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9 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Malcolm Nance believes turnip absolutely plans to “annex” both Canada and Greenland, and he lays out his argument as to why he believes this and how it will go down in the gift substack. Spoiler, he is predicting a second civil war. 
 

https://malcolmnance.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-trump-is-planning?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=m83ne&triedRedirect=true

That scenario is 100% on the table.

Americans need to decide who they are loyal to -- the Republic, or the Trump regime.  Because those two interests have a real, material chance of being in a shooting war against each other sooner than anyone would like to think.

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35 minutes ago, Red Five said:

democratic rebuttal to his speech should have just been a series of fact checks

Fact checks don’t change minds anymore.  

 

46 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

People used to not need to apply critical thinking to what they were seeing in the media.  I'm sure that all of these people only watch Fox News. 

This-it’s not a popular opinion but we’re suffering from too much democracy in an information environment that’s too dispersed for most normal media consumers to critically work through and analyze every new piece of information.  
 

This fracturing of attention makes capturing any block of voter’s attention paramount, and by any means necessary.  It sort of begets a Fox News, which before it went bananas was still sensationalistic instead of going for credible.  Big media on the left are struggling with the same challenge (how to compete with social media), and are/have adopted similar strategies (for example, the NT TImes website ran nine articles in on their page the other day about “Trump bad”, and the 10th was about Dr. Pimple Popper).

All of this, of course, feeds into the distrust of institutions generally which is just fucking terrible for running a democracy.  

The biggest long-term problem is, in my opinion, the lurch from GOP to DEM every election that I’d expect from citizen unrest (because the media environment has created a “whoever is in power sucks” malaise among the slice of the electorate that decides non-gerrymandered elections).  

I don’t know what the solution is, either, aside from some kind of armistice between parties that lets them carve up power so that less partisan candidates candidates can be successful.  

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17 hours ago, Colonel Sanders said:

That shit was like the Battle of the Alamo.  And by Alamo, I mean the 2001 Texas Tech-aTm game, where Mike McKinney had to fend off Gap Kid and Harry Potter.

Victory or Shreveport!

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I guess letting a 78 year old convicted rapist with late stage syphilis brain crash the economy is worth getting rid of 1 trans swimmer. 

And three VB players!!! It adds up, right? To like 10?
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2 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Malcolm Nance believes turnip absolutely plans to “annex” both Canada and Greenland, and he lays out his argument as to why he believes this and how it will go down in the gift substack. Spoiler, he is predicting a second civil war. 
 

https://malcolmnance.substack.com/p/urgent-warning-trump-is-planning?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=m83ne&triedRedirect=true

That's fucking nuts.

And, about as likely as anything to come from this administration.  Holy fuck.

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39 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's fucking nuts.

And, about as likely as anything to come from this administration.  Holy fuck.

The similarities between Trump's new rhetoric about Canada and Putin's rhetoric about Ukraine are hard to ignore.

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2 hours ago, LCHorn said:

 

This-it’s not a popular opinion but we’re suffering from too much democracy in an information environment that’s too dispersed for most normal media consumers to critically work through and analyze every new piece of information.  
 

Yes, yes, yes, fuck yes.  The First Amendment is killing us right now because there is no check on what anyone can say.  The most outrageous lies get the most eyeballs and the most ad dollars.  Not good for election results.  We need to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine, at a minimum.  As far as a First Amendment case, at what point does calling the Jan. 6th insurrectionists false flag operatives and that Ukraine invaded Russia become a lot like yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater?

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1 minute ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Yes, yes, yes, fuck yes.  The First Amendment is killing us right now because there is no check on what anyone can say.  The most outrageous lies get the most eyeballs and the most ad dollars.  Not good for election results.  We need to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine, at a minimum.  As far as a First Amendment case, at what point does calling the Jan. 6th insurrectionists false flag operatives and that Ukraine invaded Russia become a lot like yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater?

How would social media be policed?  A Russian bot shitposting on Facebook couldn't possibly be held to the (old) Fairness Doctrine standards, could it?

