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18 hours ago, bluto said:

Fox News has now entered the “if they had something they’d have leaked it, so clearly they didn’t get anything” phase

Which is funny because Trump is saying they planted evidence.  I think he knows exactly what they have and he doesn't like it one bit.

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2 hours ago, purplepride95 said:

 

Stuff like this is why I'll never forgive the gop. It's one thing for a bunch of yokels to believe and spout nonsense. Even a network that works in truthiness is bad but propaganda has been around since the beginning of time. But to have elected officials in high office, including the fucking minority leader of the House of Representatives stoking flames through outright lies and making outrageous claims about political law enforcement, encouraging violence, and justifying a literal attack on the capitol and a free and fair election, I just cannot tolerate that, and will never forget. Not that it matters much anymore. This cannot be reversed. I still truly believe this country will cease to exist as a nation within the next 20-30 years, max.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

Which is funny because Trump is saying they planted evidence.  I think he knows exactly what they have and he doesn't like it one bit.

And it's pretty obvious what he had he was planning to sell. If it was incriminating evidence it would be in the MAL waste lines right now. If more things like this start happening to him I'm putting my money on stroke out before 2024. At some point his body is going to quit dealing with the stress.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

I’m sure there is potential legal jumbo jumbo that could muddy the waters wrt a president and handling of classified data. It’s another one of things never fully codified because the expectation is we would never elect someone that would push the issue. I do know on its face, that a private residence is never, ever allowed to house or store classified data. You would think MAL went through some modifications during his presidency to satisfy some of those requirements so he could operate while on site, but it doesn’t sound permanent with the disclosure about adding a hasp and padlock to a basement door. That’s nowhere near good enough even for the lowest level of classification. Top level stuff requires a SCIF, period. Those have their own manual wrt construction and materials. There are also guard requirements, forms, alarms, etc that are all required for even the lower level stuff. I doubt they were meeting those so again, on its face, this should be pretty simple to prove against anyone that isn’t a president. 

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Even if a president can declassify documents, they still have to go through the official process, right?  And if they didn’t, they are still classified. Right?  He can’t just announce a document or box of documents as declassified and have it be so…right?  

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12 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Which is funny because Trump is saying they planted evidence.  I think he knows exactly what they have and he doesn't like it one bit.

 

cops only plant evidence on non whites, he's safe 

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Even if a president can declassify documents, they still have to go through the official process, right?  And if they didn’t, they are still classified. Right?  He can’t just announce a document or box of documents as declassified and have it be so…right?  

While he was president, he actually could pretty much do that. He was one of the originators of classification as president and as such, could unilaterally classify and declassify things if so desired. However, you still have to actually SAY that you've declassified it to make it so

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


Or, “I only value constitutional protections when it directly affects me.” A sentiment which should invalidate anyone from serving public office. A tragic, yet predictable, claim from the disgraced ex-president.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Even if a president can declassify documents, they still have to go through the official process, right?  And if they didn’t, they are still classified. Right?  He can’t just announce a document or box of documents as declassified and have it be so…right?  

I think we cleared that up a few pages back: https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/18341-a-story-about-a-pathetic-mans-downfall/?do=findComment&comment=4517937

 

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9 minutes ago, royiv said:

@clapclapclap

You've been pretty quiet since your recent crusade for decorum. Thought you might be concerned about what's happening to liberal members of Congress.

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22 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Even if a president can declassify documents, they still have to go through the official process, right?  And if they didn’t, they are still classified. Right?  He can’t just announce a document or box of documents as declassified and have it be so…right?  

There would need to be a paper trail showing those documents were declassified, otherwise no one could know that it was downgraded. You can’t just stamp over the secret marking and call it good. Another complication is you can have have classification by compilation, so even unclassified information can become classified if it’s put together with other specific unclassified information. That’s why it’s best to leave all this shit in secure storage so you don’t have to sweat it. Putting it in banker boxes, shipping it in a uhaul, and storing it in a basement just opens you up to all kinds of problems. 

Posted
33 minutes ago, Red Five said:

A former President is claiming the FBI planted evidence on him while they searched his home. And no one is even remotely surprised.

And nearly half this country would still vote for him if the 2024 presidential election were to be held tomorrow.

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2 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:
11 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:
"Fuck 'em-- let 'em froth."
I believe me and this fellow just might be kin.

When Texas football starts kicking ass again, "fuck 'em, let 'em froth" should definitely be surly motto worthy.

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People keep asking if he can declassify the information without process, but I think it's pretty likely that these documents were only classified to cover his ass in the first place. He probably only took them so Biden wouldn't read them and declassify them.

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11 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

If Rand Paul is chirping in, this whole ordeal is Russian related and Paul got orders from Moscow to pump misinformation 

 

 

Hey Rand, here's a pre-1965 silver quarter, call someone who cares.

