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Trumpspeak - No worry about shortages of prescription drugs from China.

Reality - 

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply "Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

Drugs whose key ingredients are manufactured in China include medicines for blood pressure medicine, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, epilepsy and depression, Gibson says.

"We can't make penicillin anymore," said Gibson. "The last penicillin plant in the United States closed in 2004."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/u-s-officials-worried-about-chinese-control-american-drug-supply-n1052376

 

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1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

Fuck me for being a pessimist but this all has a post WW1 feel to me.  Pandemic, market collapse, demagogues everywhere, what am I missing?

Post-WWI to Great Depression Period. That period included the Roaring 20's and ended with the darkest moment in American and world history

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21 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Trumpspeak - No worry about shortages of prescription drugs from China.

Reality - 

 

"We can't make penicillin anymore," said Gibson. "The last penicillin plant in the United States closed in 2004."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/u-s-officials-worried-about-chinese-control-american-drug-supply-n1052376

 

This seems bad.

 

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23 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Post-WWI to Great Depression Period. That period included the Roaring 20's and ended with the darkest moment in American and world history

Oh, I have a feeling we'll be able to cram all of those into a short period of time.  A real stewpot of a booming economy, collapsing economy, rising racism/xenophobia, and a pandemic.  Mmmm.....tastes like the end of the world.  And we've got literally the least fit president in US history at the wheel.

Perfect.

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1 hour ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Oh no, Donald has not and never will come close to sniffing the jock of our shittiest President Harding or behaving Presidential in any way.

I thought Mnuchin did a good job, probably because the bar is so low.

mnuchin is probably a pretty competent person, even if he's an evil clone of john oliver. 

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2 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

too much downside financial risk to invest in a pandemic. sounds like something the FREE MARKET CAN SOLVE!

 

#GREATESTHEALTHCARESYSTEMINTHEWOLRDDDDDD

How many LLCs you think Kushner registered in the past few weeks to try and make a buck off this? 

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6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Honestly, I think if this continues, it might be the best case for the 25th amendment we've seen.  Still don't think it will happen, but god damn it's painful watching him flounder.

 

Have you even bid on the upcoming 4% gain stock market graph autopgraph for today yet?

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Most small to medium sized businesses' commercial property policies contain a virus exclusion to their business disruption policies, leaving them uninsured for force majeure events like the municipal closures on bars, gyms, and restaurants.  NJ legislators have introduced a bill to require insurers to pay business interruption and spread the cost across the market.  Does Congress or Texas Legislature step in to deal with this?  

If we're going to bail out the airlines what do we do about everyone on main street?  

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2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Most small to medium sized businesses' commercial property policies contain a virus exclusion to their business disruption policies, leaving them uninsured for force majeure events like the municipal closures on bars, gyms, and restaurants.  NJ legislators have introduced a bill to require insurers to pay business interruption and spread the cost across the market.  Does Congress or Texas Legislature step in to deal with this?  

If we're going to bail out the airlines what do we do about everyone on main street?  

does the post two up not start to address this?

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5 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Most small to medium sized businesses' commercial property policies contain a virus exclusion to their business disruption policies, leaving them uninsured for force majeure events like the municipal closures on bars, gyms, and restaurants.  NJ legislators have introduced a bill to require insurers to pay business interruption and spread the cost across the market.  Does Congress or Texas Legislature step in to deal with this?  

If we're going to bail out the airlines what do we do about everyone on main street?  

We're going to have to radically restructure a shitload of mechanisms.  From infrastructure to unemployment to insurance coverages to healthcare systems to...keep going.  This situation is revealing gaping holes in our economic and social systems.  If we want to have a society and economy that are sustainable in the long term, we're going to have to start taking better fucking care of them instead of cutting them to the bone/bleeding them dry.

It's why farmers have always set aside a percentage of their harvest as seed for next year.  Sure, it limits short-term profitability, but it provides long-term viability.  We need to start thinking of the big picture and long term, and set our institutions up accordingly.

When this is over, there is going to be a period of massive Reconstruction of our economy and institutions.  I pray that we end up with some leadership that's up to the job.

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3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Does any insurance actually cover anything? 

Not if the insurance company gets a say.  I'm dealing with a denied claim for a client right now that is ludicrous....but they're counting on the insured not having the time or resources to fight.  The numbers are in their favor.  Fuck over 100 policy holders, you get away with it 99 times.  That's money in the bank.

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure, it limits short-term profitability, but it provides long-term viability.  We need to start thinking of the big picture and long term, and set our institutions up accordingly.

This is something fully lost on the Boomers and everyone younger.  We have been the grasshopper for far too long.

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11 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Most small to medium sized businesses' commercial property policies contain a virus exclusion to their business disruption policies, leaving them uninsured for force majeure events like the municipal closures on bars, gyms, and restaurants.

FACTS.

Small and medium sized businesses are not part of the exclusive tOo bIG t00 Fa1L club. 🤡

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

We're going to have to radically restructure a shitload of mechanisms.  From infrastructure to unemployment to insurance coverages to healthcare systems to...keep going.  This situation is revealing gaping holes in our economic and social systems.  If we want to have a society and economy that are sustainable in the long term, we're going to have to start taking better fucking care of them instead of cutting them to the bone/bleeding them dry.

It's why farmers have always set aside a percentage of their harvest as seed for next year.  Sure, it limits short-term profitability, but it provides long-term viability.  We need to start thinking of the big picture and long term, and set our institutions up accordingly.

When this is over, there is going to be a period of massive Reconstruction of our economy and institutions.  I pray that we end up with some leadership that's up to the job.

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4 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

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Hey, "never let a crisis go to waste," right?  We are entering a period of chaos.  Time to take the fucking reins and make shit happen.  The people are going to be much more amenable to the shit they were stupidly calling "socialism" a few weeks ago.  Maybe the common good actually fucking matters, you know?

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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

We're going to have to radically restructure a shitload of mechanisms.  From infrastructure to unemployment to insurance coverages to healthcare systems to...keep going.  This situation is revealing gaping holes in our economic and social systems.  If we want to have a society and economy that are sustainable in the long term, we're going to have to start taking better fucking care of them instead of cutting them to the bone/bleeding them dry.

It's why farmers have always set aside a percentage of their harvest as seed for next year.  Sure, it limits short-term profitability, but it provides long-term viability.  We need to start thinking of the big picture and long term, and set our institutions up accordingly.

When this is over, there is going to be a period of massive Reconstruction of our economy and institutions.  I pray that we end up with some leadership that's up to the job.

 

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Hey, "never let a crisis go to waste," right?  We are entering a period of chaos.  Time to take the fucking reins and make shit happen.  The people are going to be much more amenable to the shit they were stupidly calling "socialism" a few weeks ago.  Maybe the common good actually fucking matters, you know?

"Lead on McDuff." I am ready, willing and able. 

You will first encounter this- "Not the time for big changes; we need to save the world from economic collapse by bailing out those who created this asset bubble that is collapsing." 🤡

I will be here on the ledge keeping your spot warm. 

 

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13 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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Why do we compare tests per capita* but don't compare cases per capita?  We chose the most negative ways to compare.  Not saying either looks great, but lets be apples to apples.

*except China, which only uses a province as total population.

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