism on the right — and many longstanding G.O.P. leaders fear alienating these newcomers to party politics.

“We can’t exist without the people he brought to the party — he’s changed the direction of the party,” said Paul Reynolds, the Republican committeeman from Alabama. “We’re a different party because of the people that came with him, and they make us a better party.”

Reta Hamilton, a committeewoman from Arkansas, said Mr. Trump should play “a leading part” in the G.O.P. in the future for just that reason — “to bring his voters,” she said.

Ms. Hamilton and other R.N.C. members also sought to rationalize questions about the damage to the Capitol and the images of Trump banners and Confederate flags littering the building.

“What was your reaction to Black Lives Matter looting and robbing and killing people?” she shot back brazenly before walking away.

Steve Scheffler, a committeeman from Iowa, was equally quick to invoke last summer’s at times destructive protests over racial justice and the news media’s coverage of them.

“Why doesn’t the press condemn the violence that happened in Portland and Seattle?” said Mr. Scheffler. “It’s a double standard.”

Asked if he felt there was an equivalence between the left-wing protests of 2020 and the violent attempt to subvert the election this week, he said: “Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s all bad.”

In her remarks to the committee, Ms. McDaniel, the niece of Senator Mitt Romney, thanked Mr. Trump for his faith in her and never directly acknowledged that Mr. Trump had been defeated, only referring to her frustration at “losing critical elections.”

As for the president’s own denial about his loss, she did not rebut the conspiracy theories he has pushed, and that the party’s base has echoed.

Addressing the Republican “grass roots,” she vowed to work with state legislatures to “make sure what we saw in this election never happens again.”

Ms. McDaniel went on to criticize the effort by House Democrats to withdraw gender-specific words like “wife” and “husband” from the rule book governing the chamber.

The standing ovation she received was a reminder that disdain for the left’s perceived excesses is the most animating, and unifying, force on the right. This brand of oppositional politics could help paper over Republicans’ challenges when they run as the out-of-power party next year.

Indeed, much of Ms. McDaniel’s speech was Republican red meat. There were warnings against socialism, attacks on the four liberal congresswomen known as “the squad” and boasting about the diverse class of lawmakers who helped the party gain House seats in November despite Mr. Trump’s broad unpopularity. “Candidates matter,” she said, alluding to new lawmakers.

David Bossie, one of Mr. Trump’s advisers and the Maryland committeeman, insisted that the party’s losses had been on the margins.

“You don’t have to throw out everybody when there’s nothing fundamentally wrong,” Mr. Bossie said.

A handful of committee members, however, believe more reflection is desperately needed, particularly after this week. “We’re whistling past the graveyard,” said Henry Barbour, the Mississippi committeeman, who called Mr. Trump’s conduct before the riot “totally unacceptable.”

Few of his counterparts, though, would criticize the president.

Asked if Mr. Trump was still the effective leader of the G.O.P., the Wyoming Republican chair, Frank Eathorne, said, “The way Wyoming sees it, yes.”

 

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19 minutes ago, heso said:

“This isn’t our first time arresting people that have kids.” 

Gritty about to pop out of the trash can right there. 

Fortunately law enforcement has gained lots of experience with this situation over the course of the Trump administration. 

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1 hour ago, texas08 said:

Just thought of this, what if dotard is doing this to then have an excuse to flee the country (to not die in prison) since he’s being “persecuted”.

Will die a martyr and in exile in the eyes of the fucking cancer that is the GOP/Q/and the rest of the cultists.

Flee the country, no US Secret service.  Dude isn’t going to come out of pocket for his own security.   Israel or Saudi Arabia might bankroll his exile for a bit, but he will be miserable and will wear out his welcome in weeks.  Florida is where he is going and his shit will be on blast until he dies in shame in the next two years.  

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