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6 hours ago, speed817 said:

Just watched it this morning.....oh boy......

 

Yikes. Just incredible how their minds think, although that might not be the right word for it.

The fact check on the trans question he had for the gay guy that wouldn't answer it was that ~4700 kids used puberty blockers over that 4 year period and only .1% of the patients in that study were transgender. Meaning, the issue is so miniscule, that it is statistically irrelevant. That was Sam's point that he didn't get to finish.  

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

How would social media be policed?  A Russian bot shitposting on Facebook couldn't possibly be held to the (old) Fairness Doctrine standards, could it?

You start by forcing Social Media to police itself. Allow rampant bots and misinformation posting on our website? Massive fucking fines. Multiple transgressions? Charges against executives.

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

You start by forcing Social Media to police itself. Allow rampant bots and misinformation posting on our website? Massive fucking fines. Multiple transgressions? Charges against executives.

I'm sure Congress and the FCC will get right on that.

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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

The best definition of fascism comes from Roger Griffin, who defines it as palingenetic ultranationalism. That can sound kind of wonky though since nobody knows what palingenesis is and still sort of sounds like an ideology even though fascism isn't really ideological, so Umberto Eco's 14 traits of ur-fascism is probably the best way to explain it to most people:

 

To this, here’s some pure fascist rhetoric on Fox News.  

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7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm sure Congress and the FCC will get right on that.

Well, I'm thinking more like the changes that can be implemented and enshrined into law after the next civil war. 

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On 3/9/2025 at 4:09 PM, Satchel said:

Or it could be that there are very obvious similarities between Trumpism and Nazism. 

One wonders if the legal community in 1930s Germany was also bullied into silence?
 

Fear of Trump Has Elite Law Firms in Retreat - The Wall Street Journal.

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

 

Saw clips last night. 

 

There was no way Kamala was wining with those people. They are completely lost. I don’t know how you get those voters back. 

Someone on one of the socials said the people in these clips should be making iced lattes and doing theatre not arguing for fascism 

 

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

Electing Obama president broke us.

The rise of social media broke us more.

Russian disinformation having free reign through said social media and now actual news outlets broke us even more.

COVID broke us even more.

The result.....is that this is all that's left:

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We are hopelessly shattered.  And all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put us back together again.

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The occupation of Canada would quickly become a continent-wide, high-intensity modern war akin to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. It would rapidly devolve into a higher-intensity insurgency, which could lead to the deaths of thousands on both sides. Any operation would most likely collapse the American economy and precipitate a violent Second American Civil War.

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50 minutes ago, Pancho said:

There was no way Kamala was wining with those people. They are completely lost. I don’t know how you get those voters back. 

Someone on one of the socials said the people in these clips should be making iced lattes and doing theatre not arguing for fascism 

 

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

Concentration of wealth via the Reagan Revolution, repeal of The Fairness Doctrine, 1996 Telecommunications Act, and the internet were the biggest straws. 

Dems were tasked (due in part to their short sighted Republican Lite strategy) with a burden akin to convincing Sooners to be Horns. 

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's fucking nuts.

And, about as likely as anything to come from this administration.  Holy fuck.

Yes and with the competence of this administration they will likely cross the Guadalupe and invade Gruene then march up north to capture Canadian, TX in the panhandle.

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5 hours ago, LCHorn said:

The biggest long-term problem is, in my opinion, the lurch from GOP to DEM every election that I’d expect from citizen unrest (because the media environment has created a “whoever is in power sucks” malaise among the slice of the electorate that decides non-gerrymandered elections).  

I don’t know what the solution is, either, aside from some kind of armistice between parties that lets them carve up power so that less partisan candidates candidates can be successful.  

Ranked choice voting fixes this

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

So much this. It completely broke a TON of people. I don’t get it, but it did. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Considering its from August I'd say its real. 

Yeah, that was the point of posting it.  I didn't think it was current, FFS.

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

To this, here’s some pure fascist rhetoric on Fox News.  