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5 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

skip that article if you are short on time - there is nothing in there about what he had - yes an informer told the fbi what he had - but there is zero discussion of that issue beyond that statement - the informer told the fbi what he had and where it was (a personal safe in a specific room) - everything else in the article is scenery

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Seeing all these cockroaches scamper as the lights start shining at the truth is pretty fucking satisfying.

Except for we have no idea if there is Raid in the cabinet or not.

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23 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

If Rand Paul is chirping in, this whole ordeal is Russian related and Paul got orders from Moscow to pump misinformation 

 

 

Rand Paul: "What's in the box?"

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If nothing else happens with this, Dan Rather is crushing it on Twitter.

Trump is worried about what they have - that's how I'm interpreting the "planting of evidence" comment. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, TXSG8R said:

What are the chances someone in the USSS was disgusted by the missing texts and top cover for Trump and decided to expose shit at MAL in an effort to clean their own house?

i remember watching moving day and the boxes piling up on the driveway on jan 19th

complete amateurs

because the fuckers wouldn't cooperate with the transition team, of course they set in motion an instantaneous hoovering audit to identify every missing post-it note.  like aggy, too stupid to unfuck their own demise in advance.

the specials confirm that Roe may boomerang on their ass and we could get 60.  in my book, the ledge is widening.

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i've decided that the game is now this: if he runs, they indict him; he's running out of runway, and they've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what they do, the 37% and fox are post-truth, and when you don't have to account for that in your force projection analysis, it really puts dotard in to an end-game scenario.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Trump is worried about what they have - that's how I'm interpreting the "planting of evidence" comment. 

*what he knows they have. He’s admitting they recovered evidence of his crimes but his defense is just that they planted it. In front of secret service and one of his attorneys…

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2 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i remember watching moving day and the boxes piling up on the driveway on jan 19th

complete amateurs

because the fuckers wouldn't cooperate with the transition team, of course they set in motion an instantaneous hoovering audit to identify every missing post-it note.  like aggy, too stupid to unfuck their own demise in advance.

the specials confirm that Roe may boomerang on their ass and we could get 60.  in my book, the ledge is widening.

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i've decided that the game is now this: if he runs, they indict him; he's running out of runway, and they've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what they do, the 37% and fox are post-truth, and when you don't have to account for that in your force projection analysis, it really puts dotard in to an end-game scenario.

I’m also wondering if this is the establishment Rs heading off the inevitable Desantis Trump poo flinging in public if they both run.  Charge Trump, settle for no prison time but removing his ability to run for office, all the shitheads win. It gives the orange fuck an off ramp where he doesn’t run because deep state but keeps the base spooled up. 

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4 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

If I had to pick a snitch, that would provide maximum hilarity, I'd go with Ivanka followed by Melania.   Ivana would be great too, especially if it was a day or 2 before her passing.   

Ivanka is carrying the guilt of the most scandalous incestuous relationship since mackenzie phillips

she can't do her $100-million-advance book unveiling on the hens until her dad is done and fallen

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Posted
1 hour ago, C-Man said:

This guy's rants are always pretty good. This might be the best one yet.

"These people are immune to irony and allergic to self-awareness."

"Some people on our side are like, 'I don't know if we should antagonize these people -- it might rile them up even further and motivate them to rally behind Trump even more.' That's like worrying about motivating a monkey to throw its own shit even more. Pretty sure they're gonna do it. OK? They're default state is 'riled up.' "

this

very much my current ledge position

there is nothing to lose by applying the alien probe to dotard

Posted
13 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

*what he knows they have. He’s admitting they recovered evidence of his crimes but his defense is just that they planted it. In front of secret service and one of his attorneys…

They’ve pivoted to “nobody was allowed in the house while they executed the warrant“

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Posted
Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

They’ve pivoted to “nobody was allowed in the house while they executed the warrant“

That story will change too until he’s under oath. Then it will be more taking the 5th

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Posted

You would think all of the ragey deplorables would want to see the warrant. To, you know, know why the FBI was there in the first place. But no. Straight to “kill him!!”.

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Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

I’m also wondering if this is the establishment Rs heading off the inevitable Desantis Trump poo flinging in public if they both run.  Charge Trump, settle for no prison time but removing his ability to run for office, all the shitheads win. It gives the orange fuck an off ramp where he doesn’t run because deep state but keeps the base spooled up. 

I keep seeing people say remove his ability to run for office but can that even be done legally? Who would have to do it, congress?

Because even if he's convicted of a felony and in prison he can still legally run for office. And I doubt it's legal for any law enforcement to make removing one's ability to run for office a bargaining chip in a plea agreement. 

At this point it seems America is going to have to pull up her big girl panties and save herself from herself. By just having enough people disgusted with these traitors to not vote for them. 

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