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1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Again I will ask the question:

What has changed?? The status quo is exactly the same as it was a few days ago. What did we accomplish here? A show of force that everyone knew we were capable of already?

Knocking out Iran’s hope of a nuclear weapon?  I mean if this is it and it set back their progress by many years and weakens the Ayatollah’s power it looks like a win.  Still have to see how it shakes out but sometimes you can be ok with an outcome even if it wasn’t run by your side.  

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The next big thing to follow in the near future is does SA normalize relations with Israel and sign on to the Abraham Accords. Many argue that is what ultimately set this entire destructive set of events in motion by Iran and it's proxies. The other piece would be how does Qatar leverage being the peacemaker in this scenario. I doubt they are not going to let this fade without gaining some sort of benefit. Also see what happens with the Iranian proxies after this "12 day" war. There is going to be some serious power vacuum issues going on within these proxy groups when Iran can no longer provide the funding or arms that they need to hold sway in their own local regions. There are a lot of people who have not acted locally due to fear based upon the projection of power from Iran. Without it, many old grudges can finally be settled. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Aren’t you the scumbag that posts pictures of you fucking your wife on this website?

What the fuck is the problem with that, exactly?

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15 minutes ago, Steel Shank said:

I certainly can't speak for everyone, but it is my opinion and appreciation (as a known cocksman) that @Hank_Hill can post pictures of his lovely wife (tips hat) as he sees fit.

Whatever it takes for peace in the Middle East 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

So much for the ceasefire 

 

I think there are like 2ish hours left before it takes effect... Do you really think Iran wasn't going to try and get in a parting shot?

Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Knocking out Iran’s hope of a nuclear weapon?  I mean if this is it and it set back their progress by many years and weakens the Ayatollah’s power it looks like a win.  Still have to see how it shakes out but sometimes you can be ok with an outcome even if it wasn’t run by your side.  

Did we actually do any of that? It doesn't seem like Iran lost their HEU stockpile. Did we need to do what we did to set back their progress and weaken the Ayatollah's power (TBD on that)? Seems like reinstating the JCPOA would likely have accomplished the exact same thing without putting American lives (potentially, of course, seems like a low chance for now) at risk.

e: FWIW I'm still pissed that Biden didn't do that so it's not even just a criticism of Trump.

Did we really need to commit an act of war to functionally end up with the exact same status quo we had before? I'm skeptical.

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Just now, Laxtonto said:

I think there are like 2ish hours left before it takes effect... Do you really think Iran wasn't going to try and get in a parting shot?

Not saying they’re doing it here and are probably not, but the warnings of attacks provided us and Israel in April make the regime look utterly unfit to lead.  Any Iranian war hawk in the know should be pissed about it, and their population will find out when their internet is back up and running. Their people aren’t brainwashed like the Norks. What an embarrassment. They are impotent and cowardly. 

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1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

Did we actually do any of that? It doesn't seem like Iran lost their HEU stockpile. Did we need to do what we did to set back their progress and weaken the Ayatollah's power (TBD on that)? Seems like reinstating the JCPOA would likely have accomplished the exact same thing without putting American lives (potentially, of course, seems like a low chance for now) at risk.

e: FWIW I'm still pissed that Biden didn't do that so it's not even just a criticism of Trump.

Did we really need to commit an act of war to functionally end up with the exact same status quo we had before? I'm skeptical.

All fair questions and like with most things, time will tell. I'm especially curious to see whomever reports the most factual, assured, audited report of the real effects and destruction of the bombing. That will determine for me if all this squeeze was worth any juice.

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Just now, Rex Kramer said:

Not saying they’re doing it here and are probably not, but the warnings of attacks provided us and Israel in April make the regime look utterly unfit to lead.  Any Iranian war hawk in the know should be pissed about it, and their population will find out when their internet is back up and running. Their people aren’t brainwashed like the Norks. What an embarrassment. They are impotent and cowardly. 

It looks that way to us, yeah, but who knows how the message is being warped right now.

But I agree, Iranians are highly educated and most don't like the Ayatollah so I'm holding out hope he gets deposed from within.

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1 minute ago, Vegas64 said:

I'm especially curious to see whomever reports the most factual, assured, audited report of the real effects and destruction of the bombing.

This is the kicker! It's very difficult to trust anything out of Iran, the US, or Israel so hopefully other parties are gathering data.

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Posted
Just now, Brian Fantana said:

It looks that way to us, yeah, but who knows how the message is being warped right now.

But I agree, Iranians are highly educated and most don't like the Ayatollah so I'm holding out hope he gets deposed from within.

The message cannot be warped enough to convince more than 20% of their people. They’ve been globally cucked twice in the last 3 months. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

Aren’t you the scumbag that posts pictures of you fucking your wife on this website?

Posts like this are how we know the terrorists have won. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Gidnik said:
i am so sick of all of this talk about how wrong it was to bomb iran and how it puts everyone at risk. This was the best opportunity there may ever be to eliminate as much of irans nuclear program as possible with as little(relatively) loss of life as possible. every president since jimmy carter has said that iran cannot have nukes. every fucking one. and now when trump does it everyone loses their mind. now i see people with iranian flags on twitter and facebook and instagram like theyre not running around poking womens eyes out for letting their hair show or murding a girl because she didnt wear a hijab. get the fuck out of here. There is a lot to criticize trump for but this is not fucking it. everyone should be congratulating him for doing it.

Do you know where you are?

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Posted
3 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

lol what’s the correlation here? You’ve tried to use this against me before. Keep recycling buddy. 

Show some compassion. He got left out of granddaddy’s will

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Posted (edited)

Reports of 3 dead, and 22 injured. Could be Iran just wanting the last word before ceasefire deadline, who fucking knows. 

 

EDIT: This doesn't seem good 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, burnt beanz said:

I guess to summarize,

Iran’s nuclear program suffered at minimum a severe setback. It may never recover. Everyone around the world wanted that. We delivered it. That’s pretty huge. 
 

We got to display again the supremacy of our military technology. 
 

When it came to nut cutting time all Russia or China did to help their ally was offer words denouncing the American actions. 
 

We managed to avoid further involvement. 
 

This all seems like a big W for USA, big L for Iran. Also significant Ls for Russia and China. The odds of any short to medium term Taiwan shenanigans went way down imo. This should all be celebrated here. 
 

Well played. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

You mean illegal aliens and potential terrorists? 
 

Yeah I don’t give a fuck.

I bet everyone's a potential terrorist if you squint hard enough.

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