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7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No idea if it's real, don't care:

May be an image of text that says 'Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump STOCK MARKETS ARE CRASHING JOBS NUMBERS ARE TERRIBLE, WE ARE HEADING TO WORLD WAR , AND WE HAVE TWO OF THE MOST INCOMPETENT "LEADERS' HISTORY. THIS IS NOT GOOD!!! IN 13k ReTruths 43.5k Likes Aug 05, 2024 at 5:12 Aug05,2024at5:12AM AM'

This is what I can't wrap my head around.  I get that if something is repeated enough times it becomes fact, but how are they not able to recognize that Fox is now telling them that what they were told was the death knell of the US just a few months ago is now great?

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2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

 

This is what I can't wrap my head around.  I get that if something is repeated enough times it becomes fact, but how are they not able to recognize that Fox is now telling them that what they were told was the death knell of the US just a few months ago is now great?

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Electing Obama president broke us.

The rise of social media broke us more.

Russian disinformation having free reign through said social media and now actual news outlets broke us even more.

COVID broke us even more.

The result.....is that this is all that's left:

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We are hopelessly shattered.  And all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put us back together again.

 

clinton led to rush limbaugh led to newt gingrich - contract with america led to rise of fox news led to .....

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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

You start by forcing Social Media to police itself. Allow rampant bots and misinformation posting on our website? Massive fucking fines. Multiple transgressions? Charges against executives.

Yep. See Brazil and X last fall. But better.

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6 hours ago, Red Five said:

Trump said the transgender mice thing during the state of the union speech. All the republicans laughed and cheered. 

I know it's not feasible, but the democratic rebuttal to his speech should have just been a series of fact checks. Probably time restrictions there though.

Fact checking does not matter. Waste of time

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49 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Ranked choice voting fixes this

Maybe?  I tend to think the electorate’s disfunction has bled into leadership rather than the other way around (not trying to both sides, this is clearly more of a GOP problem.  That said, the Dems went after a big tent and the sub-groups aren’t aligned anymore).  
 

I do think Trump is almost the perfect embodiment and has the resume for an electorate addicted to the sugar high of trolling and outrage.  My one source of hope over the short-term is no one else seems able to corral his constituency.  

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

I also think COVID fucked up this country more than the country cares to or wants to admit

You’re not wrong.

 

Unfortunately, we will collectively deal with the trauma very slowly. This country has little real introspection. The bitchass, insecure insistence on American Exceptionalism shields critical thought, as does the hobbled public education system. It’s a real pickle. 

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Something else to consider is that we are on year 10 of Trump. 10 years of giving Americans a reason to let their worst selves out. How old were those 20 people when Trump was running for the first time? Dude has changed our country, in horrific ways.

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Here’s another one
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I can’t find it now but he DEFINITELY posted that if the Dow drops 1,000 in a week, the sitting President should be IMPEACHED.
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3 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Yikes. Just incredible how their minds think, although that might not be the right word for it.

The fact check on the trans question he had for the gay guy that wouldn't answer it was that ~4700 kids used puberty blockers over that 4 year period and only .1% of the patients in that study were transgender. Meaning, the issue is so miniscule, that it is statistically irrelevant. That was Sam's point that he didn't get to finish.  

So hard to listen to. I did see a couple of common threads or mindsets:

1. Every person should be responsible for themselves and no other person should be responsible for any other.  This goes to the huge problem conservatives have with the government using their tax dollars to help other people.

2. Religion is required to form a moral foundation.

I also saw a lot of opinions that were based on provably false premises.  It's like if a person was presented with two alternatives, one being true and the other being false, but what the person wanted to believe, they would go with the false one every time.

None of this is surprising or different from what most of us already know. Seeing this just reinforced it.

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10 minutes ago, scottsins said:

I can’t find it now but he DEFINITELY posted that if the Dow drops 1,000 in a week, the sitting President should be IMPEACHED.

well i hope you're certain. because if you make one false claim then everything anyone has ever said about anything is definitely a lie.

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